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  1. #1
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    Lange boots/Intuition liners?

    Does anybody have any experience using intuition liners in their Lange ski boots? Specifically any of the RS/RX/XT 100mm lasted shells?

    If so, what liner did you use, did the liner fit the shell well, etc. I'd really appreciate just a basic review if you have one to give.

  2. #2
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    sure they will work, they mold to fit just about any boot.

    question is why do you want intuition liners? to change the fit? the flex? the warmth?

    they do a few things well, but don't solve everything

    Email me at dave@fatskideals.com for boot fitting questions, or stop by
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  3. #3
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    I tried on a few pairs of langes the other day. RS110's and XT130LV's. both in 26.5 and 27.5.

    the 26.5s were a race fit, with my toes pretty jammed in the front, but not so bad when I was fully flexing into them. i'm worried about that for possible backseat/flat landings and toe bang.

    the 27.5s were much roomier in the toes, but seemed to loosen up a lot in the forefoot area.

    I was thinking that an intuition liner could possibly take up that room in the forefoot in the 27.5's, or with paired with stretching/grinding in the 26.5's, pack out the toes and give me more toe room with the better foot hold, as well as give me the fit and feel I like from intuition liners in the ankle, and keep me warm

    I know your reaction is probably to try on other boots and get one that is closer to fitting off the shelf, but that's not really an option.

  4. #4
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    go 26, get shell work done, and see if you need them after skiing the boot.
    odds are you will get LESS toe bang in the 26, as your heel will stay down and back, so your toes will stay back as well.

    Email me at dave@fatskideals.com for boot fitting questions, or stop by
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  5. #5
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    I have RX 130's and I put the Low Volume Luxury Liners from my Free Ride 120's in them. The 120's had a very tight fit even with punching so I went with the 100 mm last 130's as a replacement. The LV Luxury liners are a tad loose, but I think a re mould will fix it. They are about the same thickness as the stock, but much warmer and more comfortable. I would recommend the Luxury liners or the New Dreamliner which is similar, but has a thinner sole to accommodate footbeds and does not require heat moulding, if you want a replacement for the stock. If you want a liner that will stiffen the boot over the stock and potentially offer more performance, get the Power Wraps. Personally, I think the Luxury/Dream liners offer the same flex as stock, with a better fit and more warm if that is all you want. Try them first, but a Medium to Low volume liner will probably be best if you have a good fit out of the box. Probably a LV Luxury with 7mm thickness all around, or a MV Dreamliner, with 9mm on top and a 7mm sole, if you are using custom footbed. Just a starting point.

  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
    go 26, get shell work done, and see if you need them after skiing the boot.
    odds are you will get LESS toe bang in the 26, as your heel will stay down and back, so your toes will stay back as well.
    ^^^ Yup. When it doubt, go smaller and get shell work done.
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  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    ^^^ Yup. When it doubt, go smaller and get shell work done.
    Thirded. In the ten years since I've started skiing seriously Ive gone down for
    28 to. 27 to 26. 26 now has abOut a 3 to. 4 mm shell if and would never go back
    Do I detect a lot of anger flowing around this place? Kind of like a pubescent volatility, some angst, a lot of I'm-sixteen-and-angry-at-my-father syndrome?

    fuck that noise.

    gmen.

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portalcat View Post
    I tried on a few pairs of langes the other day. RS110's and XT130LV's. both in 26.5 and 27.5.

    the 26.5s were a race fit, with my toes pretty jammed in the front, but not so bad when I was fully flexing into them. i'm worried about that for possible backseat/flat landings and toe bang.

    the 27.5s were much roomier in the toes, but seemed to loosen up a lot in the forefoot area.

    I was thinking that an intuition liner could possibly take up that room in the forefoot in the 27.5's, or with paired with stretching/grinding in the 26.5's, pack out the toes and give me more toe room with the better foot hold, as well as give me the fit and feel I like from intuition liners in the ankle, and keep me warm

    I know your reaction is probably to try on other boots and get one that is closer to fitting off the shelf, but that's not really an option.
    You would be willing to compromise how your boots fit when you are in a good aggressive skiing position so they fit better when you are in the backseat? Liners don't dictate how well your boots fit, the shell fit does. Intuitions are toasty warm however.

    Seems similar to buying clothes that are too big for you because you plan on getting fat.

    Edit : oh yeah, and if you are hitting shitty airs devoid of good landings you may crush your toes even worse in boots that are too big for you than you would in boots that are the correct size. I always tell any Grom that is foolish enough to ask me skiing advise not to look for "good" airs, but rather, look for good landings and figure out how to jump into them...
    Last edited by Finstah; 09-03-2012 at 01:13 PM.

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