Thread: One thing I don't get about this Zimmerman/Martin thing

Originally Posted by Moeghoul

Trayvon Martin Case: Enhanced Police Video Shows Injuries On George Zimmerman's Head

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1397022.html

No bruises or cuts on Travons hands is not a good thing for Zimmerman. I hope crime scene photos would have been taken of Zimmerman and Martin. Cuts and scrapes would show up immediately, but would blood even clot to produce a bruise in a person dying within seconds of a bruise inducing injury ?

I'm sure most, if any, medical treatment records/notes, photos and other evidence is for the grand jury and won't get released anytime soon; not much else is going to be considered reliable info until later in the month or whenever the GJ decides to indict or not.

Originally Posted by OSECS

Can you explain the rights use of misdirection with regard to this story ? I'm pretty sure the original
Story was a more liberal view of the situation along with some key omission of fact, skewing of images of the parties involved and a fairly fault riddled time line of what was and what wasn't done.

Misdirections like the deliberate dissemination of a falsified “gangsta” photo sourced from Stormfront on various news sites is just one example of the knee-jerk type of tribalist signaling that many say the Martin family supporters are also guilty of.

Although it’s mostly prejudicial, it's reasonable for people to respond to initial reports by questioning their history since the two fought in a life and death struggle, that is, to wonder what one was suspended for? Does either have a criminal record? Wondering is only natural. In contrast, the police initially told Trayvon's family and the Sanford community that Zimmerman had a, “squeaky clean” record while ignoring an arrest for assault and a restraining order for domestic violence.

But what is the relevance of Trayvon's hoody? What is the relevance of him wearing a tank top? Quoting rap lyrics? A child’s unguarded musings are not justification for being pursued and slaughtered on the street. Yet for a lot of people, what they subsequently learned about Trayvon somehow justified Zimmerman's actions. It’s as though extra melanin adds 100 pounds, 6 inches, drugs, a cudgel and a motive. It’s also what was not said; that even though the kid had been suspended, he also played sports, participated in a summer aviation program and was busy with SATs & planning for college.

I don't think Zimmy was a "racist" in terms of wanting to go out and kill minorites or belonging to some KKK kinda group or even endorsing that kind of blind hatred. His racism was confined to stereotyping a young black male he didn't know, wearing a hoodie and walking around his neighborhood after dark. He had a preconceived notion that Martin was prolly up to no good, that about 50% of black males are or have been thru the criminal system and that there had been a rash of break ins in the community, prolly assuming they were all black. Now you add in his wannabe cop mentality, maybe a chip on his shoulder and seeking the notoriety of being some kinda local hero, well, it was bound to happen. He doesn't appear to be too bright, so he makes up for it with a deputy dawg mentality and a gun.

Originally Posted by Triage

The deliberate dissemination of a “gangsta” photo sourced from Stormfront that wasn’t Trayvon Martin on various news sites is just one example of the knee-jerk type of tribalist signaling that many say the Martin family supporters are also guilty of.

Although it’s mostly prejudicial, it's reasonable for people to respond to initial reports by questioning their history since the two fought in a life and death struggle, that is, to wonder what one was suspended for and does either have a criminal record. Wondering is only natural. In contrast, the police initially told Trayvon's family and the Sanford community that Zimmerman had a, “squeaky clean” record ignoring an arrest for assault and a restraining order for domestic violence.

But what is the relevance of a hoody? What is the relevance of him wearing a tank top? Quoting rap lyrics? A child’s unguarded musings are not justification for being pursued and slaughtered on the street. Yet for a lot people, what they subsequently learned about Trayvon somehow justifies Zimmerman's actions. It’s as though extra melanin adds 100 pounds, 6 inches, drugs, a cudgel and a motive. It’s also what was not said; that even though the kid had been suspended, he also played sports, participated in a summer aviation program and was busy with SATs & planning for college.

I can't or wouldn't argue with any of your points. I'd only say that the ends don't justify the means with regard to the media shit storm of known false or misleading information and out right distortion of the facts in many cases. Regardless of the outcome.

Moeghoul, I'd say your description probably close to the truth in many ways.

Originally Posted by OSECS

I can't or wouldn't argue with any of your points. I'd only say that the ends don't justify the means with regard to the media shit storm of known false or misleading information and out right distortion of the facts in many cases. Regardless of the outcome.

Moeghoul, I'd say your description probably close to the truth in many ways.

Move this thread to the Padded Room. It's not a political discussion.

Originally Posted by Adolf Assbush

Move this thread to the Padded Room. It's not a political discussion.

OK, dumbass - 'cause ya know PolyAssHat is all about political discussions.

....don't want to cunt up PolyAssHat.

Can someone please change the title of this abortion to:

One of the great number of things I don't get about this Zimmerman/Martin thing


Very well then, carry on.

I had no idea that car jackings never resulted in death for the car owner.

My point, which has gone so far over the head of a few of you is that if you act like a thug pos you may die like a thug pos. (Not remotely suggesting tm was a thug).

K2dipshit, go hang out with dex. You 2 are about the same speed. Slow. As molasses.

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Remind me what a "thug pos" looks like.

Because he was acting like he was minding his own business and going home in this case.

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I had no idea that car jackings never resulted in death for the car owner.

Not never but at about a likelihood to be not worth worrying about....

This overwhelming fear of "thug pos" tells far more about the fearer than the fearee.

Originally Posted by k2skier112

If you shoot an unarmed person, the shooter gets shot in the head in leass than 48 hours. No need for wasted $ in the judicial system, no wasted money in incarceration, simple and elegant really.

If you think Zimmy was right in puuling the trigger then people like you with guns are whats fucked in this counrty with the NRA and the 2nd Amend.

Hmmm...Zimmy's a liar...noooooo.....

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...-2-experts-say

You're a fucking idiot. I really have no dog in this fight as I think the majority of posters in this thread, and people reacting to this story in general are choosing to believe skewed narratives that fit into their world view, depending on whether they believe 'brown people (or liberals)' or 'gun nuts' are the bigger problem in our society. The facts really don't support either story very well, and its the court's job to figure out the truth, not a bunch of hand wringers on the internet. Perhaps you can help them though, since you obviously have a crystal ball.

However, youre still a fucking idiot. Once you start hurting other people, your rights go out the window, armed or unarmed. If I see someone getting raped, I am damn well going to try and stop it. If the rapist looks like someone I could subdue without causing serious harm to, I might try and do that, but the only two hard and fast rules in such a situation are I am not ok with letting someone get raped in front of me without doing anything to stop it, and the second is that that while I am ok with risking my life to a certain extent to save someone from being raped, I am not ok with risking my life just so mr rapist doesnt get hurt when I stop him from hurting someone else. If it looks like i can take the guy, I might try, but I am not trained in unarmed combat and although I don't carry a gun, I'd most likely look for a weapon of some sort to give me every advantage, and if the guy looked like someone that I had no realistic hope of defeating without killing him, I would do my very fucking best to kill him, as quickly as possible.

Everyone is born with equal rights, but the moment you start infringing on other peoples rights to not be raped, hurt, placed in fear for your life, etc, is the moment your rights start to matter a whole lot less than the people you are hurting.

Originally Posted by Ripzalot

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So its totally politically correct if I put the above picture on a t shirt with the caption "Confrontational Nigger" right? everyone cool with that?

Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

So its totally politically correct if I put the above picture on a t shirt with the caption "Confrontational Nigger" right? everyone cool with that?

There you go again, looking for a reason to "need" to carry a gun.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

There you go again, looking for a reason to "need" to carry a gun.

WTF are you talking about? I'm just pointing out that its racist for that african american gentleman to wear a shirt with a term derogatory to whites on it, just as if I were to wear a shit with a term thats derogatory to african americans. There is a double standard.

I dont carry a gun and I dont look for a reason to. You're retarded arent you?

I'm guilty of profiling. I thought you could wear it because your name is Leroy Jenkins.

Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

You're retarded arent you?

Only for a few minutes at a time after reading your contributions here.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Not never but at about a likelihood to be not worth worrying about....

This overwhelming fear of "thug pos" tells far more about the fearer than the fearee.

Where did you get anything about fear from? I never suggested even remotely anything about fear. Tip, reread my post. I clearly stated tm was not even remotely a thug pos. See fdwear thread for what thug pos look like. Its a matter of actions much more than look anyway.

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Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

WTF are you talking about? I'm just pointing out that its racist for that african american gentleman to wear a shirt with a term derogatory to whites on it, just as if I were to wear a shit with a term thats derogatory to african americans. There is a double standard.

Yes it's racist to wear a shirt like that. Has anyone said it isn't?

Originally Posted by The AD

Yes it's racist to wear a shirt like that. Has anyone said it isn't?

That can't be right....can it? It'd mean Leroy's point was pointless?

And leave him looking silly...

Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

just as if I were to wear a shit

I like my concealed carry permit 'cause now I can keep a loaded 9mm in my truck as long as it's not visible from the outside. I hardly ever actually keep the gun on me when I'm in a public place, except maybe just to piss off liberals. I mean - they'll never know, but it's kinda fun to go to Barnes and Nobel and look at all the snooty fags slurping down their $5 coffee and imagine how they'd piss thier pants if they knew an evil firearm was in their midst.

Keep in mind that I never go to big cities. If I did I'd carry all the time. People are freaky and most of them should be shot.

Plus, I always have a knife on me and that is considered a concealed weapon. Thank god for sanity.

Originally Posted by Jer

but it's kinda fun to go to Barnes and Nobel and

Tell them they spelled the name of their store wrong?

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Tell them they spelled the name of their store wrong?

It's actually Barns & Nobel. it's a Agri-biz store with a porn rag section.

Originally Posted by PNWtwit

Tell them they spelled the name of their store wrong?

omg - total pwnage..


If you're gonna post here at least try.

Originally Posted by Moeghoul

It's actually Barns & Nobel. it's a Agri-biz store with a porn rag section.

Ah. Makes sense now. Thanks.

I wondered why there'd be a book store in Wisconsin. Didn't they make the readins illegal?