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  1. #1
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    Some new shin bang insight.

    So I have had a few run-ins with shin bang this season, and I thought I would report the results.

    First off I was skiing way, way, way backseat for quite awhile and then when that got paired with jumping, then I got shinbang. Only in my left shin though. Which made me wonder why just one leg? Sure maybe it was because of the fact the I am right dominant (hand and foot,) but not entirely.

    After thinking for a bit, I realized 2 things got done a lot with my right foot and not with my left. 1.) Shifting motorcycles 2.) Playing Rockband and stomping the bass drum pedal tons. So do some toe-lifts or toe-taps or whatever the hell you wanna call them, but work those shin muscles pre-season. Any mags out there that ride a lot of downhill bike and get shin bang? Just curious? Seems that that was the only other activity that I experienced it with.

    So I figured I would try to do some research, i.e. TGR search Jong Engine. I found stuff about shims, pads, full-tilts, ski lessons and the like.

    So my plan went as such: Pads can be made for free, so I used a beer coozie cut so it was just one layer of material. We all know once you get shinbang, its hard to stay front seat because it hurts. The beer coozie made a big difference and also helped tighten up the boots a bit (which was very noticable) and I didn't have to crank the buckles down quite as much and had better control. I did this in both boots because symmetry seems like a good idea, even though I didn't have shin bang on the right side.

    The next idea that I had was that if the tighter fit around the boot tongue helped the problem, then getting the fit even tighter (within comfort,) would be better. So in the course of conversation with a co-worker I bought a set up Booster Straps™ of the medium/stiff (not world-cup) flex and started using those. I put them on around the upper part of the boot shell and use them to snug the tongue up before tightening the velcro power strap (which ends up below the booster strap.)

    It worked out well, after a few weeks of being really conscious of staying front seat and not having to deal with the pain of the shin bang, it allowed it to heal and helped me develop better habits in skiing. Your situation may be much worse. If so, try icing and massaging the shin muscles. Worst case just stop skiing unless it's a Pow day and let things heal.

    Now I can just ski with the booster straps and no padding in the boots and I don't have shin bang unless I do something stupid to deserve it. Even then, it's pretty damn rare and when I feel even a twinge of it I keep the beer coozie handy in my pocket, just in case, but I haven't had to use it except for PBRs as of yet. Usually just feeling the discomfort is enough to get me to tighten up my form to decrease the pain.

    Overall a success. Just my 2 cents. Hope it helps.

    Here's an article I found from some boot shop on a website with another similar idea that kind of sparked my interest: http://blog.coloradoski.com/2012/02/...ing-shin-bang/

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    probably from the old lady who wacked you with her poll when you tried to sneak in on the ski school line at beginner chair again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    probably from the old lady who wacked you with her poll when you tried to sneak in on the ski school line at beginner chair again.
    Damn.... busted.... again....

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    Had my first run in with some shinbang this year. I think it has to do with riding AT boots (Technica Cochise and BD factors) as daily drivers. I also was in a 29 and a 29.5 and think I should be in a 28.5. Think I do a little too much backseat driving as well, especially with drops. Big pussy about going over the handlebars. Hate to say it but I may go with a 28.5 salomon SPK Pro although I don't ride park. They seem like the cushion I need with a 110 flex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    probably from the old lady who wacked you with her poll when you tried to sneak in on the ski school line at beginner chair again.
    He was just following in the footsteps of the His Holiness the GSA and training for Alaska...

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    Try keeping your wallet in your front pocket so you don't have reach so far back to get it!!

    I had shin bang my whole first year, then I learned to pressure the tongues of my boots and have been pretty shin bang free for two years now. It only rears its head when I backslap a drop or something that causes me to go really back seat.

    Tightening boots more than necessary doesn't seem to help just cuts off blood flow and exacerbates total pain and discomfort in the feet. Finding boots that fit properly fixed most all pain issues I have had. Turns out I have narrow feet. Went all my life thinking I had wide feet, turns out I am a B width. Good thing that doesn't translate to other stuff!!

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    to be honest with you....

    shin bang is mostly for gapers who have one or both (mostly A):

    A) Your boots are too big
    B) You aren't stomping shit and have really bad style

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    booster straps w/ an intuition liner fitted your foot.and drop down 2 sizes from your shoe size on that ski boot. thats what works for me.

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    What's shin bang??? Must be one of those skier things I don't understand....carry on....
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    luffskijong - this is either tech talk or gimp central material cause I'm pretty fuckin sure nobody here thinks your shin bang falls in the home page stoke category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    luffskijong - this is either tech talk or gimp central material cause I'm pretty fuckin sure nobody here thinks your shin bang falls in the home page stoke category.

    Uh, I'm stoked he has shin bang, or chin bang, maybe even finger bang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by luffski View Post
    I realized 2 things got done a lot with my right foot and not with my left. 1.) Shifting motorcycles
    Besides being in the obviously wrong forum, I'm curious about what bike you're riding that has the shifter on the right side. I know they're out there, but they're pretty old/rare.
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    Does shin bang still exist today? I always thought the remedy was a shot of penicillin

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    Shin bang is microscopic cracks in the bone from it being bent back too much.

    Get out of the back seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    luffskijong - this is either tech talk or gimp central material cause I'm pretty fuckin sure nobody here thinks your shin bang falls in the home page stoke category.
    Sorry Splat. I just hear people bitchin' all day everyday about shin bang when I ski/work. Seems like it would be a stoke worthy post if it helps someone ski better. Maybe I'm wrong with posting it here, but why take the time to make a "pretty fuckin" smartass remark and not file the post correctly?

    Apparently you must not share the same respect for me that I have for you. Did I miss something?

    Thank God you redeem yourself by producing quality skis and for introducing me to Starbucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    Besides being in the obviously wrong forum, I'm curious about what bike you're riding that has the shifter on the right side. I know they're out there, but they're pretty old/rare
    Ummm, yeah I was stoned when I typed that post. All bikes/atvs I have ever ridden were clutch/shift on left and brakes on the right. Nevermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    Besides being in the obviously wrong forum, I'm curious about what bike you're riding that has the shifter on the right side. I know they're out there, but they're pretty old/rare.
    ^^^^this
    Going where the wind don't blow so strange
    Maybe on some high cold mountain range

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    Quote Originally Posted by luffski View Post
    Apparently you must not share the same respect for me that I have for you. Did I miss something?

    Thank God you redeem yourself by producing quality skis and for introducing me to Starbucks.
    You gots the serious butthurt after everybody here spent the last month reaming you like Ving Rhames when he got bent over by The Gimp.
    Quit being so sensitive and sack up and maybe next year we'll stamp your man card.
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    all in favor of SFB re-assuming conservatorship of luffski say "ay"...or "GSA"

    1. stop tail gunning

    2. get smaller boots

    3. tell your co-workers to stop tail gunning and get smaller boots

    4. wrong forum, JONG
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    Ay....GSA!
    We don't make the snow. We just make it more enjoyable.


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    Graduating gaper...mmmm No
    Failing pounder......yup

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    Fuck ur shin bang!!


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    Your feet are different sizes and you sized your boot off your larger foot. Thats why your only getting it in one shin. It more than likely has nothing to do with you riding bikes or playing too many video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hott Butt Mud View Post
    Fuck ur shin bang!!

    haha skittle kids!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarveMan View Post
    Shin bang is microscopic cracks in the bone from it being bent back too much.

    Ummm..no. Shin bang is not a stress fracture, not even close. You are right about staying out of the backseat though.

    Shin bang is really a muscle and or tendon strain. Being in the backseat causes you to fire your anterior tibial is muscle to try to lever yourself forward. The force on this muscle creates a strain. Then the more you are in the backseat the more you strain the muscle....shin bang.

    Standard muscl strain treatment applies, and possibly a boot that fits....staying out of the backseat generally cures this as long as the muscle is allowed to heal.

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