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    Liberty Helix losing camber

    I noticed the other day that my Liberty's have developed a new caver profile. These are the 10/11 version with Fat Head technology but no actual rocker in the design. I just had the stone ground and when I put them base to base I noted they now have an odd sort of camber profile much like the camber of the fucked up S6. E.g., they have a slight 2-3 mm separation for about 70 cm from the tip then come together for 5-10 cm then separate again for about 20 cm then come together again at the tail. Definitely NOT the profile they ha a
    I demoed the TECH TALK JONG! pro model this spring and their performance was unparalleled which is good because I ski in a wedge most of the time - bendtheski, 2011

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    At purchase. These were the regular season release so they had traditional camber. Will add photos later. Question is are they bent or blown out? Should I be shopping for new sticks?
    I demoed the TECH TALK JONG! pro model this spring and their performance was unparalleled which is good because I ski in a wedge most of the time - bendtheski, 2011

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    WTH? I Don't have any insight, but this doesn't sound right.

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    I am no skibuilder but skis are made of wood = living material. seems natural that they will decamber / change camber during their lifecycle.. or through temperature changes.
    How do they ski? Do you notice at all? It will probably not improve the ski, but I personally believe one should not get too hung up on slight camber changes. Just grip it an rip it, right?

    Maybe some of the skibuilders on here can chime in.
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    I noticed my skis do that a little when you squeeze them. I think the force of the camber is making look wrong when squeezed together or locked together with the brake arms, but otherwise, it's fine.

    just my $0.02

    One more question: ever get a core shot on them?
    No longer stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    I noticed my skis do that a little when you squeeze them. I think the force of the camber is making look wrong when squeezed together or locked together with the brake arms, but otherwise, it's fine.

    just my $0.02

    One more question: ever get a core shot on them?
    Ah, intestesting point, and question. Only, these don't have brakes on them. I've got them drilled twice and inserts embedded: FKS and Dynafits (without brakes installed). I haven't lined them up with the FKS to compare but with no pressure and just a soft line up base to base, I get the weird camber pattern. Haven't noticed them skiing wonky.

    They have a few core shots. Though all are on the edges, but no blow outs. two core shots were continuous, one size of a nickel, the other, 3/4" X 2" or so. I'll check to see if that is the ski with the odd camber.
    I demoed the TECH TALK JONG! pro model this spring and their performance was unparalleled which is good because I ski in a wedge most of the time - bendtheski, 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirotica View Post
    Ah, intestesting point, and question. Only, these don't have brakes on them. I've got them drilled twice and inserts embedded: FKS and Dynafits (without brakes installed). I haven't lined them up with the FKS to compare but with no pressure and just a soft line up base to base, I get the weird camber pattern. Haven't noticed them skiing wonky.

    They have a few core shots. Though all are on the edges, but no blow outs. two core shots were continuous, one size of a nickel, the other, 3/4" X 2" or so. I'll check to see if that is the ski with the odd camber.
    Stuck beat me to the question. Getting water into a wood core can actually warp the ski, so that might be why you are seeing a difference in camber. If someone fucked up the insert install that is also a possible way to get the core wet.

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    Has it changed how they ski?

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    Did you ski for a while with the core shot exposed? That could possibly do it.

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