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Thread: It is lame to ski moguls?
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03-22-2017, 01:20 AM #301Not the best vid but worth the watch if you cheer for the old guys!
but the airs...the airs were killing me.
From Powder Mag Article:
http://www.powder.com/stories/bring-...Lklwmx8ytSA.97
The kickers seem to come up quicker and quicker every year...just casually bashing the bumbs isn't that hard - but the comp runs with airs is totally different thing! (But I guess if you do those once in a while = very good for your overall skiing?)"Average summit heights are around 1000m to 1200m but on the high glaciers of the main Lyngen Peninsula there are summits over 1400m with Jiehkkevarri being the highest at 1834m above sea level."
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03-22-2017, 07:29 AM #302
Yeah...jetski FTW.
sick sick sick
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03-23-2017, 10:26 AM #303
Hey...can one of you guys help me out with something?
I couldn't figure out exactly how you're supposed to figure time into the 60-20-20 judging format....
the USSA manual has a formula for figuring a pace time, and says speed is worth 20 points...but I wasn't able to figure how actual run time versus pace time produced a point value.
Anybody able to educate me on that?
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03-23-2017, 02:22 PM #304
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03-26-2017, 12:41 AM #305features a sintered base
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Completely fucking awesome. Seriously.
Not sure if a lot of people who casually ski bumps understand how difficult those courses can be (although the pics do make this one look a little softer than most). Way to go handing a bunch of those kids their asses. POTD, week, month, maybe year. Advance out of Provincials next year?[quote][//quote]
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03-26-2017, 12:49 AM #306features a sintered base
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Maybe...so you got the pace time by dividing course length by the constant (9.7m/s for men?), here is what I think is next: pace time would be a 6.0 out of a possible 7.5 points (so 80%). You then calculate actual times as a percentage of the pace time, which would then move that 6.0 up or down in 1% increments.
So say pace time is 100 seconds (long course)--a skier who takes 110 seconds is 10% slower, so loses .6 points (10% of 6), and gets a 5.4 in speed.
I think the above is probably right.
Or just make it a dual and forget about it.
Or get Buster to create something based on differential equations or something even scarier.[quote][//quote]
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03-26-2017, 07:47 AM #307
I like that. Thanks
Can anyone confirm or deny that's how USSA and/or FIS actually does it?
And yes, for a shwag springtime local hill mogul comp, duals would be the most fun way to go by far. Twice the kicker-building though.
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03-27-2017, 10:10 AM #308
Thanks Dex! Appreciate the positive comments. Not sure why but I was hesitant to post the footage.
Course was to spec. Super warm so the sides were soft but the ruts were huge!
At this level most kids choose the outside lines leaving the inside less skied. I was super nervous second run as I thought the bumps would be over my head. Luckily it was slipped in between runs and when I showed up they were perfect!
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03-27-2017, 01:25 PM #309Registered User
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yes
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03-27-2017, 01:41 PM #310
i realized fairly quickly for someone of my intellectual capacity that snowboarding moguls is at least not fun for extended periods and, for me, any periods. in hindsight, it seems possible that snowboarding moguls could be lame, in the possibly least judgmental connotation of that word.
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03-27-2017, 01:44 PM #311
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03-27-2017, 01:48 PM #312
i enjoyed the technical idea, but my knee was compromised before i started riding. it was apparent that moguls took more out of my knee than they were worth.
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03-27-2017, 04:26 PM #313Registered User
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No. In fact more people should ski them.
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03-21-2019, 09:22 AM #314
Spring has sprung and its mogul season!!!! (Which isnt lame...)
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03-21-2019, 09:38 AM #315
^^ Maybe it was lame in '18 only.
this was posted in another thread.
I like how even the best don't look like perfect WC bump skiers in real world bumps. Its encouraging. The zipper that Johnny hits at 2:30 looks like a WC course but otherwise, those are pretty "real world looking" irregular bumps and they all get tossed here and there, use different lines, different techniques. Cool.
I'm still pretty bad (terrible) at these but I've been focused on getting better. I've taken a lesson which helped but, really the interwebs have been fantastic. Here's wat I can tell you from the interwebs about mogul skiing:
If you can't ski moguls, you can't ski, but really they're easy. Your zipper faces the valley, and, preferably, also your chair-lift-riding audience. Its like you're a bear on a unicycle, only you're pedaling the unicycle backwards and teh seat has a spring. And you're zig-zagging while throwing a medicine ball to yourself and catching it. Oh, and your feet are next to each other instead of opposed. just pedal backwards on down the mountain, throwing the ball to yourself but, point your toes down at the top of each stroke. Like you're pushing a gas pedal down. So its like you're driving a Camaro but its a unicycle and you're a bear and throwing a ball to yourself. oh, and zig-zagging. And pedaling backwards. And lean forward, for god's sake lean forward. Then you use your edges all the time and edge hard but then you need to use a lot of pivot slips and not much edge at all while you ride the red blue green yellow line. Look three moguls ahead and "plan your route" then constantly look down at your tips to see what in the fuck is going on. Absorb. ducking bird is not absorbing, nor is it leaning forward. Just stay in the troughs the whole time but turn on top of the mogul, where its easier because you only have edges under your feet. Drift the back side of the mogul you're on but drift the mogul next to you. Slarve but carve. Wear a backpack.
I found some great tips from Lito and Johnny from Youtube. Lito teach a lot of slip in the video i saw. There's a good scene where he films his wife skiing a mogul field and he says something like 'she doesn't look like a world champion mogul skier, nor does she aspire to be one, but look how gracefully she navigates these moguls.' Lito is cool.Last edited by Jong Lafitte; 03-21-2019 at 10:14 AM.
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03-21-2019, 10:16 AM #316
It's great to see you figured it out. ^^^ Now practice for a decade and it'll come to you, slowly.
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03-21-2019, 10:29 AM #317Registered User
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Moguls = Lame
There is a reason people go out in the backcountry... to find better snow than what is left in the resort.
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03-21-2019, 10:35 AM #318
XD
I learned me moguln' skills at Killington too. In the early 2000s
Those rock hard bumps were really sweet in spring>when every run turns into moguls!
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I love moguls>though I ski the bigger ones on steeps ,that are carve-able > We do not need to Bash bumps, to enjoy moguls
fyi ..you don't see these big moguls on blue runs … Blues run Moguls are almost always to tight ,and require some bashing usuallyski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz
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03-21-2019, 10:44 AM #319
one my best runs EVER was at Alta..right under Wildcat
Caught those Huge bumps ,with untouched Pow one day..(road was closed) and the mountain was empty...3 runs in a row before skiers started showing up .. Moguls are anything, but not lame..sounds like a Lame Skier haha/ jk ..no need for prep h
ski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz
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03-21-2019, 10:48 AM #320
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03-21-2019, 11:00 AM #323
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03-21-2019, 11:10 AM #324Registered User
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People who think skiing moguls is cool probably can’t really ski big mountains in the backcountry.
Simply anecdotal, but most strong BC skiers I know don’t enjoy moguls. Some don’t even like resort skiing altogether.
Most mogul enthusiasts i see at the resort are skinny ski enthusiasts that have never been on a skin track.
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03-21-2019, 11:12 AM #325
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