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Thread: BD Zealot vs. ON3P Jeffrey
03-23-2012, 02:12 PM #1
BD Zealot vs. ON3P Jeffrey
Time for a new pow ski set up, probably mounted with Dukes or Barons depending on prices during the off-season. I've heard great things about ON3P skis (build quality, stability, stiffness, and playfulness) but also like what I'm hearing about the BD Zealot. I have some questions about Black Diamond skis as I have heard mixed reviews regarding their build quality but also have heard some very good things. I don't think anyone has anything negative to say about ON3P as far as I can tell.
I'm looking for a medium-stiff, stable, yet playful pow ski that will be light enough to do short tours with and can bust through crud. I ski as much pow as possible, like to stay in the trees, and consistently hit booters and cliffs with speed. Low swing weight is a plus. Does anyone have experience on either the BD Zealot and/or the ON3P Jeffrey that can comment? I am open to other ON3P options like the Billy Goat or Caylor as well. I also like the looks of the Black Diamond AMP but heard it has a pretty soft tail. Any input is much appreciated!
03-23-2012, 02:29 PM #2Registered User
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I had a pair of Justice (slightly wider than the zealot) - fantastic ski, extremely light, excellent to tour on. Somehow one ski ended up breaking laterally/horizontally about 4-6 inches in front of the binding... Not clean through, but a definite internal core break. I could hear it cracking internally when applying pressure, and could feel it give.
Now, this was after a few fairly insignificant tours without any real aggressive skiing, so I can chalk it up to some kind of major manufacturing defect.
I'm now on the Amperage (full warranty replacement)... which is an incredible ski. It is fairly soft overall in the great scheme of things, but it's the tail rocker that gives me the 'soft' feel.
I honestly think that Black Diamond produces extremely high quality stuff... however just like any brand, sometimes something is broken out of the box, and stuff will break if abused. That said, I find myself purchasing based on the reputation of the brand, and quality of ride and features, rather than the perceived quality. Finding other stories online of people breaking stuff is just confirmation bias. I'd rather hear how easy the company was to deal with for fixes and customer service, than a couple random stories online.
03-23-2012, 02:34 PM #3Registered User
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From ON3P's line, I'd go for the new 191 BillyGoat Tour. Not a huge fan of BD skis, but it's been a few years since I've been on them. And I did hear their skis have improved significantly during that time.
For me, 186 Renegades with dynalook plate would be the way to go. But that's a heavy ski to have a Duke/Baron binder on, and maybe too wide for the east coast anyway."Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
shroom put it best: "Man, you're one biased motherfucker."
03-23-2012, 08:05 PM #4
Comparing the Zealot to the Jeffrey is... confusing. They're completely different skis... how did you settle on these two?
Zealot is directional, Jeffrey is a twin-tip and therefore, more playful.
03-23-2012, 08:33 PM #5
what shorty said....was thinking this as soon as I read the title.
jeffery= more like moment PB&J. a lil jibby, do all ski with tip and tail Rocker
Zealot= more like XXL or ON3P Wren. GS sidecut with tip rocker, fall line charger
but whatevahthank you jerry
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03-26-2012, 08:23 AM #7
I'm 5'10" 175 BTW and would probably go for 182 Zealot / 186 Jeffrey. 182 may be a tad short but I'm not sure the 192 would suit me better in EC treeskiing which is mostly what I do besides the annual western trip.
03-26-2012, 08:59 AM #8
03-26-2012, 11:43 AM #9Registered User
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