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  1. #376
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    A couple of weeks ago I rode up the lift with a couple who were talking about skiing from the top of the gondola, off the back and down to tamarack lodge. I was hoping someone here could answer a couple of questions for me. It sounds like there are a decent number of people who ski that way, but I don't want to do anything stupid. How hard is it to get lost going that way? Is it worth it, or is it mostly a long traverse? I realize it's backcountry, so not patrolled, but I don't know much about the pitch. Is avalanche danger pretty high? Would I be an idiot for going that way if I didn't have a beacon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tavis View Post
    Would I be an idiot for going that way if I didn't have a beacon?
    Yes



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  3. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by tavis View Post
    A couple of weeks ago I rode up the lift with a couple who were talking about skiing from the top of the gondola, off the back and down to tamarack lodge. I was hoping someone here could answer a couple of questions for me. It sounds like there are a decent number of people who ski that way, but I don't want to do anything stupid. How hard is it to get lost going that way? Is it worth it, or is it mostly a long traverse? I realize it's backcountry, so not patrolled, but I don't know much about the pitch. Is avalanche danger pretty high? Would I be an idiot for going that way if I didn't have a beacon?
    plenty of info out there if you search the web and ONLY ski hole in the wall so everything else stays fresh

  4. #379
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    Yes it is backcountry and not controlled. Yes it can slide and does slide, yes it is mostly traversing, but there are a few shots to hit. Yes you are and idiot to go without proper gear, backcountry knowledge or solo. Yes people do it all the time and live, but you may be the one who doesn't.

    Is it worth it? Not really. Hole in the wall is a fun novelty, but not much more. It is access to other BC, which is worth the effort if you have the gear, et al.

    I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...
    iscariot

  5. #380
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    I think the question should be, why would you want to go out of bounds without a beacon and knowledgeable partner just in case it does slide? Even if it's a 1% chance, I know what my answer would be.

  6. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by trex_9 View Post
    plenty of info out there if you search the web and ONLY ski hole in the wall so everything else stays fresh
    ah. I was trying to find info, but didn't quite know what to search for. "Hole in the Wall" is the trick. As for the beacon/avi danger, I didn't know how steep it was back there. Knowing that there are some steep sections means i'm not going without a partner and gear, but that's why I asked. For all I knew, the entire thing was a 20 degree slope and slides aren't much of an issue.

  7. #382
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    ^ Google Maps terrain view, and other online topo resources, gets you 1/2 way there: count topo lines and do the slope angle trigonometry for yourself. That said, micro avalanche terrain (not visible on a topo map) can kill you, but I think that you were looking for overall slope angle information. If you were planning on going out of bounds, solo or not, you'd want to have the topo map burned into your head ... steep or not. Lest we hear about a SAR call from way out at Reds Meadow or something ...
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  8. #383
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    soooooooo, what fell outta this last little system in the 395???

  9. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimpy View Post
    soooooooo, what fell outta this last little system in the 395???
    6-10 inches of blower on top of solid ice, it was super fun though.

    Met up with whyturn for some storm skiing, good times were had by all.





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  10. #385
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    Good times for sure. Cool crew, good snow and way Better than the office
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35

    2021/2022 (13/15)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWhore7 View Post
    6-10 inches of blower on top of solid ice, it was super fun though.

    Met up with whyturn for some storm skiing, good times were had by all.





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  12. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermodel159 View Post
    PWhore- Where are you driving up from?
    ^ no driving this year, livin the dream in June Lake ^


    Yesterday in June....





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  13. #388
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    Is anybody besides you and Whyturn getting any of this goodness?

    I am off to CO tomorrow, so let's hope they are getting some. It has been a weird year for me. No east side trips for me since Dec, but hitting my fourth state this year for skiing.

    I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...
    iscariot

  14. #389
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    Oh yes, im getting plenty.
    surviving in the city, powered by wellbutrin

  15. #390
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    ^^^^^^^^^^pictures or it did not happen.

    June looks sweet, damn I miss that place
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35

    2021/2022 (13/15)

  16. #391
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    Circle of chutes was on the agenda today. PW7 and I decided that a two for one special was in order. Knee deep powder up high, boot high down low, not bad for the lack of snow the last 6 weeks or so. Heres how it went down

    Oh man back on the skin track


    Yeah its about to get real


    PW7 dropping in


    Getting Deep





    Last turns out of the chute



    Slayed!


    Devils slide going down



    Super fun times, now lets have a refresh.

  17. #392
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    booom!!! nailed it

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    Here is my version of what happened yesterday in June lake. And hkyfsh, search jong.
    Thanx gimpy for all the beta...













    "In a perfect world I'd have all 10 fingers on my left hand, so I could just use my right hand for punching."

  19. #394
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    The Eastside thread is dying along with the snow pack. ULLR please....





    ^^ Today off the scenic loop in Mammoth ^^
    "In a perfect world I'd have all 10 fingers on my left hand, so I could just use my right hand for punching."

  20. #395
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    Still really fun out there (with the right attitude lol) exploring random little stuff. Would be nice to get some real storms though (knock on wood). In the meantime, gotta make the 'magic' happen somehow.





    I'll be the hyena, you'll see.

  21. #396
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    Hi Mammoth locals, I have some friends coming into town this weekend. We'll be in mammoth this sat (the 2nd) through Tuesday (the 5th). Anyone want to show us some backcountry in the area? All expert skiers with an average of some experience in the back country (me a bit-friends a little less). Would be a group of 2-3 joining you. Hope to hear back!

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  22. #397
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    Stoke for upcoming storm

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  23. #398
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    Well so much for just a trace of snow! About a foot on the backside at 1 p.m., and still dumping when I left.
    Whoa, what you gotta say?? Whoa, girls turn 18 every day!!!
    --Vandals

  24. #399
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    Yeah dope day. Good stuff off 22 too

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    ^^ nice! ^^

    Lets keep our fucking fingers crossed...

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