Thread: Swap Plates vs. Inserts?

So I've been looking at the binding freedom swap plates and inserts, and I have a simple question, why use swap plates when you can use inserts for significantly less money?

It´s a lot more work to do inserts, so I guess that´s one reason.

Do you think a ski with 18 large holes will have the same resale value as a ski with one set of wide holes that will probably not interfere with other mounts?
are you capable of installing the inserts?
are you capable of installing the plates?
which do you think someone who is is gonna charge more for?

hahaha resale value...

Seriously though?

I've got both, for skis I'm only running one binding on I use inserts. If I want to use alpine and dynafit I like the plate. Less holes.

snow boarding it's like bead and egg fishin
all you bro

ok other than less hole is there any reason to not use inserts instead of the plate?

Originally Posted by skifishbum

snow boarding it's like bead and egg fishin
all you bro

I disagree, snowboarding makes no sense, whereas bead fishing you are matching the hatch, which makes a lot of sense.

Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey

ok other than less hole is there any reason to not use inserts instead of the plate?

Did you read my reply at all?

plates

if you might want to ever move mount points

if you have a hole conflict with previously drilled skis

if you want to sell your skis someday

inserts

if you are in love with a pair of skis and the mount point is there for good

if you want the lowest-to-the-ski mount

if you have a ski drilled once (or twice) for the same bindings you want to keep using e.g. I have an old pair of b4's that are still good and are also already drilled for salomon and d'fit so inserts would make the most sense there...

If you used the same pattern from a Sollyfit plate with inserts, they would be really close together and might weaken the ski. I've done both but only put that many inserts in skis with carbon or metal.


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plates are actually cheaper because you can use them forever

So you can use real binding screws to hold plates rather than lesser area thread on exterior thread of inserts. That was my thinking when I decided to go to plates some time ago.

Inserts are very easy to fuck up/fail IMHO.

Plates are easier to install, and do not require any taps. Less chance of fucking up the mount with place, i.e. Wider tolerance of drill hole position with plates.

Downside plates are heavier and higher. May also affect flex???

the plates, because they are made of aluminum, tend to be easier to crossthread, which you won't experience as quickly with the stainless steel inserts. just gotta be a bit more careful.

I was thinking of getting the DynaLook plate and dropping that on a ski, on inserts, that already has inserts for Duke.

I just got my dynalook plates and I am beyond stoked on them. Way lighter than I imagined.

I think this topic is pretty well covered with the above posts and various other identical threads from the past. It really comes down to personal preference - if inserts makes sense to you, and you feel confident about your ability to install them, go for it!

Originally Posted by jondrums

I think this topic is pretty well covered with the above posts and various other identical threads from the past. It really comes down to personal preference - if inserts makes sense to you, and you feel confident about your ability to install them, go for it!

Dude yo better not be insinuating that someone who has been here for over a decade and danm near 10k worth of posts is to stupid to search for shit thats been already discussed
next he'll ask what kind of boots to get
oh wait

Recently did one of each.

If money and weight are not an issue, and you want interchageabilty, plates rock. Easy install, nice product.

Once cost and weight come into play, inserts start being more attractive, if you are confident in your mounting skills. Or adventurous.

Once I am done with my touring quiver I'll have:
S3's with plates
Voodoos with inserts for Marker f12
Snoop Daddies with inserts for Dynafit

3 skis, 2 bindings, lots of choices.

inserts are not that hard to do.

plates do offer more bsl adjustment if you change bsl or want friends to borrow you skis