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    Racism and the Right

    The advice John Derbyshire (a contributor to the influential conservative magazine 'The National Review') gives to his kids:

    John Derbyshire

    (10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

    (10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

    (10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).

    (10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.

    (10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.

    (10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.

    (10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.

    (10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.

    ...

    (13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

    (14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.
    Full article here: http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_...#axzz1rC3fsLMv

    Derbyshire has a lot of fans at the National Review (although this article wasn't posted there), and he's currently putting the editors there in a hard spot. They can't shitcan him without looking to their somewhat racist readership like they kowtowed to the left, but if they don't shitcan Derbyshire it will look to any decent-minded person like they are in the thrall of their most racists readers.

    All in all, while I find Derbyshire's thoughts reprehensible, I'm glad to he put them out there. The right really needs to air its dirty laundry to get Derbyshire and his ilk booted.

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    Again, I'm not sure how you can look at the CBC, affirmative action, etc and claim the right has a monopoly on racism

    Also, to prove youre not a racist like this guy, how about you post a picture of yourself standing by a MLK boulevard street sign at midnight (preferably on oct. 30th)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikecandy View Post
    Again, I'm not sure how you can look at the CBC, affirmative action, etc and claim the right has a monopoly on racism

    Also, to prove youre not a racist like this guy, how about you post a picture of yourself standing by a MLK boulevard street sign at midnight (preferably on oct. 30th)?
    I couldn't have said it better myself. Some of the things said are just things you wouldn't do if you had a few brain cells and experience. Yah a lot of them are REALLY over the top too. But have some of your lefty buddies get in touch with me and I'll drop them off in some of these stereotypical positions and we'll see if they get out of the car. Come on MPLS lefties. Let's prove to ilikecandy that all these things are totally irrational. We can go somewhere after and I'll buy you some beers. Or you can just sit outside some of my friends apartments in North MPLS and knock on the door after you got your ass kicked. We'll supply the ice, and some beer too.

    Edit: Obviously this has to be at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crass3000 View Post
    I couldn't have said it better myself. Some of the things said are just things you wouldn't do if you had a few brain cells and experience. Yah a lot of them are REALLY over the top too. But have some of your lefty buddies get in touch with me and I'll drop them off in some of these stereotypical positions and we'll see if they get out of the car.
    ehh, i would use much harsher words than "over the top"

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    ^^^ I take it the two of you are in agreement with a large part of Derbyshire's post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thudder View Post
    ^^^ I take it the two of you are in agreement with a large part of Derbyshire's post?
    I'd say from 10A to !0E I have some agreement but I've also had 50 to 100 Crips and friends chase me at the Minnesota State Fair one time. Trust me I am not exagerating. About 10 of them gave me a boot party and more for having a foot long mohawk or just sticking out in general. So yah I'm a little more careful about where I go and what I do. It took me years to even be able to go to places with large crowds of white people. Once you've walked in my shoes then you can tell me I am an asshole or racist. Until then I can tell you there's an aweful lot of reverse racism going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thudder View Post
    ^^^ I take it the two of you are in agreement with a large part of Derbyshire's post?
    not really. i mean i'm not going to compton anytime soon, but i used to go to a bar in city heights every week. i assume you are not in agreement? so you'll have no problem producing that picture then, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikecandy View Post
    not really. i assume you are not? so you'll have no problem producing that picture?
    A picture? Come on... anybody would do that unless they were REALLY a pussy.

    And to be clear, I wouldn't put myself in those situations where I thought there could be a lot of gangsters whether they were black, white, or green. I certainly wouldn't want to be hanging out where there were too many nazis either. Those guys like to prove themselves. They'll beat anybody up for the hell of it too.

    Edit: I used to be idealistic and wouldn't have avoided any of those situations but I learned the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thudder View Post
    ^^^ I take it the two of you are in agreement with a large part of Derbyshire's post?
    Do you agree with ANY of his points?
    I've been to two state fairs and a goat fuck and never seen anything like this!!

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    He got shitcanned. Good riddance, but his stink remains at the Nat'l Review. Maybe he can grab his pea shooter and join the socialists in Sanford roaming the streets to protect whites even though the top idiot freely admits Zimmy isn't white.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1410273.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moeghoul View Post
    He got shitcanned. Good riddance, but his stink remains at the Nat'l Review. Maybe he can grab his pea shooter and join the socialists in Sanford roaming the streets to protect whites even though the top idiot freely admits Zimmy isn't white.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1410273.html
    Although I apreciate the kind thoughts (trust me I do), I just don't see the problem. Do I want my kid thinking like him? No. Do I want people not to get their heads kicked in? Yes Do you like shit sandwhiches? Well you have one now cause there is no right answer. Enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moeghoul View Post
    He got shitcanned. Good riddance, but his stink remains at the Nat'l Review. Maybe he can grab his pea shooter and join the socialists in Sanford roaming the streets to protect whites even though the top idiot freely admits Zimmy isn't white.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1410273.html
    Truth tellers must be SILENCED!
    I've been to two state fairs and a goat fuck and never seen anything like this!!

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    FEAR THE BLACK MAN! FEAR HIM!!!!!

    How would you guys feel if a Black columnist had the same rules for his children, racially opposite of course? Would you think them racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crass3000 View Post
    I'd say from 10A to !0E I have some agreement but I've also had 50 to 100 Crips and friends chase me at the Minnesota State Fair one time. Trust me I am not exagerating. About 10 of them gave me a boot party and more for having a foot long mohawk or just sticking out in general. So yah I'm a little more careful about where I go and what I do. It took me years to even be able to go to places with large crowds of white people. Once you've walked in my shoes then you can tell me I am an asshole or racist. Until then I can tell you there's an aweful lot of reverse racism going on.
    I remember reading about that state fair incident. scary stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    FEAR THE BLACK MAN! FEAR HIM!!!!!

    How would you guys feel if a Black columnist had the same rules for his children, racially opposite of course? Would you think them racist?
    Holy missing the point batman!

    Nobody is saying it isn't racist. The question is, is it accurate? And if you think it's not accurate at all, you'll have no problem producing the picture I asked for, right?

    Much like saying Africans are good at distance running, or Asians are good at math-just because something is racist, doesn't make it untrue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    FEAR THE BLACK MAN! FEAR HIM!!!!!

    How would you guys feel if a Black columnist had the same rules for his children, racially opposite of course? Would you think them racist?
    They do and they are.

    But they don't have as much reason to be afraid. People very close to Obama are easily that racist. They aren't just some guy in an opinion column,they are friends with the POTUS.
    I've been to two state fairs and a goat fuck and never seen anything like this!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikecandy View Post
    Holy missing the point batman!

    Nobody is saying it isn't racist. The question is, is it accurate? And if you think it's not accurate at all, you'll have no problem producing the picture I asked for, right?

    Much like saying Africans are good at distance running, or Asians are good at math-just because something is racist, doesn't make it untrue
    I don't know where you live, but I'll bet my surroundings include a far higher percentage of Black people. No, I'm not afraid of them. I have spent a fair amount of time on MLK Ave./Blvd. both here and in Murdermore without losing my life or property, and will likely will again. Shit, there are far "worse" areas in DC that I regularly go to for work, entertainment, food, or gasoline.

    I've been the only white person at a party and survived. I was in the middle of the Million Man March and didn't get molested. I bought my first house in "the Hood."

    Across the board I have been given more shit and felt less safe around White Trash than around poor black people. Maybe I should come up with a set of rules like the above regarding Conservative Rednecks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crass3000 View Post
    I couldn't have said it better myself. Some of the things said are just things you wouldn't do if you had a few brain cells and experience. Yah a lot of them are REALLY over the top too. But have some of your lefty buddies get in touch with me and I'll drop them off in some of these stereotypical positions and we'll see if they get out of the car. Come on MPLS lefties. Let's prove to ilikecandy that all these things are totally irrational. We can go somewhere after and I'll buy you some beers. Or you can just sit outside some of my friends apartments in North MPLS and knock on the door after you got your ass kicked. We'll supply the ice, and some beer too.

    Edit: Obviously this has to be at night.
    Obviously. Some of the libs here might dismiss this as just another nostalgic recollection of greatest hits, posters’ insecurities, tics, sacred cows and grudges but I feel the same way about "the dangerous classes" also known as the poors. Also, too, Justin Beiber fans. Also the poor Blacks.

    Just the other day I was wondering about my niece and why has no one had ever cautioned her about what can happen in a place where Justin Beiber fans greatly outnumber people with actual taste. I explained to her that was the reason we had to be careful about when we went to Chuck E Cheese. When it comes to protecting her innocent childhood, I could care less who is offended by the politically incorrect truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikecandy View Post
    Holy missing the point batman!

    Nobody is saying it isn't racist. The question is, is it accurate? And if you think it's not accurate at all, you'll have no problem producing the picture I asked for, right?

    Much like saying Africans are good at distance running, or Asians are good at math-just because something is racist, doesn't make it untrue

    It does kinda stink that school shooting sprees are the only academic category that American white kids are still #1 at. On top of which you’re right about whatever picture point you’re attempting to make. I mean comeon there’s nothing black people enjoy more than being used as beards for pasty white racists. Except maybe watermelon.

    It also kinda stinks that his screed could destroy his career for the truthful accusations of racism. Sigh. At least us conservatives can console ourselves with hoping that John Derbyshire will find a job working at Fox News soon enough.

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    Oh one racist right winger, oooooooh.

    In my experience, the right is less racist than they used to be. The only race that is now common for ultra right wingers to hate is muslims, and thats kinda understandable due to the fact that islam is fuct.

    However, I can say I have met a whole lot of liberal leaning blacks and Hispanics that absolutely hate white people.

    Also, as was already pointed out, there are different types of racism, there is racism that is the effect of individual people's racist attitudes, but there is also racism imbued in the system that gives one race an unfair advantage. It is absolutely indisputable that our system is becoming more and more prejudiced against white middle class males.




    I also find it incredibly ironic that your response to racism is to make gross (mostly inaccurate) generalizations about an entire group of people based on their political leanings. Whos the bigot again? Oh yea, liberals who preach tolerance love to hate any one who has a different world view than them. God forbid you're a gun owner, then liberals will treat you like hitler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crass3000 View Post
    I'd say from 10A to !0E I have some agreement but I've also had 50 to 100 Crips and friends chase me at the Minnesota State Fair one time. Trust me I am not exagerating. About 10 of them gave me a boot party and more for having a foot long mohawk or just sticking out in general. So yah I'm a little more careful about where I go and what I do. It took me years to even be able to go to places with large crowds of white people. Once you've walked in my shoes then you can tell me I am an asshole or racist. Until then I can tell you there's an aweful lot of reverse racism going on.
    You seem to make people want to hurt you. Really not trying to give you a hard time, but I'd look at yourself as the common demonitor in these situations instead of reading anything about race into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    FEAR THE BLACK MAN! FEAR HIM!!!!!

    How would you guys feel if a Black columnist had the same rules for his children, racially opposite of course? Would you think them racist?
    I wouldnt give a shit at all. WTF do I care?


    I think if people in general looked for ways in which they are similar to the rest of humanity things would be better. If you look for ways in which you are diametrically opposed to certain portions of humanity you will most likely succeed in convincing yourself someone is your enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    FEAR THE BLACK MAN! FEAR HIM!!!!!

    How would you guys feel if a Black columnist had the same rules for his children, racially opposite of course? Would you think them racist?
    Actually I'd think they were bigoted, not racist.

    ...and as much as I don't understand racism (I understand bigotry - that's just dim bulbs fearing what they don't know or are unfamiliar with) and think it's actually a crutch for weaklings, I also think people should be able to think what they want regardless (or irregardless) of how whacky it is. Kinda like religion.

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    Jer. Bigotry toward women is called sexism. Bigotry toward a race not your own is called...

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    It doesn't seem like there is any real solution to real or perceived "racism". You can't legislate tolerance. In a nutshell, I spent most of my formative years in Germany as an army brat. Mom's german and every chance dad and later my stepdad, both career officers, had to extend the tour overseas it was granted. I went to US schools in germany K thru 1st semester of ninth grade before moving back stateside for good. We did a 9 month stint in MD so second grade was in a parochial school. The first time I heard the N word was coming back here in Dec. 1975. While in Germany, I had friends of various shades of brown and white, the senior prom king was white, the queen was black, we didn't sit in segregated cafeteria tables the way the kids do here, or at least they did in the middle and high school I attended in the US. Looking back, I was either naive to any express racial bias or being americans in a foreign country took primacy over racial attitudes. I'm certain the military had something to do with it as well. When I look back over the years in the US, I have had substantially less contact with peeps of color in general, less out of choice and more about circumstances. I've been thru the worst parts of Philadelphia, actually peddling insurance products door to door with a buddy of mine back in the day when we had to sell a few more policies to hit the numbers. Not once did I feel threatened or felt fearful. Were there some moments of discomfort? Sure. I've been to shows with largely black or mixed audiences, no probs. There are places and situations I would avoid regardless of race. I wouldn't hang out in a skinhead bar or a hardcore biker bar. I wouldn't make the most pimpin illegal afterhours club in the ghetto my first choice for a good time. I find white racism as tasteless as black racism, think black critics saying that Barry isn't black enough. Human history is all about pissing on the weak, the different, even within the same tribe.
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