Thread: UNDER RYAN BUDGET ROMNEY WILL PAY 0.82% TAX RATE

Originally Posted by RIGHT WING HAMMER

why does the left insist on punishing the achievers? (rhetorical question)

It's because they try to win by starting class and race warfare. This is possible because the average leftist is as dumb as oxen. Lazy as a sloth and breeds like a rabbit.

The best bumper sticker I have seen in a while reads

THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT YOU BABY DADDY

ilikecandy alias = retard

Originally Posted by Harry

ilikecandy alias = retard

lol, i was just going to say

lamest. dex. alias. evar.

What an idiot: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/r...29.html?_esi=1

If he wants to have the public stop focussing on his taxes why does he keep bringing up how little he pays in taxes? That is if he even pays as much as he's claimed.

By the way, why are you talking about the Ryan budget, when Romney/Ryan are campaigning on the Romney budget, which, unlike Ryan, makes no changes on capital gains above $200k?

Disclaimer: this is from a dem advisor, but it is an interesting comparison.

Most American families do not make the $77,000 in a year, let alone have $77,000 to take care of a horse.

To see how Romney arrived at the large deduction, let’s look at how Rafalca’s needs stack up against those of the average American family:

Sheltering the average family for a year: $16,352; sheltering Rafalca: $28,800.

Clothing the average family: $1,142; clothing Rafalca: $10,000.

Annual health care costs for the average American family: $1,557; health care costs for Rafalca: $2,000.

Transporting the average American family: $7,164; transporting Rafalca: $15,420.

The comparison is striking. Families cannot receive tax deductions for their basic necessities, yet Mr. Romney claims massive deductions for the care and feeding of a horse.

It is fine to own and care for a horse. It is another to use it as a tax dodge.

Even more so, it is distasteful to aspire to public service while living such a double standard. Perhaps Romney should adopt a new campaign slogan: My Horse is Worth More Than Your Kid!

$77,000 is the amount of tax deductions on Ann Romney's horse.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/07/...ax-deductions/

Right. The last thing we need in office are successful people. Where are the community organizers? Oh wait, he's a millionaire too? Better go down to the unemployment line to find some qualified candidates

Romney\\\'s tax returns a secret and sacred bond between him and his God.

Does God still get his 10% tithe if it's off shored?

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

Where are the community organizers?

You mean Jesus, whose values conservatives like the DPiA say this country was founded upon and still live by?

Originally Posted by 4matic

You mean Jesus, whose values conservatives like the DPiA say this country was founded upon and still live by?

Considering conservatives give more to charity than liberals, and that jesus never advocated TAKING money from others, I dont really see the inconsistency

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

Considering conservatives give more to charity than liberals, and that jesus never advocated TAKING money from others, I dont really see the inconsistency

Tax cuts for the wealthy paid for by low and middle income earners. Uh oh! Looks like you're back to square one.

I guess you could be talking about conservatives in Somalia or some other anarchist state...otherwise everyone has to pay to play dood...well, at least they should. In the US more and more the rich don't pay their share.

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

jesus never advocated TAKING money from others

"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's"
--Matthew 22:21

Originally Posted by Harry

"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's"
--Matthew 22:21

Did i miss republicans advocating people unlawfully withholding their taxes?

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

Did i miss republicans advocating people unlawfully withholding their taxes?

Be specific...what did you mean by "TAKING" in this statement:

Considering conservatives give more to charity than liberals, and that jesus never advocated TAKING money from others, I dont really see the inconsistency .

Generally conservatives have more money so I'm not suprised they give more to charity...and good on them. Who are you suggesting is "TAKING" conservatives money? Currently the economic groups getting fucked over by the coservotards like Mittens are the low and middle income earners.

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Be specific...what did you mean by "TAKING" in this statement:



Generally conservatives have more money so I'm not suprised they give more to charity

poor conservatives give more, rich conservatives give more, both nominally and on a percentage basis. we have covered this already, but since it conflicts with your worldview you have chosen to ignore the facts and stick with your inaccurate narrative

...and good on them. Who are you suggesting is "TAKING" conservatives money? Currently the economic groups getting fucked over by the coservotards like Mittens are the low and middle income earners.

:facepalm

the cartoon suggests that republicans are in conflict with jesus because he advocated GIVING money to others, and they are not advocating TAKING more money from others. which makes no sense

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Generally conservatives have more money so I'm not suprised they give more to charity...and good on them.

Liberals actually make more but the bigger difference on charitable donations is between the religious and the secular. The studies on charitable giving show that the religious give more to charity than secular types but liberals who attend church tend to give almost as much as conservatives who attend church.

Regular church goers tend to be more parochial in their giving, however, so when tithing is excluded, then the numbers tend to balance out with a study done by Google suggesting that when giving to religious organizations is separated out then liberals actually give more.

Conservatives still give more as a percentage of their income and donate more time than liberals do while liberals, according to the study, make 6% more than conservatives and secular conservatives are the cheapest of all, giving the least amount to charity.

Originally Posted by Triage

WRT to charitable donations, the studies on charitable giving show that the religious give more to charity than secular types but liberals who attend church tend to give almost as much as conservatives who attend church.

Regular church goers tend to be more parochial in their giving so when tithing is excluded, then the numbers tend to balance out with a study done by Google suggesting that when giving to religious organizations is separated out then liberals actually give more.

Conservatives still give more as a percentage of their income and donate more time than liberals do while liberals, according to the study, make 6% more than conservatives and secular conservatives are the cheapest of all, giving the least amount to charity.

almost as much is also known as less. but its nice of you to post this spin every time someone bring up these FACTS

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

poor conservatives give more, rich conservatives give more, both nominally and on a percentage basis. we have covered this already, but since it conflicts with your worldview you have chosen to ignore the facts and stick with your inaccurate narrative


:facepalm

the cartoon suggests that republicans are in conflict with jesus because he advocated GIVING money to others, and they are not advocating TAKING more money from others. which makes no sense

You fucking moron...you're the one talking about "TAKING" money. I'll ask again, and be specific, what did you mean by someone "TAKING" conservatives money. You made the dumbass statement. If you meant that Jesus encouraged folks to take what they have and give to the poor, then you should've said that...but you didn't. Here's your quote again since you're too dumb to remember it:

Considering conservatives give more to charity than liberals, and that jesus never advocated TAKING money from others, I dont really see the inconsistency

Cons may give more money to charity...I rarely see them actually volunteering for much...then again, I'm in Portland, so...

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

You fucking moron...you're the one talking about "TAKING" money. I'll ask again, and be specific, what did you mean by someone "TAKING" conservatives money. You made the dumbass statement. If you meant that Jesus encouraged folks to take what they have and give to the poor, then you should've said that...but you didn't. Here's your quote again since you're too dumb to remember it:



Cons may give more money to charity...I rarely see them actually volunteering for much...then again, I'm in Portland, so...

when did i say anything about taking conservatives' money? be specific. "others" is everyone, and the implication is that because the Rs dont advocate taking money from others, they are in conflict with jesus, which is retarded, since jesus never advocated taking money from others.

and yes, cons volunteer more also. not sure why i bother telling you that since i already have, and will have to again and again because you refuse to believe a truth you dont like

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

almost as much is also known as less. but its nice of you to post this spin every time someone bring up these FACTS

Eh? I don't know what you're so butthurt about. Adolf Allerbush was under the impression that conservatives make more but according to the studies on charitable donations, liberals make 6% more.

Originally Posted by Triage

Eh? I don't know what you're so butthurt about. Adolf Allerbush was under the impression that conservatives make more when, according to the studies, liberals make 6% more.

That's my bad...thanks for the info.

bump........................

Does anyone here think that giving to a church's general fund (ie not a specific charitable cause) should be considered charitable giving? FWIW, I don't.

Originally Posted by flyandski365

Does anyone here think that giving to a church's general fund (ie not a specific charitable cause) should be considered charitable giving? FWIW, I don't.

Let's say Gingrich donated a few million to the Catholic Church who in turn used that to defend child molesting priests in court cases. Should that be considered "charity"? I think not.