Thread: One thing I don't get about this Zimmerman/Martin thing

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

And the Latinos too? Just to be careful.

Per the OP?

Hispanic =/= latino. PM AA for details

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

Hispanic =/= latino. PM AA for details

Very complicated.

I don't know how you lot keep it all straight.

Originally Posted by Crass3000

The shit is only gonna get worse until, like in large cities, whte gangs form to protect their neighborhoods and it's the wild west everywhere. And I'm not talking about Nazis, Skins, etc. Black gangsters know you are scared of them (as I have said they are like a pack of animals) and know they can do just about anything they want cause they work together and we puss out. White people don't stick up for their neighbors. They go inside and hope you are OK after the fact.

Nobody is saying violent crime in America is not a real problem but as far as things getting worse according to the FBI the rates for rape, robbery, aggravated and simple assault, and homicide are 1/3rd what they were two decades ago and the overall rate is the lowest in almost half a century.

Originally Posted by Triage

Nobody is saying violent crime in America is not a real problem but as far as things getting worse according to the FBI the rates for rape, robbery, aggravated and simple assault, and homicide are 1/3rd what they were two decades ago and the overall rate is the lowest in almost half a century.

^ that's pretty specific.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Very complicated.

I don't know how you lot keep it all straight.

this is just scratching the surface. nothing like the geordie/brummie/scouse/chav endless mess

How do chicanos fit in?

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

this is just scratching the surface. nothing like the geordie/brummie/scouse/chav endless mess

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The other 14% said they hadn't been to prison yet.

Originally Posted by The AD

Good point, Crass. We should all just shoot first and ask questions later.

I'm not saying people should shoot people but that other people need to stand up and see there is a problem. When someone in the neighborhood has a problem people should step up and help. Not necessarily with a firearm but you wouldn't need one if everybody stuck together. They would go somewhere else until someone did the same. Right now all we do is watch people be victimized and then talk about it later instead of getting involved. My neighbors would at least givem the heads up for who to watch out for like the meth house on the end of the block and all that good stuff. They just didn't want to get involved. All I'm saying is if you don't get involved sooner or later people are going to see your block like easy pickings and people are gonna have to stick up for themselves.

Originally Posted by Triage

Nobody is saying violent crime in America is not a real problem but as far as things getting worse according to the FBI the rates for rape, robbery, aggravated and simple assault, and homicide are 1/3rd what they were two decades ago and the overall rate is the lowest in almost half a century.

Wonder if that has anything to do with conceal carry laws and the deterrant.

Edit: But I sure hope you aren't saying things in the future won't get worse. Population spread and gangs spread. Try to get a decent place in Chicago without paying out your ass. The gangs just keep growing further into the suburbs and the suburbs keep growing too. Sooner or later there isn't gonna be as much money for police. There already isn't enough and they get laid off a lot. At some point there isn't going to be any more room to build suburbs to keep away from all the gang bullshit. The gangs are already in practically any suburb in MPLS/STP. I'm sure it's the same way all over the country.

As the saying goes, "If there were no cops, who are you gonna call a meth-head when somebody breaks into your hous."

Originally Posted by The AD

How do chicanos fit in?

quite well, in East LA

Originally Posted by Crass3000

Wonder if that has anything to do with conceal carry laws and the deterrant.

PM Trayvon Martin?

Originally Posted by Crass3000

Wonder if that has anything to do with conceal carry laws and the deterrant.

It sort of defies explanation why the rate of violent crime in 2011 was down nearly 70% since the early 90s but the drop in crime rates is also true in cities like NY with stricter gun laws and limited CCW. One of the more controversial analysis is that better access to birth control and abortion means fewer unwanted children while police commissioners have attributed it to better police work. The "common sense" correlations like incarceration rates (which are down) or economic downturns (robbery rates have gone down in spite of the Recession and high unemployment) fail to shed much light on it.

Originally Posted by Triage

It sort of defies explanation why the rate of violent crime in 2011 was down nearly 70% since the early 90s but the drop in crime rates is also true in areas like NY with stricter gun laws and limited CCW. .

Yah without bringing CCW into it, Minneapolis had one of the highest murder rates/per capita in the country in the early to mid 90s. There were just tons of gang crimes during that time. Lots of people called Minneapolis, "Muderapolis" even outside the state. I put $4000+ into a car stereo and had fingerpronts (bloody ones) where they could have caught the people but there was too much crime. The cop just looked at me and said we have had ### number of murders this year. Didn't say and more than that aand wouldn't even take my police report. There was a lot of gangs of all kinds coming into Minneapolis at the time. Not sure why the crime died down so much but maybe it had something to do with all the dead people and less people on the outside.

Originally Posted by Crass3000

I put $4000+ into a car stereo

file under 20th century problem?

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

PM Trayvon Martin?

He certainly isn't going to answer back but he won't be one of the criminals in the neighborhood either.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

file under 20th century problem?

I think it did but it had something to do with 20th century gang problems which were brought up. You having a hard time keeping up?

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

Hispanic =/= latino. PM AA for details

Latin American = Spain accoring to ILC

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Latin American = Spain accoring to ILC

close. hispanic = of spanish origin according to reality (note - US govt may or may not recognize the existence of reality)

quick question - is pizza a vegetable?

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

close. hispanic = of spanish origin according to reality (note - US govt may or may not recognize the existence of reality)

quick question - is pizza a vegetable?

So what do you do with all of the Latin Americans who aren't Hispanic?

Originally Posted by Crass3000

He certainly isn't going to answer back but he won't be one of the criminals in the neighborhood either.

A prophylactic shooting?

Sweet.

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

So what do you do with all of the Latin Americans who aren't Hispanic?

same as any other latin american - let them in and give them free health care, amirite?

Things were a whole lot easier to understand when I was sure race was basically the same thing as ethnecity. This is getting confusing with all there counter-examples that are or are not true.

Originally Posted by Crass3000

I was sure race was basically the same thing as ethnecity.

That explains a lot....

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

A prophylactic shooting?

Sweet.

Right now we don't know if what he did was screwed up or if it was justified. Give the guy a little benefit of the doubt. What if the same thing he claims hapenned to you and you were under this national scrutiny.

Originally Posted by Crass3000

Right now we don't know if what he did was screwed up or if it was justified.

Do you mean Martin or Zimmerman.....?