Thread: Is Ron Paul actually winning?

http://communities.washingtontimes.c...ll-challenge-/

This paints a much different picture of the real delegate count for Colorado. The final breakdown looks like this:

Romney – 13

Paul - 13

Santorum – 7

At large – 3 (count these for Romney if he is still the frontrunner in August)

According to Fox News, Missouri’s GOP leadership admits that Paul may get all of the delegates from Missouri.

The Iowa GOP leadership has previously acknowledged that Paul may win Iowa as well. Iowa holds its state convention on June 16.

It's all about the delegates.

Here in WA we were skunked in the 5th district, but took all the delegates in other districts. Once we have our state convention delegates to the national convention will be elected. Unsurprisingly the msm is reporting our delegates as romney delegates, when they haven't even been elected.

Depending on which way Santorum delegates go Ron Paul could conceivably win this thing.

I've got huge respect for Ron Paul and his essential philosophy, but I can not for the life of me understand why he continues to align himself with the Repungnentcan Party. WTF??? The repubs stand for everything that Ron Paul stands AGAINST. Why? --

Apparently you cannot fix errors when using a flip phone to post with....I meant ''Repugnantcan''. Maybe ''Repugnanican'' sounds and looks better. --

No...''Repugnican''. That's it! Eureka!! Yes! ''Repugnican''.

Originally Posted by Alaskan Rover

I've got huge respect for Ron Paul and his essential philosophy, but I can not for the life of me understand why he continues to align himself with the Repungnentcan Party. WTF??? The repubs stand for everything that Ron Paul stands AGAINST. Why? --

Easy. There are more libertarian minded Republicans than there are libertarian minded Democrats.

Most repubs may be against some of what he stands for, but most Democrats are opposed to his entire philosophy.

I can edit posts on my android, so you should be able to.

Keep believing the fantasy. Paul might get a few more delegates then reported, but Romney is your candidate.

Not only is he winning, he's actually already won the general election and is currently president. There was a secret inauguration that the Lamestream Media doesn't want you to know about. Run Ron, run!

There are actually quite a few libertarian "democrats", most democrats I know at least. If you value personal freedoms above all else, you have to go democrat since the Republican Party has aligned itself with the religious right.

In order of importance for me it is a) personal freedom; b) environmental stewardship; c) limited military engagement abroad to protect national security; d) sustainable business development and support of new technology and entrepreneurial opportunities.

Of the two parties, democrats align most with my values.

I think most welfare systems needs serious overhaul and a hard look at the goals and effectiveness of such programs. I am anti-union for America. China may need them but we are past that stage. For all those blabbing about how republicans support business, that is a load of shit. Most of the republican policies support big business, often trying to squash the ability of new businesses to enter the marketplace, something I am very much against.

I would likely vote Republican if they weren’t in bed with big business corruption and the religious right. But they made that bed and they have to lie in it or reinvent themselves before I will see the benefits of adopting their policies.

Originally Posted by Rip'nStick

There are actually quite a few libertarian "democrats", most democrats I know at least. If you value personal freedoms above all else, you have to go democrat since the Republican Party has aligned itself with the religious right.

In order of importance for me it is a) personal freedom; b) environmental stewardship; c) limited military engagement abroad to protect national security; d) sustainable business development and support of new technology and entrepreneurial opportunities.

Of the two parties, democrats align most with my values.

I think most welfare systems needs serious overhaul and a hard look at the goals and effectiveness of such programs. I am anti-union for America. China may need them but we are past that stage. For all those blabbing about how republicans support business, that is a load of shit. Most of the republican policies support big business, often trying to squash the ability of new businesses to enter the marketplace, something I am very much against.

I would likely vote Republican if they weren’t in bed with big business corruption and the religious right. But they made that bed and they have to lie in it or reinvent themselves before I will see the benefits of adopting their policies.

Interesting. You mean personal freedom for EVERYONE? Or just people you agree with?

Voting Dem pretty much shows that you don't even understand what personal liberty means.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

Voting Dem pretty much shows that you don't even understand what personal liberty means.

Women's right to choose is not a personal liberty?

Originally Posted by Rip'nStick

There are actually quite a few libertarian "democrats", most democrats I know at least. If you value personal freedoms above all else, you have to go democrat since the Republican Party has aligned itself with the religious right.

In order of importance for me it is a) personal freedom; b) environmental stewardship; c) limited military engagement abroad to protect national security; d) sustainable business development and support of new technology and entrepreneurial opportunities.

Of the two parties, democrats align most with my values.

I think most welfare systems needs serious overhaul and a hard look at the goals and effectiveness of such programs. I am anti-union for America. China may need them but we are past that stage. For all those blabbing about how republicans support business, that is a load of shit. Most of the republican policies support big business, often trying to squash the ability of new businesses to enter the marketplace, something I am very much against.

I would likely vote Republican if they weren’t in bed with big business corruption and the religious right. But they made that bed and they have to lie in it or reinvent themselves before I will see the benefits of adopting their policies.

I agree, except would add that the GOP is something I can't support because they are anti-science...but perhaps if they dropped the religious right pandering and the pro-big business only stuff they might accept scientific reality.

GOP is also anti-personal freedom by trying to influence freedom of speach via censorship of the media. Although there are those on the left that do that as well, I think Mrs. Gore had some crazy censorship inititive back in the day that she was trying to sell to the public.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

Voting Dem pretty much shows that you don't even understand what personal liberty means.

So Rip'nStick doesn't actually want personal liberty because his definition of the term is different than yours.

Irony train coming in at full steam.

Originally Posted by Rip'nStick

For all those blabbing about how republicans support business, that is a load of shit. Most of the republican policies support big business, often trying to squash the ability of new businesses to enter the marketplace, something I am very much against.

I would likely vote Republican if they weren’t in bed with big business corruption.......

If by that, you are inferring that the Democrats are NOT ALSO in bed with big business corruption, I want somea what you're smokin'

Originally Posted by powpig

If by that, your are inferring that the Democrats are NOT ALSO in bed with big business corruption, I want somea what you're smokin'

I agree that both parties are influenced greatly by big business, but IMO the GOP is more so. In the choice between the lesser of two evils, the dems edge out the GOP. Evidence is GOPs desire to strip all regulation away from business, anti-taxation to help society, anti-union, anti-environmental regulations, etc.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

Interesting. You mean personal freedom for EVERYONE? Or just people you agree with?

Voting Dem pretty much shows that you don't even understand what personal liberty means.

Great arguement!

You are too stupid to engage.

Originally Posted by toast2266

So Rip'nStick doesn't actually want personal liberty because his definition of the term is different than yours.

Irony train coming in at full steam.

It just shows the massivness of his hypocracy. He has no iterest in individual freedom for people he disagrees with. He thinks Christians are not allowed to inform their votes with their beliefs. He thinks Rich people don't have the same rights to the fruit of their labor as other people do. He's an intollerant covetous bigot.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

It just shows the massivness of his hypocracy. He has no iterest in individual freedom for people he disagrees with. He thinks Christians are not allowed to inform their votes with their beliefs. He thinks Rich people don't have the same rights to the fruit of their labor as other people do. He's an intollerant covetous bigot.

ughh trolled again. Hey DBT vote for Charles Manson, I don't care, you goddamn idiot. man oh man are you stupid

I am fine wtih Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, heck anyone sticking to their beliefs and voting for them. I simply vote against those that would limit my personal freedom to practice whatever religion I want to (IN MY OWN PLACE OF WORSHIP or as I wish in public) and let women chose to control their reproductive rights without infringing on others rights. Vote your ass off, I am simply saying I often vote for democrats because they don't restrict those rights.

And how the hell did you think that I don't want the rich to enjoy the fruits of their labor? I am doing pretty well for myself and definitely enjoying it. Big business is the only way to have rich people? Tell that to Zuckenberg and teh rest of the new money. I am against big business styfling innovation and support government investment in R&D.

Once again, I don't care how you vote, I'll just vote for what I believe in. People like DBT will go extinct. Already well along the way.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

He's an intollerant covetous bigot.

Yep that's me.... fucking idiot. Good example of how the republican party lost it's way. Idiots like you.

Originally Posted by powpig

If by that, you are inferring that the Democrats are NOT ALSO in bed with big business corruption, I want somea what you're smokin'

No certainly both parties have their fair share, but maybe it is the gotcha, liberal biased, mainstream media but the republicans seem to have been more involved in the corruption at the military industrial complex (halliburton, etc) and energy (enron) than the democrats. I have spend my working life in both of those industries BTW and am in no way morally opposed to them.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

Interesting. You mean personal freedom for EVERYONE? Or just people you agree with?

Voting Dem pretty much shows that you don't even understand what personal liberty means.

You know, the concept of liberty outlined in the Patriot Act that your crew installed.

Originally Posted by splat

You know, the concept of liberty outlined in the Patriot Act that your crew installed.

...and that your crew kept going.

OK lame-os - one more time: Big Business and Big Government are in bed together. This way strupid libs can vote against Big Business and stupid conservatives can vote against Big Government. Either way the Bigs can go on screwing you irregardless. What else are you bleating sheep gonna do? Vote for a crazy person like Ron Paul?

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

I agree that both parties are influenced greatly by big business, but IMO the GOP is more so. In the choice between the lesser of two evils, the dems edge out the GOP.

Openly supporting evil, as you just espoused, is what's got us into the situation we are in today.

Originally Posted by Jer

OK lame-os - one more time: Big Business and Big Government are in bed together. This way strupid libs can vote against Big Business and stupid conservatives can vote against Big Government. Either way the Bigs can go on screwing you irregardless. What else are you bleating sheep gonna do? Vote for a crazy person like Ron Paul?

Yup. Classic Divide & Conquer tactics. If you vote Dem or Rep, you're supporting the status quo. Don't pretend otherwise, just own up to it people.

Originally Posted by Alaskan Rover

I've got huge respect for Ron Paul and his essential philosophy, but I can not for the life of me understand why he continues to align himself with the Repungnentcan Party. WTF??? The repubs stand for everything that Ron Paul stands AGAINST. Why? --

While I personally don't believe it's worth saving, Ron Paul wants to save the Republican Party

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0..._1394927.html?
(Video at link)

Ron Paul: 'I'm Trying To Save The Republican Party'

Ron Paul is not only still running for the GOP presidential nomination; he's "trying to save the Republican Party."

"The truth is, I'm trying to save the Republican Party from themselves because they want perpetual wars, they don't care about presidents who assassinate American citizens, they don't care about searching our houses without search warrants, and these are the kind of things people care about," Paul said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

Responding to a question about whether he'd continue running for office, he said, "The votes haven't been counted. ... There's no way I'm going to quit speaking out on this, and there's no way I'm going to give up on the effort to get the Republicans back to their roots."

The Texas representative also criticized the way that Republicans, as well as the Obama administration, have been handling the Afghanistan War.

"It was a waste, there's not gonna be a happy ending, and I think the Republicans have dug a hole for themselves because they're trying to out-militarize the president, say 'we should do more.' Yet 75 percent of the American people say 'we've had enough'," he said.

A recent poll showed that support for the war in Afghanistan has hit an all-time low among Americans. Sixty-eight percent think the war is going badly, and 69 percent think the U.S. should not be involved anymore.

Paul attacked Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich for not offering alternatives to the war.

"The other Republican candidates offer nothing more than a continuation of a status quo or actually increasing the militarism we have around the worst, so I think that's a losing position," he said.

Originally Posted by hutash

Keep believing the fantasy.

Right back atcha.

Keep believing the fantasy that Obama gives a shit about any of us despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary

Originally Posted by powpig

Right back atcha.

Keep believing the fantasy that Obama gives a shit about any of us despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary

I was referring to the fantasy that RP was actually winning, or even had a chance.

Show me where I have said Obama gives a shit about us. He is just the best of a bad lot, including RP and some of his wacky ideas, (others are not so wacky, but I just can't take the old coot seriously.)

RP is history, he didn't even get repped in the opening parody on SNL last saturday. Even Newt got some love, stealing peanuts because his campaign is broke.

More wins in Oklahoma. Looks like Ron Paul may win a good amount of delegates there as well.