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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    I agree that money has not been well spent but we have no choice but to pay more to fix what is broken.
    That's my point.
    We ALL know we have to fix what is broken and it MAY cost more money.
    Only Conservatives demand an actual PLAN TO FIX IT before being willing to pay.

    You would drop your kids car off for repairs and tell the mechanic he has a blank check. I want to know how much it's going to cost and if the expendature will actually FIX the problem.

    Let's just say guys like me are better/smarter "consumers" of the product called government.
    I've been to two state fairs and a goat fuck and never seen anything like this!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    Only Conservatives demand an actual PLAN TO FIX IT before being willing to pay.
    That's a bunch of bullshit. We had a great plan at the end of Clinton's administration...then GWB decided to cut taxes for the rich and give the poorer folks a couple hundo. 8 years later the economy is in the toilet, we're stuck in two wars (not accounted for), we've got medicare prescription (unfunded), TARP, etc. etc. The GOP is the party of no plan...
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    Only Conservatives demand an actual PLAN
    Would you mind demanding one from your party's actual candidate too. Please.
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    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Hey Hugh and PNW, you guys thru tonguing each other yet ?

    Or was that just foreplay and you've moved onto PMing reach arounds to each other now.........
    "You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSECS View Post
    Hey Hugh and PNW, you guys thru tonguing each other yet ?

    Or was that just foreplay and you've moved onto PMing reach arounds to each other now.........
    Typical content: ().
    Merde De Glace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Typical content: ().
    I wasn't talking to you .............piss off
    "You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit

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    hee hee!!
    "We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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    Quote Originally Posted by spook View Post
    hee hee!!
    Fuck, somebodies hacked Spooks account. Spook is not capable of even forming the phrase "Hee Hee" His head would explode.
    "You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSECS View Post
    Fuck, somebodies hacked Spooks account. Spook is not capable of even forming the phrase "Hee Hee" His head would explode.
    tee hee!!
    "We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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    Quote Originally Posted by spook View Post
    tee hee!!
    Yep, definitely hacked........
    "You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSECS View Post
    Yep, definitely hacked........
    Probably that 6'6" Russian guy with the steel plate in his head?
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    That's a bunch of bullshit. We had a great plan at the end of Clinton's administration...then GWB decided to cut taxes for the rich and give the poorer folks a couple hundo. 8 years later the economy is in the toilet, we're stuck in two wars (not accounted for), we've got medicare prescription (unfunded), TARP, etc. etc. The GOP is the party of no plan...
    Hey Stupid...Why do you think there's a Tea Party????
    I've been to two state fairs and a goat fuck and never seen anything like this!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Probably that 6'6" Russian guy with the steel plate in his head?
    He said his wife was south American (can't remember the nationality)......
    "You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSECS View Post
    He said his wife was south American (can't remember the nationality)......
    hoo hoo!!
    "We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    Hey Stupid...Why do you think there's a Tea Party????
    So the establishment can coop and channel your rage to their benefit
    Lord King of the Beater-Kooks

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    http://money.msn.com/retirement-plan...ie-forbes.aspx

    The headline machine was in overdrive earlier this year with the arrival of the latest Trustees' Report on SocialSecurity and Medicare. And while much of the media continues to herald the coming bankruptcy of Social Security, they do so at the risk of ignoring the real story -- a story that is neither difficult to explain nor hard to understand.

    Technically speaking, an entity is deemed bankrupt when its obligations exceed its revenues. Therefore, if the projections are accurate, Social Security will, indeed, be deemed bankrupt in 25 years -- absent modifications to resolve the funding problems.

    However, that does not mean that the money will be all gone come 2035. Nor do the headlines explain why we have the projected shortfall.

    The Social Security death index

    Subsequent to the projected expiration of the period where the trust can pay out 100% of the promised benefits, the fund will then be in a position to pay out 75% of promised benefits for the foreseeable future -- and that is not OK. Clearly, there need to be some changes made to Social Security so as to make up the 25% annual shortfall in benefits we anticipate will begin a quarter of a century from now.
    The cause of the shortfall

    But if we are to hope to make these adjustments in a sensible and realistic way, it might not be a terrible idea for the American public to actually understand the real causes of the shortfall in anticipated trust revenues.

    We are consistently led to believe that it is the "aging workforce" that rests at the heart of Social Security' funding problems. Tune in to any of the media reports covering the numbers just out and this is what you are going to see and hear.

    The claim, while legitimately representing a small piece of the problem, fails to explain the lion's share of the crisis we will experience in the Social Security Trust --and by lion's share, I mean a full 60% of the entitlement's funding shortages.

    The "aging workforce" narrative serves to encourage and support the critics who claim that our problem is too many retirees lining up to collect their entitlements only to find that the government has failed to properly manage the Social Security Trust -- leaving the next generation of beneficiaries to be shortchanged 25 years down the line. As a result, the privatization pushers argue that Americans would be far better off looking out for their own retirement accounts so that government mismanagement will not come between hard-working citizens and their retirement money.

    This is the Great American Social Security Lie.

    It is a lie concocted by those seeking to fulfill Wall Street's eternal quest to get its sweaty palms on trillions of dollars of our retirement cash, allowing them to expand their casino operations beyond their wildest imaginations -- and Wall Street has a very healthy imagination.
    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

    In a perfect World, every dog would have a home and every home would have a dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSECS View Post
    I was just this close to putting a disclaimer on the last post, cause I knew this would be yer next post (you're welcome by the way for the set up).


    Nope, my brain only hurts when I read some of the silly shit spewed here.......
    dude, you're the second leading cause of silly shit spewing, right behind spammerboy.
    "We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    I wouldn't be so stupid as to put all of my eggs in one basket, but IF my investments all went bust, and I was old, destitute, and too feeble to work, I'd have to depend on my family, friends, and perhaps private charity. No matter what may happen to me, I don't want to pass that burden on to the nation. n.
    such selfless loyalty to an entity that doesn't give a fuck about you in its current form. i hope you're in the military. i hear we're short on cannon fodder.
    "We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    To take care of the $2,000 a month rental properties the maggot slumlords are lusting over?

    Without real economic growth yer just stealing from another pocketbook so for you to be a big winner someone else has to lose. Bunch of people losing = bunch of people dying in the gutter. Rather shitty situation for everyone, unless you want to be some 3rd worlder driving by in your Cayenne
    no way. i was told anybody can achieve their dreams of upward social mobility if only they work hard enough. that means there's room for everybody!! yay american dream!!!
    "We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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