Thread: BGs. 112RPs. Super 7s. Help.

I ski Whister (and sometimes Baker), so similar snow to you, and I have tried lots and lots of skis, though no ON3Ps or DPS.

The pow skis I have been happiest on are the 186 EHP and 190 Bibby (go for the 184 at your weight). My thoughts on how the 2 compare are here, and the choice for you depends on your style: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...75#post3587775

EHP vs. Renegade thoughts are here: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...CRJ-vs-186-EHP. Rens are definitely a try before you buy ski, but actually for me it was love at first turn and I actually liked them less and less as the novelty wore off, growing tired of the lack of effective edge and unforgiving fore-aft balance.

I owned 188 S7s (non-metal) and demoed 195 Super 7s for a couple runs. The skis are great but get rocked in chop due to the large splay in the tips, and are really slow in pow due to drag as a result of this design feature. The S7s were revolutionary skis but other models have taken the good from the S7 and tweaked what needed improvement (the exaggerated splay and the soft flex).

I'd like to try some ON3Ps and DPS since I hear nothing but good things.

Something to keep in mind...

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-re...uiver-part-6/3

H2OG Kodiak got a runner up to the 112 on blister....just saying its one to add to the list of choices.

@D(C): how do the Rens compare with the Bibby Pros, especially hard pack and crud performance? I'm assuming the Bibbys win...
Sorry for the slight thread hijack...Thanks

Originally Posted by Karl May

@D(C): how do the Rens compare with the Bibby Pros, especially hard pack and crud performance? I'm assuming the Bibbys win...
Sorry for the slight thread hijack...Thanks

Very different skis but both chargey in their own way.

Hardpack and chop/crud - both are nice skis if it's smooth, with the Bibbys feeling more locked into a carve. The Rens will always have a bit of slarve to them rather than being completely clean but nice turns on smooth groomers are possible. Once it gets bumpy (even skied-out groomers), the longer effective edge and regular camber on the Bibby keep them tracking and smooth. The Rens get deflected off-line because they have such a short sidecut and contact length. They're doable but you can't trust the edges in the same way.

In pow - take your pick. Rens are looser and faster in the open stuff (they feel like they have less drag, though the Bibbys don't feel overly draggy). In the trees, the Rens once again become a handful if it's tight since they have such a small sweet spot. If you're in the right place on them, great. If you need your tails, forget it. The Bibbys are more forgiving and snappier.

D(C), as always, awsome information, greatly appreciated

I have the 191 2011/12 billy goats (175 lb 5'11) which I use on days 6+ in. I absolutely love them but do feel they are big much for me to handle in tight steep trees. If I had it my way, I would pick up the 2012/13 186 for my tree ski (a bit more manuverable in tight spaces) and keep the 191 for everything else. I have 186 vicik or anything sub 6 in. I have been extremely impressed with the bombproof construction of both pairs. I am pretty hard on my skis, yet both pairs have little to no top sheet chipping or scratches on the base.

I've heard ON3P lets people demo their skis throughout the season (and will most likely have a demo day early season). I would try a few pairs out and see what you think.