Thread: Racism and the Right

Originally Posted by OSECS

I write the same shit ? This is the second time you've posted the handie in the woods post.

“You're still the goto guy for tips,” dumbass. I'm sorry if you were offended. You’re not all bad, neither. After all most guys can't pull off wearing suspenders with cut offs. Most guys.





By the way…..how do you castrate a man where OSECS is from? Kick his cousin in the mouth.

Originally Posted by hutash

This.


It's fuck heads like Derdyshire, ilc, crass, and DBT, that perpetuate racism. Their post show their intolerance, which intentionally or unintentionally are passed down to their kids who then keep the cycle going.

The main reason so many minorities are racists is because of the years of being shit upon by the dominate group made up of people like the above who rational their racism.

Your stupidity and mistunderstand of how the races are and how they get along is so amazingly infantile and childish it shows you have no real experience with how people act and think in given situations.

Look. I could care less what you think. I gave one of many, many examples where I've been screwed with for no reason just for being white. As far as passing down racism, I guess the fact that my family is not racist at all (hence they didn't pass crap down) and letting my kid play with our black neighbor is what you call perpetuation. The only racist thing he learned was the "chinese eyes" crap that little kids seem to say and it was from the black kid. I got on my son's ass hard and made it clear that that shit was unacceptable. I made him realize it wasn't the asians fault for his heritage and saying things like that would make the kid feel REALLY bad. I have never said anything derogatory about any race in front of him. I don't want him to repeat stupid generalizations and when he gets older race is going to be less of an issue. I'm the same way with religion around him. If he asks me about god or the bible, I tell him he needs to talk to mom casue she knows more about it. You idiots have no clue what you're talking about half the time but just assume what you know is gold. I used to be vehimently anti-racist and hang out at shows with anti-racist skinheads at shows, bars, etc. I actually apoligized and made excuses for them to all the people who asked me how I was not racist after being attacked be that many black people who, BTW, acted like fucking animals. Decent humans don't get in numbers of 50 to 100 and jump people for no reason.

Now if you want to talk and apoligize for blacks being racist against whites that's your own stupidity at work. Do you realize your typical black person is racist against not just whites but also other blacks who are more dark, other blacks that aren't dark enough, Africans who got in the country in the past 10 years (they don't act the same), they sure don't like all the black Samalies, Mexicans, asians, you name it, etc. Are you really that out of it that you didn't know that. Did you really think they just hated whites?

I was one at a party where a group of black gangsters showed up and took over the radio and generally pissed people off. There were a lot of white people and about 10 black guys. Being my idealistic self at the time, I tried to break it up and that almost backfired on me. I stopped some shit before it got any worse but one of the black guys in the car told me not to come any closer to the car or he would stab me. I told him I was just trying to help break things up. Little did I know his friend had been stabbed and he was protecting him in the back seat. No good deed seems to go unpunished. This was in suburbia at a house party. They had obviously pissed enough people off at their school trying to play gangster in the suburbs. Not trying to downplay them because they're in most suburbs and most moved from the cities so they have REAL connections.

Think what you want of me. I have simply seen and been part of some crap that changed my worldview to some extent. I can assure you that if you walked in my shoes you might think a little different and be a little less trusting cause you wouldn't be as naive.

Edit: And I do feel sorry for nice black people and like them plenty. I've met and partied with a lot of cool black people - poor and well off. It's too bad the most of black America work so hard to make the rest of their respectable, articulate brethren look so bad. Those are the people who probably get looked down on by white people as well as most black people. Make too much money then you are an uncle Tom. Being successful in school or life is not looked highly upon in the poor black neighborhoods. They can get their ass kicked for that too. Their typical battle and the rarity of them trying to do well in school so they aren't the poor doesn't reflect well on them -- and then they bitch. Why do other minorities (or even newly imegrated blacks) tend to do better than blacks? It has nothing to do with their ability to learn cause I'm sure they're smart. They have a victimhood mindset and instead of moving forward and trying to do well, they want to keep their victimhood so you all will defend them while they try to do nothing for themselves to get themselves ahead and rely on prison and welfare to take care of them.

It's amazing the depth of knowledge here on TGR and everybody can't open the eyes, see the forest for the trees, and quit being so damn PC. Sorry but at some time they got to let go of the fact that their ancesters were slaves (not them) and as northerner, my ancesters fought and died for their black ass to be free. Sorry I didn't do shit to them and neither did you but you still feel sorry for them and don't think they should show any kind of responsibility for where they are in the world. Again, why are other races more successful? Could it be that their parents instilled some honor in them. It' not my fault that half the black families are so fuct up. And I'm not going to take responsibility for it or feel bad for those who don't.

Originally Posted by archer

“You're still the goto guy for tips,” dumbass. But I'm sorry if you were offended. You’re not all bad, neither. After all most guys can't pull off wearing suspenders with cut offs. Most guys.By the way…..how do you castrate a man where OSECS is from?


Kick his cousin in the mouth.

Not much you can post that'll offend me, so flame away, I'm sorry ...... you already are flaming apparently. I appreciate the flattery, but really man the only handies I've ever given were self inflicted.

I mean I know what works for me, but you really should take things into your own hands, unless you're just really set on getting a handy from another guy. Then you maybe just need to place an add on Craigslist or something like that.


Now about this homo erotic fantasy you have with a guy in cut offs and
suspenders..........

Originally Posted by OSECS

Not much you can post that'll offend me, so flame away, I'm sorry ...... you already are flaming apparently. I appreciate the flattery, but really man the only handies I've ever given were self inflicted.

I mean I know what works for me, but you really should take things into your own hands, unless you're just really set on getting a handy from another guy. Then you maybe just need to place an add on Craigslist or something like that.


Now about this homo erotic fantasy you have with a guy in cut offs and
suspenders..........

Wait – I didn’t get a “Harumph.” Tho I do appreciate the argument....but with you it's sort of like how Nickelback re-invents itself and is still able to remain as douchey as ever.

BTW, I'm just jokin' about the south cause' there's a lot of culture and what not. For example, it's so sexy when a southern woman says "WalMart" it sounds like "Warm Heart."

Is it true that Alabama only puts numbers on their helmets because they can't read "Alabama?"

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...is-hanson?pg=1

....In contrast, white tea-party conservatives, to my knowledge, have not expressed any worry that the accent or cadence of a Herman Cain (or of, say, a Clarence Thomas) was different from their own. They apparently are less apt to equate talent or aptitude with a predetermined brand of diction or mannerism, far more ready to appreciate authenticity and candor that accrue from practical experience in the workplace. To a conservative, someone who fought in the fierce arena of private commerce deserves respect in a way that someone establishing race as essential rather than incidental to his character, in hopes of garnering state advantage, does not.

Who, then, in the Tea Party, cares that the businessman Cain does not sound like a Yale academic, or that the crease in his pants might be not so straight, or that he cannot excite tics in cable anchormen’s legs? For tea-partiers, race is irrelevant: Being a Godfather’s Pizza CEO apparently is proof of greater accomplishment than a long political career, an Ivy League degree, or a distinguished tenure on Wall Street.

In short, Obama’s economic agenda has hurt blacks most of all. And his desperate efforts to deal with that fact have set race relations back decades.

Originally Posted by archer

Wait – I didn’t get a “Harumph.” Tho I do appreciate the argument....but with you it's sort of like how Nickelback re-invents itself and is still able to remain as douchey as ever.

BTW, I'm just jokin' about the south cause' there's a lot of culture and what not. For example, it's so sexy when a southern woman says "WalMart" it sounds like "Warm Heart."

Is it true that Alabama only puts numbers on their helmets because they can't read "Alabama?"

Harumph ??? Is that your code name for a guy on guy hand job ? Please stop it ain't gonna happen, you're just embarrassing yourself now.

Nice crack on Alabama, but I really don't know what to say about the Walmart thing I need to think about that one, not a lot of experience on the Walmart front. I'm a Costco man myself.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

....In contrast, white tea-party conservatives, to my knowledge, have not expressed any worry that the accent or cadence of a Herman Cain (or of, say, a Clarence Thomas) was different from their own. They apparently are less apt to equate talent or aptitude with a predetermined brand of diction or mannerism, far more ready to appreciate authenticity and candor that accrue from practical experience in the workplace.

True. When Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Party got mad at Herb Cain for calling Perry insensitive for his family's Niggerhead ranch Cain went back to reassuring Republicans on race by saying the name was actually no big deal. Tho I still think Rush shouldn't have let Herb off that easy. Rush should have made him come on his Show, and do a little song and dance, something by Al Jolson perhaps?

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...is-hanson?pg=1

....In contrast, white tea-party conservatives, to my knowledge, have not expressed any worry that the accent or cadence of a Herman Cain (or of, say, a Clarence Thomas) was different from their own. They apparently are less apt. Yes, they are.

From a recent Polyassfisted writerof the National Review who shares the underlying reality to the above BS pretense. Derbyshire's Conservative Rulesabout their own blacks:

13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.

Originally Posted by Moeghoul

From a recent Polyassfisted writerof the National Review who shares the underlying reality to the above BS pretense. Derbyshire's Conservative Rulesabout their own blacks:

13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.

What reality do you live in? (13) is just reasonable until you get to the last part of the last sentence. There's nothing wrong with being friends with blacks and especially those who actually try to do good in society. The part about being there friend as a gain is TOTALLY retarded but I didn't write it. In (14)The last half is rediculous but the beginning just makes sense to some extent. While I certainly think it's a WAY over the top and nothing you should really worry about, there is this little thing called affirmative action where blacks who aren't as bright get hired simply because they are black. That is called racism. Government supported racism that is actually pretty dispised by successfull blacks who feel like they got their job because of their brights and don't want to be looked at as someone who is the token black (yah like on South Park). I can certainly tell you that in the technology branches such as engineering, there are a lot of people who get in there not due to their intelligence. I've been to school with them. Lots of woman and minorities get into school and get preferencial treatment for jobs even with a worse GPA. One example of how bright these rocket scientist are would be a black chick chick in my intro circuits lab. I liked her and tried to help her but it got to be too much. First exercise was to measure the voltage of a battery with a voltmeter. Wow it's pretty easy to measure the positive voltage, Crass, but how the hell do you measure the negative voltage drop. Ummm, turn the fackin battery around and measure it from opposite ends. Yah affirmative action is really helping out. Maybe it had it's place years ago but it's time has come and gone.

I think this pretty much covers it.

Originally Posted by Crass3000

What reality do you live in? (13) is just reasonable until you get to the last part of the last sentence. There's nothing wrong with being friends with blacks and especially those who actually try to do good in society. The part about being there friend as a gain is TOTALLY retarded but I didn't write it. In (14)The last half is rediculous but the beginning just makes sense to some extent. While I certainly think it's a WAY over the top and nothing you should really worry about, there is this little thing called affirmative action where blacks who aren't as bright get hired simply because they are black. That is called racism. Government supported racism that is actually pretty dispised by successfull blacks who feel like they got their job because of their brights and don't want to be looked at as someone who is the token black (yah like on South Park). I can certainly tell you that in the technology branches such as engineering, there are a lot of people who get in there not due to their intelligence. I've been to school with them. Lots of woman and minorities get into school and get preferencial treatment for jobs even with a worse GPA. One example of how bright these rocket scientist are would be a black chick chick in my intro circuits lab. I liked her and tried to help her but it got to be too much. First exercise was to measure the voltage of a battery with a voltmeter. Wow it's pretty easy to measure the positive voltage, Crass, but how the hell do you measure the negative voltage drop. Ummm, turn the fackin battery around and measure it from opposite ends. Yah affirmative action is really helping out. Maybe it had it's place years ago but it's time has come and gone.

The conservative premise is "we are colorblind". 13 and 14 suggests otherwise. It's not as if this was something unique or unusual or unheard of from them. As the Mittster said, some things are better left to low voices in quiet rooms. Affirmative action wasn't a guarantee that minorities had to have the same GPA or ability as everyone else. It was an effort to find the best qualified within that group and give them an opportunity. Rather than condemning the program because of your experience, it would make more sense to view it over time and whether the successes of the program outweighed the failures. It's a sad statement that after a 300+ year of discrimination, slavery and unspeakable abuses, that making some reasonable effort to correct that only gets a shelf life of 50 years and as a result of some failures its time to roll back the clock.

Addit: Crass, I'm not invalidating your personal experiences and observations. I just think it has to be critiqued more broadly. If the effort was noble but misguided and failed, then it makes sense to change it or get rid of it.

Originally Posted by Moeghoul

The conservative premise is "we are colorblind". 13 and 14 suggests otherwise.

Well conservatives may have some premise that they are colorblind, I've never heard it expressed anymore than the left which I believe are not colorblind either. In a perfect society everybody would be colorblind. I would rather get along with everybody much like I did when I was 16 and hadn't had too many bad experiences that made me think I better rethink some of the things I do and the people I trust. Realistically at this point in life I don't trust too many people without knowing them or knowing someone to vouch for them as I trust my friends judgement. To be truthful, I get into it with way more white people than I do of any race which is partially because of the places I go as much as the places I know to stay away from.

Your right, parts of 13 and 14 are pretty screwed up. I didn't write them and the guy who did is obviously more worried about race for reasons unknown to me. I have no idea who he is. I have no idea if he just was taught to hate or he learned through socialization such as getting his ass handed to him. It's easy to think you can paint everybody with the same brush but reality isn't that way. It should be pointed out that the guy may not be colorblind but he is certainly not the KKK or insert your favorite white seperatist group here. He seems racist but not over the top as far as those types go. Is he hiding his real, deeper racist beliefs for public consumption like most hate groups do? I don't know. Believe it or not, there is A LOT of wierd overlap in these types of groups. For instance, I know a person who a guy who used to be a Northern Hammerskin (like 15-20 years ago. I met him as a punk-rocker who had a huge mohawk so I had no idea he was making the change until it was done although I heard rumors. These days he is in with the KKK. Wierd thing is he has black friends on his Facebook page and the last time I was over there we went out for a cigarette tons of blacks were outside and he got along with all of them even though there is no possiblity of them no knowing he is really racist. Some people have relationships of convenience either as a means of staying out of the violence or many times drug sales trump racism. I don't seek these type of people out and rarely hang out with them as many would like to kick my ass as much as anybody else but in the past I used to sell them quite a bit of shit. Most of my racist friends in groups know enough not to even talk about racism around me. Any that I do know also know my friends and know it doesn't take much to get their head kicked in. The last one that got out of line got his face broken with a single punch and had to have mesh put in his face. All I can say is this world is quite a bit more complicated than people might think. Racism sucks but it doesn't start from just one side. I could give you many, many examples but that would get boring and quite frankly I don't think a lot of people would believe some of the shit I've seen.

Originally Posted by Crass3000

Your stupidity and mistunderstand of how the races are and how they get along is so amazingly infantile and childish it shows you have no real experience with how people act and think in given situations.

Look. I could care less what you think. I gave one of many, many examples where I've been screwed with for no reason just for being white. As far as passing down racism, I guess the fact that my family is not racist at all (hence they didn't pass crap down) and letting my kid play with our black neighbor is what you call perpetuation. The only racist thing he learned was the "chinese eyes" crap that little kids seem to say and it was from the black kid. I got on my son's ass hard and made it clear that that shit was unacceptable. I made him realize it wasn't the asians fault for his heritage and saying things like that would make the kid feel REALLY bad. I have never said anything derogatory about any race in front of him. I don't want him to repeat stupid generalizations and when he gets older race is going to be less of an issue. I'm the same way with religion around him. If he asks me about god or the bible, I tell him he needs to talk to mom casue she knows more about it. You idiots have no clue what you're talking about half the time but just assume what you know is gold. I used to be vehimently anti-racist and hang out at shows with anti-racist skinheads at shows, bars, etc. I actually apoligized and made excuses for them to all the people who asked me how I was not racist after being attacked be that many black people who, BTW, acted like fucking animals. Decent humans don't get in numbers of 50 to 100 and jump people for no reason.

Now if you want to talk and apoligize for blacks being racist against whites that's your own stupidity at work. Do you realize your typical black person is racist against not just whites but also other blacks who are more dark, other blacks that aren't dark enough, Africans who got in the country in the past 10 years (they don't act the same), they sure don't like all the black Samalies, Mexicans, asians, you name it, etc. Are you really that out of it that you didn't know that. Did you really think they just hated whites?

I was one at a party where a group of black gangsters showed up and took over the radio and generally pissed people off. There were a lot of white people and about 10 black guys. Being my idealistic self at the time, I tried to break it up and that almost backfired on me. I stopped some shit before it got any worse but one of the black guys in the car told me not to come any closer to the car or he would stab me. I told him I was just trying to help break things up. Little did I know his friend had been stabbed and he was protecting him in the back seat. No good deed seems to go unpunished. This was in suburbia at a house party. They had obviously pissed enough people off at their school trying to play gangster in the suburbs. Not trying to downplay them because they're in most suburbs and most moved from the cities so they have REAL connections.

Think what you want of me. I have simply seen and been part of some crap that changed my worldview to some extent. I can assure you that if you walked in my shoes you might think a little different and be a little less trusting cause you wouldn't be as naive.

Edit: And I do feel sorry for nice black people and like them plenty. I've met and partied with a lot of cool black people - poor and well off. It's too bad the most of black America work so hard to make the rest of their respectable, articulate brethren look so bad. Those are the people who probably get looked down on by white people as well as most black people. Make too much money then you are an uncle Tom. Being successful in school or life is not looked highly upon in the poor black neighborhoods. They can get their ass kicked for that too. Their typical battle and the rarity of them trying to do well in school so they aren't the poor doesn't reflect well on them -- and then they bitch. Why do other minorities (or even newly imegrated blacks) tend to do better than blacks? It has nothing to do with their ability to learn cause I'm sure they're smart. They have a victimhood mindset and instead of moving forward and trying to do well, they want to keep their victimhood so you all will defend them while they try to do nothing for themselves to get themselves ahead and rely on prison and welfare to take care of them.

It's amazing the depth of knowledge here on TGR and everybody can't open the eyes, see the forest for the trees, and quit being so damn PC. Sorry but at some time they got to let go of the fact that their ancesters were slaves (not them) and as northerner, my ancesters fought and died for their black ass to be free. Sorry I didn't do shit to them and neither did you but you still feel sorry for them and don't think they should show any kind of responsibility for where they are in the world. Again, why are other races more successful? Could it be that their parents instilled some honor in them. It' not my fault that half the black families are so fuct up. And I'm not going to take responsibility for it or feel bad for those who don't.

First off, it is "I couldn't careless", but since you wrote a dissertation as a rebuttal I assume you do care.

It is not the blacks fault for their heritage either.

You are right, decent people don't, but it doesn't matter if they are black, white, Hispanic or something else, punks in groups are punks in groups. Don't blame it on their being black.

I am not apologizing, simply pointing out some of the reasons for reverse discrimination.

Again it is not because they are black, it is because they are gangsters or punks or what ever. Every time you call them black gangsters you perpetuate the stereotype, whether you realize it or not.

No doubt it has changed your world view, and made it more prejudiced. It is a hard thing to over come, and something we must try to do as a society. I am no Pollyanna, but if we all make the effort the world will be a better place.

To some small degree it is your fault, and mine too. I know none of us are perfect and our prejudices show in subtle was we don't even realize. I agree a lot of people carry a chip on their shoulder about past injustices, just as you are for some of the injustices committed against you lily white ass.

Another slip of the tongue by a rightie revealing they're real feelings. So much hate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...ces&ref=topbar

Originally Posted by hutash

First off, it is "I couldn't careless", but since you wrote a dissertation as a rebuttal I assume you do care.

It is not the blacks fault for their heritage either.

You are right, decent people don't, but it doesn't matter if they are black, white, Hispanic or something else, punks in groups are punks in groups. Don't blame it on their being black.

I am not apologizing, simply pointing out some of the reasons for reverse discrimination.

Again it is not because they are black, it is because they are gangsters or punks or what ever. Every time you call them black gangsters you perpetuate the stereotype, whether you realize it or not.

No doubt it has changed your world view, and made it more prejudiced. It is a hard thing to over come, and something we must try to do as a society. I am no Pollyanna, but if we all make the effort the world will be a better place.

To some small degree it is your fault, and mine too. I know none of us are perfect and our prejudices show in subtle was we don't even realize. I agree a lot of people carry a chip on their shoulder about past injustices, just as you are for some of the injustices committed against you lily white ass.

I think you get it to some extent. I think you understand or are at least trying. It's certainly not an issue I would ever wish on anybody. I wish the country could be colorblind and money was distrubuted more evenly somehow without screwing others over but we can't have our cake and eat it too. People have to be responsible for themselves instead of blaming their and their childrens future on the distant past. It's not an issue that is easy. My only problem with your response is that it is a little too general. You answered the points that were sorta easy PC things and skipped some other controversial ones. Don't get me wrong though. I don't have all the answers. I wish I did. But I just don't see this stuff getting better in the future. Gangs are aways getting more profitable and when someone moves out someone moves in to take their place. The shit is just going to get worse and ignoring things is not going to help our kids. Suburbia is part of the playing field now. There's more money in the suburbs and ususally better drugs. I respect you for even replying because it's not black and white and let's be truthful. No matter what you say is gonna be wrong in most peoples eyes.

Originally Posted by hutash

First off, it is "I couldn't careless", but since you wrote a dissertation as a rebuttal I assume you do care.

It is not the blacks fault for their heritage either.

You are right, decent people don't, but it doesn't matter if they are black, white, Hispanic or something else, punks in groups are punks in groups. Don't blame it on their being black.

I am not apologizing, simply pointing out some of the reasons for reverse discrimination.

Again it is not because they are black, it is because they are gangsters or punks or what ever. Every time you call them black gangsters you perpetuate the stereotype, whether you realize it or not.

No doubt it has changed your world view, and made it more prejudiced. It is a hard thing to over come, and something we must try to do as a society. I am no Pollyanna, but if we all make the effort the world will be a better place.

To some small degree it is your fault, and mine too. I know none of us are perfect and our prejudices show in subtle was we don't even realize. I agree a lot of people carry a chip on their shoulder about past injustices, just as you are for some of the injustices committed against you lily white ass.

Actually since youre correcting people its I couldn't care less, not I couldnt careless.

Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

Actually since youre correcting people its I couldn't care less, not I couldnt careless.

Well played sir!

...but, if you are going to correct my corrections it is you're not youre and it is it's not its

Originally Posted by Crass3000

I think you get it to some extent. I think you understand or are at least trying. It's certainly not an issue I would ever wish on anybody. I wish the country could be colorblind and money was distrubuted more evenly somehow without screwing others over but we can't have our cake and eat it too. People have to be responsible for themselves instead of blaming their and their childrens future on the distant past. It's not an issue that is easy. My only problem with your response is that it is a little too general. You answered the points that were sorta easy PC things and skipped some other controversial ones. Don't get me wrong though. I don't have all the answers. I wish I did. But I just don't see this stuff getting better in the future. Gangs are aways getting more profitable and when someone moves out someone moves in to take their place. The shit is just going to get worse and ignoring things is not going to help our kids. Suburbia is part of the playing field now. There's more money in the suburbs and ususally better drugs. I respect you for even replying because it's not black and white and let's be truthful. No matter what you say is gonna be wrong in most peoples eyes.

While I agree in general, there are still many points I take issue with. Agreed you can't keep blaming past injustices for today's attitudes, but many injustices are still being committed by racists today. They may not be as obvious as slavery, but ask any minority if they still see daily racism and nearly all will say yes.

Again the gang problem is not necessarily a race problem. Sure it perpetuates racism as you have done by talking about black gangs. My point is gang punks are gang punks. They are not in gangs because they are black (or brown et al) they are in gangs because they are punks who just happen to be black or brown.

I also do think it is getting better, a lot better. We have a long way to go, and will probably never have total equality, but that is not a reason not to try. The improvements I have seen in my lifetime are encouraging and I am impressed with the open attitudes about fairness from my daughters. Stories I hear from my mother and relations about life in Detroit mid-century tells me things much worse then, not to mention the legal racism throughout history.

If I just cherry picked the easy PC points throw me some specific challenges as I thought I addressed nearly all of your points.

Originally Posted by hutash

While I agree in general, there are still many points I take issue with. Agreed you can't keep blaming past injustices for today's attitudes, but many injustices are still being committed by racists today. They may not be as obvious as slavery, but ask any minority if they still see daily racism and nearly all will say yes.

Again the gang problem is not necessarily a race problem. Sure it perpetuates racism as you have done by talking about black gangs. My point is gang punks are gang punks. They are not in gangs because they are black (or brown et al) they are in gangs because they are punks who just happen to be black or brown.

I also do think it is getting better, a lot better. We have a long way to go, and will probably never have total equality, but that is not a reason not to try. The improvements I have seen in my lifetime are encouraging and I am impressed with the open attitudes about fairness from my daughters. Stories I hear from my mother and relations about life in Detroit mid-century tells me things much worse then, not to mention the legal racism throughout history.

If I just cherry picked the easy PC points throw me some specific challenges as I thought I addressed nearly all of your points.

Like I said. I think you must get it on some level. Your replies just don't seem to show it. I guess I could hope we can meet in the middle but I'm just seeing alot of PC stuff the sorta went around some of my points. However!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (me comprende!) you have some true good points. You're just not addressing some of the others.

Originally Posted by Crass3000

Like I said. I think you must get it on some level. Your replies just don't seem to show it. I guess I could hope we can meet in the middle but I'm just seeing alot of PC stuff the sorta went around some of my points. However!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (me comprende!) you have some true good points. You're just not addressing some of the others.

Around which points? Not addressing what other points? Throw me a bone!

Originally Posted by hutash

Throw me a bone!

Watch it, bone is just one letter away from boner and next thing you know Archer will read your post and get all excited asking you for a handie while you wear cut offs and suspenders. Disturbing imagery.

Originally Posted by hutash

Around which points? Not addressing what other points? Throw me a bone!

Jusst throwing one thre it out there. Why do most other minorities do educationally better in an integrated high school?

Edit: I mean one where the language is spoken.
Edit: I wish I couldn't make these points.
Edit: I was behind the North Korean missle fail.

Jut kidding but I just don't have the energy to talk against your points. They are just too vague and really don't take in the wholer reality. Talk to my whole posts and maybe I'll interact. Maybe I will anyway. I think you are smart Hutash so I'm not gonna dig into you.

Originally Posted by hutash

Well played sir!

...but, if you are going to correct my corrections it is you're not youre and it is it's not its

Actually that is not a typo, I have a great disdain for apostrophe use in contractions, its unnecessary. Apostrophe use to clarify possessive vs plural is good though. I'm an innovator. I'm like a great author, without the writing talent. Funny I still use one in I'm.

Conservatives are colour blind? Please don't make me laugh. Everyone knows green is the only colour that conservatives respect.

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Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

Actually that is not a typo, I have a great disdain for apostrophe use in contractions, its unnecessary. Apostrophe use to clarify possessive vs plural is good though. I'm an innovator. I'm like a great author, without the writing talent. Funny I still use one in I'm.

Since this is TGR, I guess it is acceptable to make up words or punctuation. After all, "Moran" is except in the TGR lexicon. Still, you have to use an apostrophe for it's vs its because it changes the meaning. You can ignore some rules, but not all. Next thing you know somebody will just stop using capitols.


Oops, too late for that.

Why not be bold and denounce the use of all punctuation