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06-18-2012, 04:42 PM #1
Dalbello Krypton Pro vs. Il Moro vs. Full Tilt Konflict
So I finally killed my krypton pros after skiing them since 2007...It's time for a new pair.
Now that I'm back in the boot market, a few new models have popped up and for some reason forum threads/shop nerds can't seem to give me a straight answer when it comes to comparing the models above.
I LOVE the 3 piece shell and am sticking with it (obviously)...I ski big mountain competitively, but I'm a lighter guy at 5'10/165--I've recently found that I don't necessarily want or need the HIGHEST horsepower super stiff skis out there (into softer/rockered/more playful lately), and I'm willing to give a slightly softer boot a try based on the same principle. I definitely want something lighter/more playful feeling, but without sacrificing too much of the performance I loved with my kryptons.
Anyone with thoughts on the Il Moro/Konflict? Anyone that's come off of a krypton pro and tried one of the other models? I know there are some ideologues out there for every one of these boots, so please keep in mind I'm only interested in pretty objective reviews/pros/cons.
My thoughts are that the buckle on the il moro might give it a more "variable" flex--AKA it seems like you can dial it in to exactly what you want...Which makes this one a top contender right now. I'm also thinking about the Konflict for the weight savings and (slightly) softer flex (with the option of getting a stiffer tongue if need be).
Anyway any and all thoughts appreciated here, thanks!!
06-18-2012, 04:52 PM #2
I really love the buckle on the Il Moros I have. My favorite part is being able to loosen and tighten them underneath my pants when I get on/off the lift. A couple people I know have the Kryptons with the Il Moro top because of the buckle.
Heard a couple stories about the plastic breaking on them, but no problems personally in two seasons.You're not a poet, just a drunk with a pen.
06-18-2012, 05:04 PM #3
I would buy boots based on what fits you as the first thing. Odds are if the Current Kryptons fit, the fulltilts will not (lower volume) The newest Krypton shape is very similar to the old one as well.
FT has a vibram boot out for this year too. Again a very similar FT shape
Kry vs FT shapes and info on this thread.
06-18-2012, 07:19 PM #4
New Kryptons next season will have Scorpion last, which is lot closer to a human foot, plus some will have replaceable Vibram front and rear pads. Worth waiting for IMO.
06-19-2012, 12:05 PM #5
I skied the Krypton Pro for a few years before moving on to Full Tilts, which I will be staying with. Other than crappy buckles (broke 5 of 6 of mine in one season), they're legit. Lower volume than Kryptons which is great for my skinny foot and ankle. New FTs have replaceable rubber toes/heels. The new Dalbello shape has a little more of an ankle and heel pocket than before...
Personally I like the lightness of the FTs and the options to change flex are numerous...
06-19-2012, 01:06 PM #6
I like the idea of the lower volume ft but there so short in the cuff height plus they're bsls are off and I can't really find one I fit Into length wis. as it is I'm already in a 26 krypton pro with only about 4 mm of fit.
When they change the krypton pro for the upcoming season I stock piled on a new pair of the 11-12s to replace my 08sDo I detect a lot of anger flowing around this place? Kind of like a pubescent volatility, some angst, a lot of I'm-sixteen-and-angry-at-my-father syndrome?
fuck that noise.
06-19-2012, 11:11 PM #7
Have you considered the Nordica Fire Arrow? I love em.“I mean god damn, who could believe that shit.” Greg Noll, Riding Giants
06-22-2012, 03:45 PM #8
Awesome thanks for all the info. Really interested to see what the 2013 il moros/kryptons will look like, sounds like some interesting updates being made...Also heard something about a lower hinge point this year??
As soon as my toenail comes off, and as soon as my shop starts getting the goods I'll be seeing a fitter.
Think I may actually like the lower volume of the konflict, might work a bit better on my skinny ass ankles and calves, plus the (slightly) lighter weight is a big selling point for me...
08-15-2012, 11:56 PM #9
bumpin this as it seems the 2013s are starting to get into the shops...Trying on the KR2 ID vs Il Moro ID as soon as they come in, interested to feel the difference...
09-25-2012, 09:28 AM #10
OK so I went to the fitter. KR twos are a HUGE improvement from my old kryp pros. Unbelievable fit right out of the box, as was the il moro. The decision's going to come down to flex: I liked the smooth, progressive flex of the il moro but compared to the kr2 it is SOFT. Big surprise here.
I feel like the il moro would be a great boot if it were a bit more customizable, i.e. if it came with a stiffer tongue. I actually really love the progressive flex of this boot, but it's hard to convince myself to go with it since it's a lot softer than what I'm used to. I am still on the fence about whether I need a boot any stiffer than this though...
Will be going back for another round this week, with my footboards, and will more than likely end up in the KR2. Possibly with a softer tongue than I've gone with in the past.
Anyone have an opinion about going with the softer boot? I'll probably be doing a big mountain comp this year, and if not I tend to ski big mountain more often than not. But I'm really interested in trying a softer/lighter boot to make things a bit easier in the air, and possibly take that lap in the park every once in awhile.
Has anyone gone from a krypton to an il moro?
09-25-2012, 09:30 AM #11
Also worth mentioning: I'm on AK JJs or aome variant of them at any given time. The thing is, I don't know that I need a stiffer boot to drive the heavily rockered skis anymore. Thoughts?
09-26-2012, 09:16 AM #12acpowman
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what about the KR 2 fusion or core, aren't they the same shell & fit as the KR 2 but softer ?
anyway isn't the flex adjustable on the KR2, can't you just soften it ?
09-26-2012, 09:40 AM #13
^^When I go back to get fitted with my footboards I'm planning on trying them with the softer tongue--hoping that will do the trick
10-06-2012, 11:09 PM #14
Ended up going KR2 with a the "softer" tongue. Pretty confident in my decision, I have a feeling I would have wanted a bit more horsepower out of the il moros--they just felt too soft. Also I heard Tanner himself skis the KR2s with an il moro paint job. Would be kind of funny to verify if there was any truth to that one, I wouldn't be surprised
10-07-2012, 10:05 PM #15
No better boot than a Krypton Pro ID.go upside down.
10-08-2012, 03:06 PM #16
Kinda late, but you might consider getting the kr2 pro w/id. Comes with soft and hard boot boards and a medium and stiff tongue. Additionally, you can order a nylon tongue separately if you want a REALLY stiff flex.
10-14-2012, 06:14 PM #17
How are the liners? Swapping them out? Also curious to hear thoughts on stiffness of the KR twos vs some of the traditional 130s out there? I have been considering the 3 piece stuff a bit but have the opposite concern that i won't be able to get them stiff enough. Currently ski some rossy b squad carbon 130s.
10-29-2012, 02:47 PM #18
10-29-2012, 10:04 PM #19
Own ID Cross, previous version of Fusion without new Kr2 last. Stocks liners are decent, but ID's are worth the extra $. Do a search, plenty on Intuition wraps.
10-30-2012, 04:51 PM #20
I went from a Kryp Pro ID to a FT something-or another (pink/red ones), and straight back to the Kryp Pro ID. For my foot and my style, there's nothing better IMO. Sure would like to try on a pair of the new ones.Gravity. It's the law.
10-30-2012, 07:45 PM #21
10-30-2012, 10:23 PM #22
Gotta be the ID. Thanks, though.Gravity. It's the law.
11-02-2012, 01:20 AM #23Registered User
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IMO if you're doing big mountain comps, #1 upgrade the liner(zipfit, or foam injection) i favor zipfit and, replace factory velcro strap with a world cup Booster strap.
11-02-2012, 11:19 AM #24Registered User
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Does anyone know the boot sole length for a Krypton/Il Moro 27/27.5 shell? I know the 26/26.5 is 306. Thanks.
11-02-2012, 01:44 PM #25
I read that there a 10mm increments between sizes. 27/27.5 shell should be 316.