Thread: One thing I don't get about this Zimmerman/Martin thing

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

my challenge?

It was a stupid cider in your eye "challenge". As I mentioned at the time.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

It was a stupid cider in your eye "challenge". As I mentioned at the time.

right. i believe i said something about lame excuses. i dont care how stupid it is, if a guy who i claimed didnt ski had made a similar offer, i would have taken him up on it. of course, i'm not a huge pussy, so i'm having a hard time seeing things from your perspective

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

But more importantly, these circumstances are exceedingly rare.

Exactly. The rarity of this situation is what makes people interested in this story. Internecine gang warfare just isn't going to resonate with the general public like an unarmed teenager getting shot by an adult is. It's just not. That's not racism, that's human nature.

Originally Posted by The AD

Exactly. The rarity of this situation is what makes people interested in this story.

makes perfect sense. why focus on the thousands of innocent people getting slaughtered with impunity around the country, when there's a single outlier that lends itself to race baiting?

and why talk about the hundreds of thousands getting surprise buttsex in prison on drug offenses, when the real tragedy is that oprah cant marry her lesbian lover?

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

i dont care how stupid it is

I can quite easily believe that of you.....

And I still doubt you ski.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

I can quite easily believe that of you.....

And I still doubt you ski.

but are too big a pussy to put your money where your mouth is. yes, we've got that loud and clear

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

makes perfect sense. why focus on the thousands of innocent people getting slaughtered with impunity around the country, when there's a single outlier that lends itself to race baiting?

Basically because you've got to pick your fights. And "thousands of innocent people getting slaughtered..." what the hell are you talking about?

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

makes perfect sense. why focus on the thousands of innocent people getting slaughtered with impunity around the country, when there's a single outlier that lends itself to race baiting?

and why talk about the hundreds of thousands getting surprise buttsex in prison on drug offenses, when the real tragedy is that oprah cant marry her lesbian lover?

Sadly, people tend to avoid addressing real, difficult problems. This whole thing is a drop in the bucket compared with the horrible things occuring around the country and the world, but having a strong opinion on it one way or another makes people feel principled and just without actually having to do anything. Such is human nature much of the time.

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

but are too big a pussy to put your money where your mouth is. yes, we've got that loud and clear

You raised the issue of requiring money in your challenge, I just questioned whether you actually skied, no money is/or was required to prove that. There's been at least one winter since then... Can you refer me to your posts relating to your skiing since then? Of skiing with other maggots (that's kind of a community norm) of any significant contribution to the whole ..... this is a ski forum... thing?

Originally Posted by The AD

Basically because you've got to pick your fights. And "thousands of innocent people getting slaughtered..." what the hell are you talking about?

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/...ved-homicides/

"Nearly 185,000 killings went unsolved from 1980 to 2008.

Experts say that homicides are tougher to solve now because crimes of passion, where assailants are easier to identify, have been replaced by drug- and gang-related killings. Many police chiefs -- especially in areas with rising numbers of unsolved crimes -- blame a lack of witness cooperation."

Originally Posted by flyandski365

Sadly, people tend to avoid addressing real, difficult problems. This whole thing is a drop in the bucket compared with the horrible things occuring around the country and the world, but having a strong opinion on it one way or another makes people feel principled and just without actually having to do anything. Such is human nature much of the time.

What are the real difficult problems that people are ignoring?

Originally Posted by Triage

What are the real difficult problems that people are ignoring?

When I say "people", I mean the general populace. Certainly there are people working against genocide, hunger, gang violence, environmental degradation etc. Those are not the people I'm talking about.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

You raised the issue of requiring money in your challenge, I just questioned whether you actually skied, no money is/or was required to prove that. There's been at least one winter since then... Can you refer me to your posts relating to your skiing since then? Of skiing with other maggots (that's kind of a community norm) of any significant contribution to the whole ..... this is a ski forum... thing?

right. just like no balls are required for you to make your claim, just to stand behind it, which you won't do

and you make of this place what you want. me, i come here to look at pictures in the other forums, and laugh at people in this one. i dont have much use for that other stuff - i have plenty of people to ski with, and i rarely get the opportunity to take good pictures

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

Experts say that homicides are tougher to solve now because crimes of passion, where assailants are easier to identify, have been replaced by drug- and gang-related killings.

Sorry, I don't consider gang and drug related killings to be "innocent people getting slaughtered." Those people chose that lifestyle. Yeah, it's still a tragedy that so many are killed, but I'm not going to shed too many tears over gang-bangers getting popped.

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

I dont have much use for that other stuff

Oh well. That is very much your loss...

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Oh well. That is very much your loss...

If you say so. history has shown that i cant be bothered waiting for other people, and if i'm skiing lift served i'll probably see someone i know on the next chair anyway

im not sure how posting about my own skiing would help me in any way

Originally Posted by The AD

Sorry, I don't consider gang and drug related killings to be "innocent people getting slaughtered." Those people chose that lifestyle. Yeah, it's still a tragedy that so many are killed, but I'm not going to shed too many tears over gang-bangers getting popped.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-shooting.html

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/02/...t-killed-baby/

maybe "innocent" cuts the numbers below thousands, but in two seconds i just linked up more than the trayvon "tragedy"

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

im not sure how posting about my own skiing would help me in any way

maybe.... to get over yourself?

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

and i rarely get the opportunity to take good pictures

at least you post plenty for us to laugh at you

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

maybe.... to get over yourself?

eh, among many, many other things, i've made laps in light towers with mcconkey (well he didnt have any idea who i was, but he talked to me both laps-"just point it" and "back for more?", so i'm counting it)

one of many, many reasons i know exactly how bad i suck

Originally Posted by Rubicon

You made a statement, that Zimmerman had disregarded the dispatcher's directive. I asked you why, in light of the evidence, you chose to believe that instead of zimmerman's account. Now you pull this? Have you even read the 911 call transcript?

I'm starting to remember why I had you on ignore for so long.

Just for the fun of it, what point do you believe I made that needs "proving"?

This:

Dispatcher: "Are you following him?"

Zimmerman: "Yeah."

Dispatcher: "OK. We don't need you to do that. What's your name?"

Your turn. Demonstrate that the dispatcher told Zimmerman to continue pursuit of Martin.

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

This:



Your turn. Demonstrate that the dispatcher told Zimmerman to continue pursuit of Martin.

wow, logic really isnt your thing

that certainly does NOT prove your claim that he disregarded their directive

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

well he didnt have any idea who i was

Poor guy....

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Poor guy....

Dude it's SQUAW VALLEY!

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

that certainly does NOT prove your claim that he disregarded their directive

I have to agree. He was never--as far as I can tell-- explicitly told not to continue following Martin.