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Thread: Praxis WooTest review
05-03-2012, 08:04 PM #1
Praxis WooTest review
My thoughts on what we ended up with.
If you're one of the folks that got a pair, chime in.
05-04-2012, 01:11 PM #2
Great review, and now I have to keep telling my self I don't need these. Thanks glad this happened, love the original protest and remember thinking a narrower version would be cool
05-04-2012, 01:54 PM #3
Excellent review, I appreciate your candor.
As a Protest owner (and lover) these skis have intrigued me from their inception.
-good on you for making them happen
I look forward to what comes out of Praxis in the future, knowing that my current bc skis have at least another year of trashing left.
05-05-2012, 03:55 PM #4
I really wish we had a better winter to get more days on them. I agree with every thing in the review. The plates add versatility for in and out of bounds. Detune the shit out of them and seek out the untracked. I detuned in 3 stages and wish I would have just hit them hard the first time. Multiple passes with the panzer at 45* from contact points is the way to go. The edges come way to sharp to start.
I think part of the weirdness in the afternoon has to do with just how easy they are to ski. They are just so easy to pivot and turn that when the tip gets engaged on chunder it can toss you around faster than you can react to it. Big straight fast turns were the best at avoiding the weirdness. Slower, shorter turns were where I found myself lacking some confidence.
I found committing to them 100% and staying forward decreased the weirdness as did keeping the speed up. The couple roundhouse days we skied showed me this. Once I got them up to speed they were much less reactive to the chunder. They can't hook if you don't turn!Drink to remember not to forget!
05-05-2012, 05:13 PM #5
Thanks for the proper review, k-woo. Sorry to hear they didn't kill zipper crust. How about phonebook wind funk?
Talking tail rocker/splay. Are you talking they need more of a flipped up tail, or more splay starting further back near the heel piece?
05-05-2012, 05:17 PM #6
As far as the tail goes, not so much higher just starting closer to the foot. They'll probably end up being a little higher but not much. Just one part of a pretty noticeable 'all tail' feeling on firmer snow.
05-05-2012, 05:28 PM #7
Got it, thanks man. Sound good. More splay is ok with me, more twin-tip flipped tail at the end of the splay is not.
05-05-2012, 05:44 PM #8
Nah, definitely just a deeper splay. The intent is still a bc 'skiing forward' tool. I'm looking for a little versatility as far some resort capacity but switch pow landings isn't really part of that.
05-05-2012, 06:00 PM #9
Any more details on the limits of 'performance' on surfaces like unbreakable re-frozen rained on snow, and hard frozen crust that has been scoured clear in the alpine?
Obviously I do not need it to perform on that, just get by, say up to 30 degrees.
Oh yeah, and this one got a laugh:
Tweaking the flatter tail would help beginners like Jonathan really see the potential of the design
05-05-2012, 06:58 PM #10
05-06-2012, 01:22 PM #11www.blistergearreview.com
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05-06-2012, 08:18 PM #12
That's why jesus invented mountain bikes.
05-07-2012, 11:08 AM #13"I knew in an instant that the three dollars I had spent on wine would not go to waste."
05-07-2012, 11:15 AM #14
Cool review - good to hear the project worked out!
05-07-2012, 02:17 PM #15
Maybe I missed it, but did you ever play with the mounting point? (a while back, you mentioned that you might do some swiss cheese experimenting)
05-07-2012, 03:06 PM #16
Had mine mounted at 101.5 and 99.5 from the tip.
Definitely preferred the 99.5.
Sorry I forgot to mention that.
05-11-2012, 11:01 AM #17
From the picture posted in the blog, your mount looks way too far forward on the sidecut. If you have a a lot of tail on the snow and big rocker tip, they're going to ski like shit, right?
05-11-2012, 11:58 AM #18Registered User
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Did you miss the part where kidwoo said he remounted 2 cm forward and prefers it to the original mount?"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
shroom put it best: "Man, you're one biased motherfucker."
05-11-2012, 05:07 PM #19STRAVA: Enabling dorks everywhere to get trails shut down........ all for the sake of a race on the internet.
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05-15-2012, 12:18 AM #22
Everyone I know who has a pair of these has skied plenty of rockered skis brand new out of the plastic. I can't stress enough just HOW sharp these things were tuned. It's my own dumb fault because I've gotten some skis like this from Praxis in the past but still........these ain't your normal production tune. Really. All of us can ski those just fine, no matter how rockered.STRAVA: Enabling dorks everywhere to get trails shut down........ all for the sake of a race on the internet.
05-15-2012, 01:19 PM #23
05-15-2012, 02:14 PM #24
FWIW, the ski is great. Only problem is the flat tail. Yes, the ski is sharp but I'm used to detuning the shit out of my skis anyway. Nothing new for me.
I'll likely add some rocker to the tail and call it a day. Problem is the skis mount may be close to the center of the sidecut (way close enough anyway) but is not centered in the rocker. more rocker in front than behind makes for some funny catchy feelings at unexpected times. I expect this will be changed for next year.
05-15-2012, 03:09 PM #25?
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Do you still own and ski your 186 Legend Pro's ?Own your fail. ~Jer~