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  1. #101
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    I hope to have a couple "knotches" in my belt so I'm credible someday.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by scmace View Post
    Big plus for the avalung, TSA does not accept the gas canisters for airbag packs. Travel safe every one!
    Huh? I travelled to yurp, around yurp, back from yurp (through the states), and a coupla weeks ago to vancouver with a gas cannister ABS pack. As long as you do your homework and have the right answers and documentation you can travel with them.
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  3. #103
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    Think anythings better than suffocating. Think the stats show that if you can breathe you will prob survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skibird9 View Post
    Think anythings better than suffocating. Think the stats show that if you can breathe you will prob survive.
    maybe, maybe not. on one hand it'd be nice to breathe till yer friends find ya. on the other hand, it'd suck to have all that extra time to contemplate yer fate while yer suffering from trauma or if you run out of air before help gets to you......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skibird9 View Post
    Think anythings better than suffocating. Think the stats show that if you can breathe you will prob survive.
    No the stats show that if you survive you will survive.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by systemoverblow'd View Post
    ...I would prefer not to be buried...
    Do the rest of us get to vote?
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  7. #107
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    Avalung pack....I'm in the market for a new pack and I will still buy a BD pack with an avalung .... for what I wear them for which is NARSID ( tree wells)not avalanches ......big issue up here in the PNW . I recently talked to a friend who fell in a tree well and being able to breath through his avalung while he figured how to get out was what prevented him from panicking and probably suffocating.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by irul&ublo View Post
    Do the rest of us get to vote?
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotsman50 View Post
    Avalung pack....I'm in the market for a new pack and I will still buy a BD pack with an avalung .... for what I wear them for which is NARSID ( tree wells)not avalanches ......big issue up here in the PNW . I recently talked to a friend who fell in a tree well and being able to breath through his avalung while he figured how to get out was what prevented him from panicking and probably suffocating.
    how far out from a trees trunk on average do tree wells pose a threat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icelanticskier View Post
    how far out from a trees trunk on average do tree wells pose a threat?

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    well, however you choose to measure, it would seem to me that if tree wells are potentially dangerous out there, maybe try to stay a bit farther away from them. complicated, i know

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    Yeah rog, you should stay on the EC where there are no tree wells. I would support that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icelanticskier View Post
    well, however you choose to measure, it would seem to me that if tree wells are potentially dangerous out there, maybe try to stay a bit farther away from them. complicated, i know

    rog
    Hard to do in tight trees with no other egress cept cliffing out or back up.
    I am for anything that gives one a slight advantage to stay alive and ski another day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icelanticskier View Post
    try to stay a bit farther away from them
    A far as the east coast is from them?
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    sounds like folks that get themselves into tree well/cliff out issues should pay a bit better attention to proper route finding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icelanticskier View Post
    sounds like folks that get themselves into tree well/cliff out issues should pay a bit better attention to proper route finding.

    rog

    Sounds like preaching all-knowing avalanche experts like yourself should be to avoid getting caught in avalanches.
    Drive slow, homie.

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    oh i had a pretty good feeling the slope would let go, and it did.

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    but you lacked the knowledge to mitigate it, instead choosing instead to go for a ride?

    Cool, sounds about right.

    Back to your regularly scheduled ruining of every thread you possibly can.
    Drive slow, homie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icelanticskier View Post
    sounds like folks that get themselves into tree well/cliff out issues should pay a bit better attention to proper route finding.

    rog
    I assume you have never skied a big storm cycle in the PNW. Those who have, know that the tree wells, especially at lower elevations, can be man eaters and catching a tip at the wrong time could send you into a six foot hole. However, if you ski perfectly at all times you’ll never have a problem.
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    to "z"

    eh, i just went for it. worked out fine in the end.

    you seem to not be very observant as far as the process of ruining threads go. read this page again. folks react, i react back.

    your lack of obz skills is troubling.

    carry on

    rog

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greydon Clark View Post
    I assume you have never skied a big storm cycle in the PNW.
    And long may it remain that way.....
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    plus tree wells are a bit different than avalanches. you can see the trees and if you've skied big storms in the pnw then you should know to give them a wide birth.

    rog

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    A wide berth... into the other treewell?

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    Greydon FTW.

    In no way trying to downplay NARSID (kind of a fun word to say narsid narsid narsid!), but not falling does tend to work.

    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    not falling does tend to work.
    couldn't agree more. and applies to everything

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