Thread: My Goggles Fog!

Not on ze outside, not on ze inside, but RIGHT EN ZE MIDDLE!

I've got a pair of Dragon I picked up off of SAC last year. They started fogging in between the lenses pretty much from the first time I wore them. Because of that, they haven't been used extensively, but sadly, they're the only goggles I brought to New Zealand.

I don't leave them in the cold and always dry them inside. Is there any help? I was thinking about drilling a hole into the outer lens and covering the hole with a piece of gore tex repair tape. It'll be like the swanky porex hole on Smith Goggles. Will this work?

So 111 people have looked at this thread and nobody has an answer. Yes, it is the suck, and I buried the question deep. I should just go out and buy new goggles.

But seriously:

Does anyone think that drilling a hole in the outer lens and covering it with gore-tex will help stop the fogging between the lens?

Change your jacket and pants to waterproof or water resistant breathable fabrics. Don't wear a balaclava to trap heat on your head. Get a jacket that has a high enough collar to protect your face or go with a face protector that is not over your head.
Also, dont use a jacket that has elastic in the wrist cuffs because you need for air to travel up and down this corridor when you are not skiing. You need to be able to close that area down with velcro cuff straps when in the snow or skiing/riding but not all the time. You must think of everything you are wearing as a system. Took me many years and the development of new technology fabrics to figure out that it is most often not the goggle

Or, switch to Smith i/O goggles and carry 2-3 extra lenses. (which is what I used to do) But, I figured out that a hardshell jacket and pants that don't breath and a balaclava encased my body so moisture and heat could not escape. The only uncovered area was through the eyes, hence the goggle fogging. You can wear a helmet , make sure all the vents are open and unplugged.

I am not kidding about all this. Since using my own branded jackets and switching pants all to waterproof or water resistant breathable fabrics I can wear any googles I want. Funny you mentioned drilling, I even drilled the I/O lenses and put nothing over the holes. Make sure your goggles have plenty of venting and venting is not blocked by your helmet brim.


And, if you are wearing that monkey suit and mask, there in lies some of your problem

MiCol's suggestions are all excellent but probably won't help with fogging between the lenses. I suspect the reason no one has an answer is a) everyone is too hung over--3d weekend here in the States an b)no one has tried it. I haven't either but I would say--what have you got to lose? If it doesn't work you have to buy new goggles. If you don't try it you have to buy new goggles.

Buy the smith with the fan, ignitor mirror I think is 35% and covers all conditions but complete whiteout. complete white is sensor mirror. The fan goggles are around $150, but will never fog. i found they are the best, worth every penny ten some. Figure after lift ticket, early pow day, then no fog is priceless.

small to medium face
http://www.backcountry.com/smith-phe...rbo-fan-goggle

medium to large face and wider FOV
http://www.backcountry.com/smith-pro...rbo-fan-goggle

now you have your answer.......

Funny how when I post a thread about this I am an idiot and a moron.

LOL.

For the record my problem was mostly fixed by really drying out my vehicle and really drying out my goggles. I have read that you can put your oven on the lowest setting and put your gogs in there for a bit. I hung mine directly above the baseboard heaters for days.

The fog between the lenses is caused by moisture being in the lenses or the foam.

Dry drying them out first. Put it on heat or take a hairdryer on the lens and heat them up. IF you see fog inside the lens, keep heating until it is gone, then you can take care of them as above and they should no longer fog on the inside.

Originally Posted by StuntCok

Dry drying them out first. Put it on heat or take a hairdryer on the lens and heat them up. IF you see fog inside the lens, keep heating until it is gone, then you can take care of them as above and they should no longer fog on the inside.

Careful here... A couple years back at the Boat on a storm day I dried my goggles using one of those awesome XLerator bathroom hand driers. Worked awesome but within a half hour I was sick to my stomach. Seems the heat/air pressure combined to warp the lense & the distortion made me woozy. Half hour & $100 for new hi res lenses and I was ready to go.

Hmmm......it sounds like moisture sealed between the lenses; sometimes they come like that. If they were Smiths I'd say warrantee them, but they are Dragons, I don't know how they back their goods.
Anyway, that won't help you if you're traveling in NZ.

I had condensation between the lenses on a pair of Spy's a couple of years ago. I called Spy and they sent me replacement lenses on the spot. No questions asked. Dunno what Dragon's policy is, but those sound defective to me. Prolly worth calling customer service over it. I wonder what express shipping on replacement lenses would run from Dragon HQ over to NZ.

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

Funny how when I post a thread about this I am an idiot and a moron.

LOL.

For the record my problem was mostly fixed by really drying out my vehicle and really drying out my goggles. I have read that you can put your oven on the lowest setting and put your gogs in there for a bit. I hung mine directly above the baseboard heaters for days.

The fog between the lenses is caused by moisture being in the lenses or the foam.

fwiw, it was warm last winter and I had to start bringing my Goggles inside.

I think the problem here is that Dragon sucks. The seal is broken. Get some Smiths or Oakleys. Sorry.

Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

fwiw, it was warm last winter and I had to start bringing my Goggles inside.

I think the problem here is that Dragon sucks. The seal is broken. Get some Smiths or Oakleys. Sorry.

My problem was with brand spanking new smiths.

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Hmmm......it sounds like moisture sealed between the lenses; sometimes they come like that. If they were Smiths I'd say warrantee them, but they are Dragons, I don't know how they back their goods.
Anyway, that won't help you if you're traveling in NZ.

I had brand spanking new smiths that did this and they refused to warranty them. They explicitly stated that fog, even between the lenses, was not a warranty issue.

several seasons back, i had this problem with new smiths and new oakley's each after one day of use. for me at that time, the cheaper dragons did not have this problem. imo, twas a manufacturer defect. i bought them all at Return Everything Idefinitely, so exchanging was easy.

i think punching holes into the lenses will have no improvement.

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I had brand spanking new smiths that did this and they refused to warranty them. They explicitly stated that fog, even between the lenses, was not a warranty issue.

Funny thing is I had bought nothing but smith for many years. Not this year.

Don't sweat. Don't crash. No fog. Works every time.

Facemask will promote fogging. x2 on drying them out at night. Moisture is your enemy.

When I skied the LEast we hung a clothes line over the wood stove and I'd clip my goggles to that. Less of a problem with the dry climate in CO, but I still bring everything in out of the car to dry overnight.

the double lenses nowadays are so close to each other that you need to do a ridiculous amount of dry time to get the moisture out. capillary action is preventing solid water from dripping out. and the limited amount of penetrations (might only be a pinhole) in the edge seal prevents any change of air in the gap space

just cuz you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there. the moisture will sometimes just be humidity (ie gas form) in the lens until you get them into a cold environment, whereupon it changes to something you can see

only cure is get them into a very dry space with low constant heat and orient them (edge up) in a way that allows the vapor to escape

and even then, you have a lens that will be a repeat offender

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I had brand spanking new smiths that did this and they refused to warranty them. They explicitly stated that fog, even between the lenses, was not a warranty issue.

Did you PM The Reverand Floater here on TGR ? He works for Smith.

I have had to warranty things with Smith before with absolutely zero hassle. (admittedly not for this issue though...).

I've had pretty good luck by sealing up any opening at the bottom of a goggle with non-porous material....tape etc.