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01-27-2014, 08:42 PM #101www.apriliaforum.com
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01-27-2014, 09:23 PM #102
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01-27-2014, 09:59 PM #103www.apriliaforum.com
"If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?
"I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
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01-27-2014, 10:08 PM #104Registered User
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01-27-2014, 10:08 PM #105
I hope your enjoying this. I'm on the buy 2 pair intend on selling 2 pair but only sell 1 program the last couple yrs and I've already reached my quota. maybe i'll see how work goes or summer praxis deals
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01-27-2014, 10:10 PM #106
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01-29-2014, 12:17 AM #107
Just ordered 187's to replace my "liberated" 186 Rossi Sickles. I have high hopes.
Goal: ski in the 2018/19 season
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01-29-2014, 01:23 AM #108Registered User
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How much does the 193 MVP weigh with the carbon option?
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01-29-2014, 09:10 AM #109
By my calculation, 8.8 lbs. So really light for a 110mm 193 cm ski that won't dissappoint on the descent.
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01-29-2014, 09:58 AM #110439-0116
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01-29-2014, 03:50 PM #111
Skied my 187 MVP a few days ago: definitely the most playful ski I've ever ridden.
Looking forward to using them in this storm we have now.Every man dies. Not every man lives.
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01-30-2014, 12:26 AM #112
I will certainly report back when I have some time on them.
Most of my ski gear was stolen and I couldn't find a 186 Sickle as a replacement for my lost gear, and this seemed like the closest comparison.
As an added benefit, the only complaint I ever had on the Sickles was that the wider tip and lack of taper was sometimes a tiny bit hooky in heavy snow, and I think the shape of the MVP addresses that, so I'm hoping it's actually better than the Sickle... but that's a lot to live up to.
I love my 180 BC's for touring and expect good things from this ski as a daily driver for Western Canada.Goal: ski in the 2018/19 season
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02-02-2014, 02:59 PM #113Registered User
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What tune do these come with out of the box?
Read somebody putting a 1 to 1 on them, which didn't make sense for out of the box.
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02-02-2014, 06:20 PM #114trenchman
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out of the shop they have the sharpest tip to tail edges i have ever owned.
de-tune the tips n tails for no hooky holding power.
i been on the mvp from the RX and noticed them to be quite versatile.
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02-02-2014, 08:21 PM #115
Anyone have a rocker profile picture for the MVP? Any comparisons vs billy goat tour?
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02-02-2014, 08:45 PM #116Registered User
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Tip and tail on a 193 MVP.
Own both, haven't toured either. MVP would win the weight contest, but it's also skinnier.
Only have 2 days on the MVP, but thus far I'd take the Goat over the MVP. I got the MVP to be super turny/smeary, which it is on flat surface, but not getting the same results in the trees and bumps. Goats win for float in pow for sure.
A more apples to apples would be a Goat vs GPO or similar waist width Praxis ski.Last edited by capulin overdrive; 02-02-2014 at 09:06 PM.
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02-02-2014, 11:08 PM #117Registered User
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02-04-2014, 10:37 PM #118
Made the trade... Now I just gotta decide between sollyfits (which let's me mount anywhere I want, including on the line) or I can put inserts in existing fks holes (on line) and Dynafit about - 1.5.
Given they are already short, does Dynafit at -1.5 sound like it will help or just be out of sweet spot?
Edit: I've got protests for real pow, so this would be more variable tours. I'm 5'10“, 185 +gear. Still getting used to centered stance and not tip driving.
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02-05-2014, 06:00 AM #119
I mounted my 183's on the line with sollyfits. It is a forward mount point and requires a centered drive to make it work. I have around 15 days on them so far skiing a lot of icy groomers and 3or 4 days of powder skiing and have had no problems with this mount point, easy to initiate and a clean release. I have not toured or skied with my plums mounted yet so have no input reguarding them.[may do that today] If you want to save the cost of the plates a 1.5 cm rearward mount for touring shouldn't be a problem.
Your best bet would be to insert them for the FKS and ski on them awhile. If you like it insrt for the Fits, if you don't mount some plates. Same amount of holes and inserts make better plugs.
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02-05-2014, 01:43 PM #120
^^^^ This. Why not just put the FKS (or dynafits) on there with the existing holes and see how you like it? If it works, you can throw inserts in, if not, mount fwd with plates. Seems like you have nothing to lose. Plus, given your weight and inclination to drive your skis, I think mounting back is the way to go on 183s.
Not sure what your BSL is, but you're welcome to try my 187s, which are mounted on the dimple. My BSL is 310.
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02-06-2014, 12:07 AM #121
Hey thanks for that comparison Cap'O. Maybe the concepts would be a better touring ski on account of the low rocker? I'm leaning more towards a billygoat tour than a MVP now.
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02-06-2014, 08:54 AM #122Registered User
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02-06-2014, 11:51 PM #123
Mine just arrived and are mounted, de-tuned and ready for a weekend of icy groomers and rocks in the Canadian Rockies.
Mounted with Griffon demo's and I'm starting on the line first, and the line "looks" pretty good to me. Shape looks pretty awesome in person and the very minimal camber under foot is exactly what I want... but there's a bit more rocker in the tip and tail than I anticipated. Still not much, though, which is what I was looking for in this ski, which I'm hoping is going to be my daily driver.
As expected, build quality is top notch and the weight is spot on as listed in the specs at 9 pounds. Subjectively, they feel pretty light for a 187 with this width under foot.Goal: ski in the 2018/19 season
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02-17-2014, 12:26 PM #124
I have 187 carbon med stiff mounted with a baron on the dimple.
Only have had them out twice. Once early season on spring like conditions and they were fine, but a little flappy at speed compared to my mantra. But that was not a fair comparison imo.
Yesterday got out into a variety of conditions. East coast.
Untracked just below knee deep they performed incredibly well. Just responsive and playful. Easy.
Wind blown fairly firm carvable steep they were spot on. Responsive and held the edge perfectly.
Cut up powder on the side of a groomer to get back to the lift was just stoopid fun.
Firm carvable moguls...ahh, I hate that shit these days, but they worked just fine. I'll be taking them to Taos next week and I'm sure I'll see plenty more of that.
So far very happy.
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02-17-2014, 02:58 PM #125
Anyone have a direct comparison between this and the GPO? While the MVP is more of the waist size I was looking for, on paper the longer camber contact area and lower tail rocker of the GPO seem to make it more versatile. Or am I talking out of my ass here?
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