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07-23-2012, 11:19 AM #251Registered User
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Thanks for the info on torsional stiffness, guys. I'd love to ski the regular and the Tour back to back to see what the real differences are.
Norseman: Congrats dude! Noticed you touring on the C&D at ASS. That's quite the hefty ski to lug around. Good for you."Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
shroom put it best: "Man, you're one biased motherfucker."
07-23-2012, 07:28 PM #252
Jah, a bit much but not terrible w/ Dynafiddles. I'm relegating them to resort pow now. BG's for pow touring, something lighter yet-to-be-determined for volcanoes/corn/big days.
We'll have to do the trade/comparo for sure.
08-15-2012, 03:52 PM #253
Last edited by Lindahl; 08-15-2012 at 04:05 PM.
08-15-2012, 04:32 PM #254
sub 9lb (closer to 8lb ideal)
tip rocker, slight kick in the tail (ala Vicik or Praxis Freeride)
Do not shorten the running length too much! This is where the Praxis Yeti fails.
Turn radius of at least 25m! This is where the Tychoon (and most skis in this waist category) fail.
Medium-stiff, similar to a Vicik in overall flex.
This would be the ultimate spring touring ski IMO. Someone please build it!
08-15-2012, 05:12 PM #255
When we originally designed it, there definitely was a bit of thought going into it that it wasn't a ski that was so much for ourselves. As we build more skis that sort of progression is inevitable, but after a few months of feedback, we realized we don't do skis like that as well as we do skis that are pretty much what we want.
So we threw out the old design, slimmed it down slightly, and increased the turning radius so that it was essentially a ~95mm Vicik, which is a shape we all love.
Tychoon is now...
161cm = 121/92/111, 20.6m, EE = 133.75cm
176cm = 124/94/114, 23.6m, EE = 146.5cm
186cm = 126/96/116, 26.6m, EE = 155cm
Mounting location on the 186cm got moved back 1.5cm from where people were initially skiing it (vicik too), so as a directional ski, I feel the balance is definitely improved. Plus it charges a lot harder.
I should have know we were going to be left missing something when we were drawing up a directional, 186cm ski with such a small radius, but we definitely saw the error in our ways. I think for some people, it would have been the right ski as is. But...that skis already exists 50 times over right now and people looking for that ski don't tend to buy our skis anyway.
So for the 186cm Tychoon...
95-100mm underfoot - 126/96/116
sub 9lb (closer to 8lb ideal) - Averaging 1930 grams/ski so far (only 1/2 thru first 186cm build), so around 8.5 lbs/pair I believe. A tour layup would probably bring that down around 125-140 grams, based upon my experience with the vicik & vicik tours.
tip rocker, slight kick in the tail (ala Vicik or Praxis Freeride) - Same rocker profile as Vicik
Do not shorten the running length too much! This is where the Praxis Yeti fails. 155cm, same as 186cm Vicik
Turn radius of at least 25m! This is where the Tychoon (and most skis in this waist category) fail. 26.6m
Medium-stiff, similar to a Vicik in overall flex. Similar flex pattern, though tychoon is just slightly softer overall
As I said, it rips now. I spent pretty much a whole day on them recently at Tline and forgot how fun it was to rail a ski that skinny. Jmos do the job pretty well, but you cannot drive the tips in the same way. I am definitely much more of a fan now than I was in the fall when we were working it up.
We talked about doing a Tychoon tour but worried about interest. If there IS interest, let me know. We already have everything designed for it, just hadn't moved to put it out yet as the weight of the stock model is reasonable and I just wasn't sure we would sell enough to make it worth our while this year. If you really wanted one with a tour layup this year, I am sure I could be bothered into building it for you.
08-15-2012, 06:27 PM #256
Also, really glad to hear that you guys are sticking with the same 'feel' to continue a proper brand. It's nice knowing that if you guys have a shape that I'm interested in, I'm gonna love the ski. It's the same reason my dad has been skiing K2 for 35 years - he just loves the way they feel, and it's always the same, no matter what ski he buys.
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08-15-2012, 07:09 PM #257
^^ this. Keeping my fingers crossed they make an appearance in CO for a demo day this spring
08-15-2012, 08:11 PM #258
Nice, excellent work Scott! That will be a great ski.
I just ordered a pair of carbon Praxis Freerides for my Dynafiddle rig a few days ago, so don't think I can justify the Tychoon this year. 181 would be a more ideal length for me anyway for couloir skiing (186 will be fine for anyone normal sized, I'm scrawny). I will be ordering BillyGoats though...
Companies that build skis for real skiers and listen to their customers = awesome.
08-15-2012, 08:22 PM #259
I might even go the 176, but with the further back mount than the more center-mounted BGs, the skis will sit up higher on the pack, hopefully. We'll see.. if they bring them to a CO demo around March, then I'll try out the 176s and see if I like those or if I need more length.
Last edited by Lindahl; 08-15-2012 at 08:54 PM.
08-16-2012, 07:37 AM #260
Pulled the trigger on 186 Viciks for daily driver!!!
...Now just need to decide what binder combo to put on. 80-90% lift accessed 10-20% touring. Have BD factors. Tech, Barons, MFD w/ STH, sollyfit? Suggestions...
Can't wait until the show up!!
08-17-2012, 12:07 PM #261
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08-17-2012, 12:41 PM #262
08-17-2012, 02:39 PM #263
08-18-2012, 12:51 AM #264
Lucky I got me one of these.
Tonight was our first date and they are resting comfortably on a king sized bed somewhere close to the base of Mt Hood.
I have woken from powderful dreams of winter storms to find them turned over — obviously restless for some turns in good snow this coming winter
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08-18-2012, 08:05 AM #265
08-18-2012, 12:26 PM #266Registered User
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Ordered me some 191 Wrens
08-20-2012, 11:49 AM #267
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09-13-2012, 10:27 AM #271
The comments on first page say the Vicik now has tail rocker and a half twin. Typo I hope? Assuming a misprint, also curious if the front gets changed in proportion to the width change, or identical to 2012.
09-13-2012, 02:17 PM #272Registered User
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Tychoon tours sound VERY interesting to me...
Last edited by Stringbender; 09-13-2012 at 02:47 PM.
09-16-2012, 12:10 PM #273
Also, September Shop Update. Check out the new space and what we've built over the summer:
09-16-2012, 02:48 PM #274
I was just looking at your new shop pics yesterday, god I love to laminate shit.
I have not built a kayak in years, need to get back on that shit.
When do the BG tours get laid up?You are the mission Bob.
09-17-2012, 07:16 AM #275
I'd possibly be interested in a tychoon tour, would be nice to be able to ski the thing first though."It need not be fun to be fun." - Big Steve