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Thread: Crank Bros: the trail of fail
06-21-2012, 07:19 AM #101
06-21-2012, 07:55 AM #102STRAVA: Enabling dorks everywhere to get trails shut down........ all for the sake of a race on the internet.
06-21-2012, 08:29 AM #103
Oh, and can Time and CB pedals be used as a bottle opener?
I've seen plenty of happy CB users. I don't see how they could fuck up a handle bar.No longer stuck.
06-21-2012, 09:22 AM #104
06-21-2012, 10:13 AM #105
06-21-2012, 03:38 PM #106
06-21-2012, 04:19 PM #107Gravity. It's the law.
06-21-2012, 05:52 PM #108
Shimano pedals fit/remove a bottle cap like it was a design imperative. Try it!
06-21-2012, 08:30 PM #109
Are you guys not bringing weed and a lighter along on your rides?
07-23-2012, 01:54 PM #110
Besides, SPDs have enough float for my heels to smack the chainstays on the inner side, and I can't envision an advantageous riding position that involves going more pigeon-toed than SPDs let me.
But then again, I ride a 29er and they only go uphill, so what do I know?
07-23-2012, 02:01 PM #111STRAVA: Enabling dorks everywhere to get trails shut down........ all for the sake of a race on the internet.
07-23-2012, 03:36 PM #112
07-23-2012, 05:23 PM #113
07-23-2012, 05:34 PM #114The Shred Pirate Roberts
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Purchased a bike this spring that came with Eggbeaters. Figured I give them a try rather than buy my go-to's: Time Atac. God dammit they suck. I hate them.
07-23-2012, 05:45 PM #115
I saw some mallets shear off a couple weeks ago (during a race). Number of people at the finish line who were surprised: 0
07-23-2012, 05:59 PM #116
I ride flats because of terrible experiences w clip less. Now I realize that I only rode cb's. Is it time to get some shimanos and shoes?
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07-23-2012, 09:06 PM #117Life is tough. It's tougher when you're stupid
07-23-2012, 10:20 PM #11840-14
07-24-2012, 09:11 AM #119
the point of the thread was not to re-hash the 'crank bros pedals vs other pedals' meme, which has been done to death, and always reduces down to, essentially, 'lots of riders like the release feel of the crank bros design, but the reliability of their pedals has been problematic for many riders...and other riders have had no reliability issues'. I don't see why someone's personal anecdote somehow trumps the more statistically relevant conclusions within an industry as a whole, or within a high-volume bike shop. Hell I have a pair of 10 yr old Mallets that still get used occasionally...doesn't mean I can't recognize the fact that many many riders have had shit reliability w/ crank bros pedals.
the point of 'trail of fail' is: based on the poor track record (and here I'm referring to actual, statistically significant track record...the kind that an experienced bike mechanic at a good shop can relate to) of so many Crank Bros products (i.e. NOT just pedals), the eyes of the industry were staring hard at CB's new post, wondering if CB was finally about to release an innovative but reliable product. In the period prior to the release of the Kronolog, most of the online/magazine previews focused on The Question: would it, or would it not, have the shit reliability that has become synonymous w/ the overall brand?
Given that scrutiny, which was coming from so many places, the marketing dept and engineers MUST have had some conversations along the lines of 'OK so have we tested the hell out of this? Our intro is very high profile...given the track record of the Joplin, and us screwing up headset design for crissakes, and selling expensive wheels for years with inherent freehub issues it took a while to fix, and don't get me started on our pedal issues....we simply can't afford to see mainstream magazines, let alone the idiots on mtbr, conclude that the Kronolog is Krap.'
So essentially I'm just wondering what sort of internal conversations went on inside CB. Are they in denial? Delusional? Is it the same set of engineers failing repeatedly across their product line, or have they had turnover inside their design dept? Do they not have adequate $$$ budgeted for product testing?
07-24-2012, 09:31 AM #120
Why spend money on testing when the consumers will pay you?!
07-24-2012, 11:40 AM #121Registered User
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Frorider they relied on sufficient numbers of morons taking it lubeless. TGR is a representative subset
07-30-2012, 05:37 AM #122
I broke another set of CB pedals yesterday.
Can't wait for my Kronolog to come in the mail!