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05-05-2012, 04:33 PM #1
Fly fishing around Jackson, looking for an outfitter.
I posted something similar a last year around this time. At that time we were just doing some research into what part of the country we would want to fish We have a group of between 6-12 guys looking to head west next spring for some fly fishing on the Snake river in the Jackson Hole area.
We're looking for a fishing outfitter for a couple guided days. Hopefully a fish camp, lodge or camping along the river if possible.
Any leads on a good outfit in the area ??
Which months give us the best opportunity for prime fishing ?
I'll hang up and listen."You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit
05-05-2012, 05:14 PM #2
i think you should pm schwertyLord King of the Beater-Kooks
05-05-2012, 05:24 PM #3
05-06-2012, 10:34 AM #4
Spring? As in before the runoff? Spring fishing is kind of unpredictable and most lodges are not open yet. For example, this year is a fairly warm, early spring and the weather is nice today, but it just snowed again and the winds have been especially severe for most of the last week. The two previous springs saw a lot of muddy rivers in flood stage until mid-june or later. There is a whole 3-4 weeks of variability in the run-off cycle from year to year. Generally speaking, the Snake and its freestone tribs around Jackson run cold and turbid once runoff begins and it is known more as a mid-summer through late fall river. In the late spring and early summer, the Henry's Fork, South Fork and Green get a lot of visits from Jackson area anglers. In a big snow year, the Snake/South Fork and all high elevation tribs are poor fishing until runoff subsides and everyone gets packed into the Henry's, the Firehole or a spring creek.
As far as river camping goes, I don't think any outfitters have their South Fork Conant Canyon overnight camps set up until june but that 25 mile trip is the only over night float around here. Most lodges don't get going until the end of may. South Fork Lodge, Three Rivers Ranch and WorldCast have designated South Fork camps with wall tents, cots, dining tent, etc.. South Fork Lodge, Palisades Creek, Teton Valley Lodge and Three Rivers Ranch are outftter/lodges that feature posh streamside lodging and dining; Trouthunter is less fancy and operates more like a small hotel/tavern on the water. Day float trips cost $475-$550 plus tip for two anglers; All inclusive (guides w/ boats, gear, meals and streamside lodging) costs a lot more. Expect guide bookings to be mostly full on the HF during the famous hatches of early summer. AND, it could be hard to get all 12 guys into a group float in Idaho. ID outfitters are allowed only 3 or 4 boats per permit, per river section. Worldcast is double permited on the SF and Three Rivers has double permits for the HF. If you have 8 or more, it will probably require some advance booking.
You can effectively fish around here from March through Thanksgiving but you can't expect to do well everywhere, every time. Prime fishing is a moving target in a sometimes competative sport. In an average water year, the major stonefly and drake hatches come off in June and July for the HF and SF and run later into the season on the upper Snake watershed. I guess that big bug dry fly action is what most visiting anglers want to experience, if that is what you mean by "prime fishing". It certainly is what draws a crowd. Personally, I've lost faith in reliably finding "prime fishing" if it means taking a turn fishing over-worked riffles on heavily floated water. Some days you luck out with a hatch and its truly great...but then every damn guide and angler with a drift boat gets the hatch report and within two days that section of river turns into a take-a-number-for-a-riffle shit show and hits a point of diminishing returns. In other words, if you can anticipate a hatch or luck into it, things often turn out to be primo. Chasing hatch reports on big rivers can turn into a frustrating day.
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05-06-2012, 03:11 PM #5
Thanks for the info Neckdeep,"You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit
05-07-2012, 08:11 AM #6
I'd say ND has it pretty well nailed.
If you're looking to come to the JH valley to fish the Snake, plan July 15th on. This year we should have and early start to the summer season but if you're paying to come, don't mess around and plan when the fishin is good.
Check out Spotted Horse Ranch, (Hoback River - cool horse packing trips and guides hit the Green quite a bit. Right on the Hoback and 5-10 mins from canyon stretches of the Snake). They are likely reasonably priced. Most of the other all inclusive, (lodging, eatin' and fishing), are pretty pricey dude ranch type places. If you want to go big, try Lost Creek Ranch.
My best advice would be to stay or camp somewhere else and use a guide service for the fishing. Talk to Baker at Westbank Anglers or Scott Smith, http://ssflyfish.blogspot.com/ , (Jack Dennis Fishing Trips - NOT Jack Dennis Sports, that's a different deal.)
The South Fork, Henry's Fork and the Green, (in WY), will have better camping options than the Snake in JH. See ND's advice for the SF and HF. The Green has excellent camping opportunities which can be made into multiple day floats if you want to. You car(s) can be shuttled to each takeout/camp. That's a D.I.Y. deal though.
Feel free to PM me if you'd like further assistance.
05-07-2012, 08:47 AM #7
I may PM you with some additional questions, but my big pussy question right now is, what about Bears ?!!"You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit
05-07-2012, 09:02 AM #8
Just be prepared and aware and you will be fine.
05-07-2012, 09:21 AM #9"You damn colonials and your herds of tax write off dressage ponies". PNWBrit
05-15-2012, 03:35 PM #10
similar topic...gonna be in town June 23-39 with the wife and inlaws, negoatiated in a float day for me. green river at that point a good call? anyone have guide recs, i'd love to use someone on the board if possibleDay Man. Fighter of the Night Man. Champion of the Sun. Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone.
05-16-2012, 09:13 AM #11
Check you pm box. Info you need should be there.
05-16-2012, 04:04 PM #12
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05-16-2012, 09:18 PM #14
yeah that would work too!Day Man. Fighter of the Night Man. Champion of the Sun. Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone.
05-17-2012, 08:44 AM #15