Thread: >110mm above treeline touring ski

Originally Posted by marshalolson

the carbon megawatt is 2100g per ski.

In 188? Hohes is a midget, so he could use the 178s and thus go sub 2kg/ski..

Thanks - I couldn't see the carbon BDs on the BD webiste.

Isn't there a slightly skinnier one in the range that still meets his requirements? Amp?

Drifter seems the way to go though.

Originally Posted by Meathelmet

In 188? Hohes is a midget, so he could use the 178s and thus go sub 2kg/ski..

178 is 2000g.

amp 175cm is 2150g.

Originally Posted by Meathelmet

In 188? Hohes is a midget, so he could use the 178s and thus go sub 2kg/ski..

I think I'm taller than you. And your 23 mondo boot. Fucking hobit.

I didn't know there were carbon megawatts. I've always liked that shape, but groaned when I picked them up.

Thanks for bringing them up.

So far Lotus 120 178 is winning me over the most.

If you like/love the W112, I'm guessing you won't regret getting the L120. I'll admit, I was worried about the huge turn radius when I bought them, but they're surprisingly easy to ski (ended up selling them for that reason, but apparently I'm in a very small minority). It will be interesting to see if you like them more or less than your W112s.

Well, it is a powder ski which is light and handles variable with a big radius. I'll probably like it.

But I don't need it to have any overlap with my W112's in trees.

Before I get too focused, how big is the twin tip on the L120 compared to the W112?

I had a a pair of Lotus 120, 200 cm. I sold them because they were not "tree skiing Sticks"...That's why I bought my 112's, so overlap shouldn't be a problem. Handles very differently from 112's iMO.
Admittedly they were too long for me at 200 cm and I like my Drifters in the trees at 182cm but even in a shorter lenght, L120's do not overlap with 112's if that, as it seems to be a major concern.
Why not go L138's if you want a big radius, alpine terrain ski, winter ski.....lotta people tour in those puppies and there ain't no overlap with 112's there.

I'd love to ski the 138. But as an alpine powder touring ski (with long approaches involved) I have a feeling it is not practical enough. Skis on my feet when ascending are tools that can be used in different ways, not just walking platforms in deep snow. For me the climb and how I use my skis is not just an inconvenience to be endured before the descent. I climb/tour so I can climb/tour. And I also get to ski. Both have to be as equally rewarding.

Great alpine climbing tools might be Wailer 105's. Great alpine skiing tools might be 138's. Trying to find middle ground so that the art of both up and down can be expressed (as best I can).

Originally Posted by freak

im using the downskis countdown 2 for the exact same purpose, but they are heavy


you can go skitouring in japan for 6 months? thats cool, i didnt know that. well, with the amounts of snow there, i probably

yeah man, when Lars told me about Down skis last year I was looking at the 2. But heavy and long like you said. Ticks a lot of other boxes though.

Japan: I just take it for granted now and have forgotten that most other people don't know what is going on here. It isn't epic by most measures, but touring for 6 months in my town is a given. I get 9 meters of snow at my front door over a season, and the peaks are 2000m higher than my house (looking at them now out the window). So lots of snow+some altitude = long season. To be honest you can ski tour for 7.5 months in a normal year, but that is squeezing every drop out of it.

Sunset from my shitty deck 2 days ago. I'm extending the deck for more standing space, but it will remain equally as shitty.

i have basically the same view from my window here minus the trees (peaky peak with skiable north side which narrows into a chute, and then a ridge roing lookers left), peak 2000m above the valley. there is just nearly no snow anymore...
7.5 months sound great, not much less than the alps.

freak~[&]

Hohes.

I just grabbed some 2011/12 182 Drifters from Sierra Trading Post for $290 shipped using a new sign up discount. There seemed to be some others still left.

Seemed rude not to.

Depending on how much of a fit my wife throws... I may have to turn them around.

Hohes, if you're leaning towards Lotus 120s, you might consider 177 Protests. Very light in the carbon layup version (my 187s are 2.1kg per ski), but possibly too wide, or?

Bargains to be had at Praxis at the mo....

Protests (and particularly Lotus) are a bit wide for the terrain/snow/distances that I have in mind... and a bit heavy in regular layup. Though I'd be interested in the weight of the carbon model.

So far the Wootest if it came in a shorter lighter version, or one of the Volkl touring models is looking most likely. I can never remember which Volkl ski has what name, but there is one that sounds like it skis 'bad' mountain snow well.

Originally Posted by Hohes

Protests (and particularly Lotus) are a bit wide for the terrain/snow/distances that I have in mind... and a bit heavy in regular layup. Though I'd be interested in the weight of the carbon model.

So far the Wootest if it came in a shorter lighter version, or one of the Volkl touring models is looking most likely. I can never remember which Volkl ski has what name, but there is one that sounds like it skis 'bad' mountain snow well.

There's the Volkl touring ski out of the Gotama mold, and then there's the one out of the 10-11 Mantra mold, with the 11-12 tip rocker. I wonder which one is better for wind board and crust?

I had to look it up. This is teh one I had in mind. Nunataq. http://www.wildsnow.com/5879/volkl-nunataq-ski-review/

Originally Posted by Hohes

Sunset from my shitty deck 2 days ago. I'm extending the deck for more standing space, but it will remain equally as shitty.

Fuck me... I need to learn Japanese

I recommend a fine smooth skinned long haired dictionary as a learning aid.

Originally Posted by Hohes

I had to look it up. This is teh one I had in mind. Nunataq. http://www.wildsnow.com/5879/volkl-nunataq-ski-review/

Anyone have any more info on the Nunataq? Looks like a solid option. Also, anyone have thoughts on the Surface Live Life? Lightish in the 181(a bit over 8lbs I think), could be a great pow, upside down snow ski that might be able to hardshit from time to time.

How about a Praxis RX in a 179cm?
weight for standard layup is 8.5 lbs.
might shave 0.5 lb with carbon layup.

28 m radius

Keith might cut the tails for you??? (to address your concern about "too much twin")
no harm in asking...

http://www.praxisskis.com/shop/buy-s...&category_id=4