Thread: How do you feel about paying cash to avoid taxes.

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

What's another interesting tack on the topic is what the respondents income level is. When you're not making a lot of money, it makes sense to skim here and there. So I don't really have a problem with lower incomes skizzing on their taxes. But I do think that once you're over 200k/year, tax skizzing is pretty lame.

So it's OK for YOU to decide who can screw his neighbor by not paying their fair share.

You suck as a member of society.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

So it's OK for YOU to screw you neighbor by not paying your fair share but it becomes a problem when someone else does it.

You suck as a member of society.

HAH!!! Gotcha!

Now, how am I not paying my fair share? Do you have any idea what my income level is?

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

So it's OK for YOU to decide who can screw his neighbor by not paying their fair share.

You suck as a member of society.

Geez, you're rephrasing that a lot. Fair is a rather subjective term, don't you think?

I'm not really deciding what's what. I just have an opnion that runs contrary to yours. And unfortunately you have so much ridiculous rage about it you can't seem to respond without being your usual disrespectful self.

I'm actually an awesome member of society. You're using the stuff I wrote billions of times a day. I don't use anything you've ever done.

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

HAH!!! Gotcha!

Now, how am I not paying my fair share? Do you have any idea what my income level is?

I know that you make a shit load of money. That's why I edited what I said very quickly but obviously not quick enough.

Why do you think it's OK for ANYONE to break the law? Especially when it comes to tax cheating. That's not a victimless crime. If someone cheats, the rest of us have to make up the difference.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

I know that you make a shit load of money. That's why I edited what I said very quickly but obviously not quick enough.

Well at least you're consistently obvious.

Why do you think it's OK for ANYONE to break the law? Especially when it comes to tax cheating. That's not a victimless crime. If someone cheats, the rest of us have to make up the difference.

Because the laws are made by the very wealthy to benefit them and not you. And they get the less observant to defend them. And because the tax burden on folks of lower income has a much greater negative impact on them than someone that's making a butt load while paying cap gains and deferred interest taxes.

So if Jow the window washer skizzes his taxes for $5k, that's just as bad as when Jim the investment banker skizzes his for $5M. I guess your morality is tuned differently than mine. At least I don't have to overtly call you a putz.

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

Geez, you're rephrasing that a lot. Fair is a rather subjective term, don't you think?

I'm not really deciding what's what. I just have an opnion that runs contrary to yours. And unfortunately you have so much ridiculous rage about it you can't seem to respond without being your usual disrespectful self.

I'm actually an awesome member of society. You're using the stuff I wrote billions of times a day. I don't use anything you've ever done.

You say you are a great member of society but you advocate people break the law. That seems like someone who isn't on board with the laws the society as a whole has passed. You might want to re-think your stance.

Software I presume.

You don't know that you are not indirectly benefitting from what I do but I get paid $X per year so $X must be my possitive contribution to society. Luck for me, my $X is a big enough $X that I'm in the tier of people who actually paid federal income tax. Not in your league I'm sure...

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

You say you are a great member of society but you advocate people break the law. That seems like someone who isn't on board with the laws the society as a whole has passed. You might want to re-think your stance.

Nope, don't think so. I'm awesome. Just a realist regarding the crafting of tax codes, drug laws and the occasional speedlimit.

Software I presume.

Ah HA! The bulb is showing a glimmer.

You don't know that you are not indirectly benefitting from what I do but I get paid $X per year so $X must be my possitive contribution to society. Luck for me, my $X is a big enough $X that I'm in the tier of people who actually paid federal income tax. Not in your league I'm sure...

Correct. I don't know that. But I'll venture the guess.

You're really weird. I can't imagine what I've written that has you thinking I don't pay income tax. Anyway, rage away d00d.

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

Serious question.
How do you feel about paying cash for material and service to avoid paying sales tax, help the other person avoid paying B&O or income tax. Do you report what you buy online to state agencies? Do you vote for tax increases? Do you vote against tax increases. If you pay someone to do minor yard work or help you around the house do you file a 1099?

Are you consistent? Do you vote for tax increases, but work the system to avoid paying taxes? Do you vote against tax increases, but follow the letter of the law?

Can we have a serious discussion without name calling and put downs?

We only have property tax in my state so I guess I'm pretty consistent.

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

the occasional speedlimit.

Occasional?

Ha.

Haha.

Hahaha.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Occasional?

Ha.

Haha.

Hahaha.

Now. now. When I'm in residential areas or neighborhoods where those with disabilitys live, such as DBTs, I respect the speed limit. I go out of my way to slow down even if it obviously doesn't help.

But yes, on highway 410 when stuck behind the train of minivans, I admit that I do become somewhat deft of foot with the accelerator pedal. I mean geez there's 300 hp just sitting there unused, neglected, wanting, desiring, needing my attention.

Busted.

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

Are you consistent? Do you vote for tax increases, but work the system to avoid paying taxes? Do you vote against tax increases, but follow the letter of the law?

Can we have a serious discussion without name calling and put downs?

Originally Posted by somedumbass

Bunion, not surprised that you can't have an honest conversation.

Riddle me this bright boy, when was the last time any of us had the chance to vote either for or against a tax increase?

You answer me that and I will answer your questions, however stupid they may be

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

I respect the speed limit.

Following Pilsburydoughboysshredders moral compass on this issue, from now on.... I'm only going to be respecting speed limits I voted to decrease.

Originally Posted by Bunion

Riddle me this bright boy, when was the last time any of us had the chance to vote either for or against a tax increase?

You answer me that and I will answer your questions, however stupid they may be

I put the question in the context of education or road construction bonds. So in the Galactic Coloring Book, you can color me stupid, but that's what I thought he meant.

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

I put the question in the context of education or road construction bonds. So in the Galactic Coloring Book, you can color me stupid, but that's what I thought he meant.

Yeah, I was being EXTREMELY general.

Also, here, we have votes on sales tax increases regularly, at the city level, county level, and state level.

More esoterically, if you are voting for a candidate that is on record for supporting tax increases, you are supporting tax increases.

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

you are supporting tax increases.

Reagan raised taxes...... and speed limits.

And I always thought he was all bad.

it was nancy that blew billions on the 'just say no' policy that still suck hudge tax $$$$$$'s.

??? should we pay tax on mj bought ?
bf

I don't think we should pay any taxes, but all the liberals say I'm crazy.

Originally Posted by flowing alpy

??? should we pay tax on mj bought ?

Didn't DB(pilsbury)S give up the ganj?

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

More esoterically, if you are voting for a candidate that is on record for supporting tax increases, you are supporting tax increases.

Tax increases for whom?

Originally Posted by flowing alpy

it was nancy that blew billions on the 'just say no' policy that still suck hudge tax $$$$$$'s.

??? should we pay tax on mj bought ?
bf

Hey you, no posting in polyass! Back to the bar-b-que!!!!

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I don't think we should pay any taxes, but all the liberals say I'm crazy.

Is that really practical?

Probably not, but a guy can dream, right?

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

Probably not, but a guy can dream, right?

I'm all for dreaming. Right on!

I can almost guarantee you nobody pays all their tax, tax law is a weird mix of old shit that only kind of applies and super specific categories for all the little shit we sometimes do in life. I've been involved in matters were the IRS has essentially said fuck we don't know either lets go to court and let them figure it out.

I would maybe pay more taxes than the law dictates if I could guarantee it only went to a specific activity. I like space, I think its very important but most people don't because they are stupid so I'd give more money to NASA. I don't currently because I know it would just end up buying some more bullets or half a dinner for some congress person.

There certainly are people who want no tax but lets be honest they are living in a fantasy land, I mean what is the real honest alternative to gov't rule.....nobody fucking knows.

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

Yeah, I was being EXTREMELY general.

Also, here, we have votes on sales tax increases regularly, at the city level, county level, and state level.

More esoterically, if you are voting for a candidate that is on record for supporting tax increases, you are supporting tax increases.

Well lets see, in Montana, no sales tax so forget that, I live outside of city limits so I don't pay any mil levies for education aside from my property taxes and I am totally o.k. pay for education even though I don't have kids. Country taxes are property taxes and since we don't have a sales tax they are a bit higher than some places but again, I am o.k. with that. No candidates in recent memory have run on a platform of, "I want to raise taxes". Many have said they want to increase revenues, same thing but much more murky as to what they actually mean. Take into account that Montana receives quite a bit more in Federal dollars than we pay to the Feds.

All in all I am not sure what you are getting at here except for the usual DBS weirdness but what else is new.

If someone requests Cash or offers a discount for Cash is is not my job to make sure they are paying taxes.

So yes, you were being EXTREMELY VAGUE.


However if you want to reform the Tax Code, I am listening.