New Dynafit Freeride Binding - Beast 16

[mud]

Well sign me up for one then bitches!

[LeeLau]

definitely a new mount pattern in the toe. looks like the new heel piece attaches to stock boots via the screwed in metal piece of the heel? Should mean old boots can be retrofitted without redesign, right?

I think this also begs the question: what's going to break first on this binding?

Correct. Any boots where u can.unscrew old fitting can be retrofitted. Boots with cast fittings are SOL. So another reason to burn your old Factors

[Hugh Conway]

Anyone else worried about the heel spring icing up??

that and snow packing in the lifters.

I guess a limited release also allows containment of problems (if there are such a thing) unlike the unlimited release of previous Dynafit bindings with "issues". Still $1k to be a guinea pig? Hope that price comes down.

[LeeLau]

Well sign me up for one then bitches!

Thats the spirit

[SB]

How about a picture of the toe piece open?

Does the toe lockout for touring like what we are used to?

[GeezerSteve]

Dynafit ought to ASAP get a pair of those to a 250 lb. 50+ touring days per season oldtimer tourist

[LeeLau]

How about a picture of the toe piece open?

Does the toe lockout for touring like what we are used to?

Yah. Entry is the same way. Pincers hinge open and clamp from side. Pivot mech is obviously different from pincer mech which is just those short metal levers

[Skirotica]

There are enough gear masturbators who will pay for latest greatest unobtanium. How to put a value on lift line cred and biggest dildo in apres placing?

BIggest dildo?! I could swing my wank around all over the east coast!

[LeeLau]

Dynafit ought to ASAP get a pair of those to a 250 lb. 50+ touring days per season oldtimer tourist

Dude u will ski them w TLT5s then the colours will clash

[bean]

Not if Dynafit also supplies him with a pair of TLT6s for testing.

[LeeLau]

that and snow packing in the lifters.

I guess a limited release also allows containment of problems (if there are such a thing) unlike the unlimited release of previous Dynafit bindings with "issues". Still $1k to be a guinea pig? Hope that price comes down.

You know and I know never to buy first gen anything. That price has to drop. I'd imagine features will migrate to lower DIN tech1.0 offerings too

[bobsdesk]

I guess I don't get the issue with the $1,000 price tag. That's a shocking amount for a binding and maybe the shock value is the issue itself.

Current Radicals cost $550, others 400ish. The new binding appears to eliminate the need for a second alpine set up (The Beast will at least be more resort friendly than the radicals, which do fine).

So...you have one set up and drop $1,000 on one pair of bindings instead of what 800 or 900 on two pairs?

[XXX-er]

Is that 935 gram weight claim valid lee?

[skiitsbetter]

cool to see the next progression in touring bindings and what that will allow people to do. I'll expect nothing less than balls out zesty charging by the pilots of this binding. Huuuuuuuuuuuuck itttttttt

[GeezerSteve]

Lee, I've also got a pair of One PX

The Beast will at least be more resort friendly than [all other tech bindings]

. . . assuming the claim of significantly increased elasticity is accurate.

[theetruscan]

The Beast 16 is available this coming winter in a limited run of 2,500 bindings, all individually numbered and delivered worldwide.

In other words: “Limitless Skiing”.

Something about a "limited run" of "limitless skiing" sounds strange.

[Chugachjed]

Well that's just uglier than anything. Looks like it might propel you into the future.

[jondrums]

Anyone with info on how to get on the list pm me. This needs a paper template, insert screw kit, a swap plate, and most importantly to be skied by me. Asap.

[Jethro]

I was really hoping any new heavy duty Dynafit binding would use a standard alpine heel. That way alpine makers could mould in a Dynafit toe insert in any boot and we would have a large choice of boots. The claw over the pins on the binding and the steel re-inforcing of the boot seem like a half assed solution to Dynafit's inelasticity to me

[matt]

Hard to tell but does this not have a flat tour mode? Just the first (dark grey) riser?

[Jethro]

Will we be locked into a choice of Dynafit boots only due to new Patents? Any word on whether or not Dynafit will be letting other boot makers use their new system?

[reynolds.trailrun]

First question I have, is the DIN of the toe adjustable or is it like the tlt models with some preset equivalent in ski mode?

And I have to agree with some others, it looks ugly as hell, at least the heel piece looks like shit.

[Lindahl]

Good for the big guys, I guess, but for $1000, I'll pass. At 165lbs, I picked up a pair of speed radicals for 360$ this year to see how far I can push em. Toes unlocked, I've been sending 20'-30' cliffs at speed, and a few 10-15' to hardpack. Quite a bit of mogul days too, including gs-style-skip-a-few. Pretty impressed so far. I think most would be surprised what the 'originals' are capable of, if they actually ever gave them a shot.

Is the 923g weight per pair, or per binding? Pretty impressive weight if per pair.

[Hugh Conway]

I guess I don't get the issue with the $1,000 price tag. That's a shocking amount for a binding and maybe the shock value is the issue itself.

Current Radicals cost $550, others 400ish. The new binding appears to eliminate the need for a second alpine set up (The Beast will at least be more resort friendly than the radicals, which do fine).

So...you have one set up and drop $1,000 on one pair of bindings instead of what 800 or 900 on two pairs?

If you have just one setup (or one class of binding) and are interested in the increased elasticity it's a $400 upgrade. don't care if the heels ugly, I never look at my heel skiing.

[GeezerSteve]

Hard to tell but does this not have a flat tour mode?

Always a good question. Looks like it does not, although eyeballing the pics suggests that the lowest climbing bar might put the flattest touring ramp delta around 20mm?????, i.e., not that much different than flat Vert or Radical ST/FT. Not the sort of binding that would be used much for tours with long flat stretches, where the Speed Classic will continue be the tits. Also, the huge fore-aft touring ROM of TLT5, One series and Maestrales makes a flat touring mode a bit less necessary.