Thread: 21012-13 Gear what have you seen and what are the rumors

Originally Posted by mtskier

The guardian skied fine, but is not worth $560 IMO.

Fortunately, it's $450 MAP (which is what everybody will sell it for). Same as the Duke.

Originally Posted by Lamothe

Colby

James


West


aha awsome, actually looks like a fun shape. ( the last model) to bad they shall be 1000$+

Actually between $6-700

Originally Posted by PappaG

MASSIVE link to a fuckton of photos on next year's shit:
http://freeski.downdays.eu/articles/...spo-2012-skis/

Who would have thought something could possibly be as ugly as skis are these days...at least DPS and PM Gear have some style, and don't look like your girlfriend's cat hurled rotten mouse guts all over your skis.

Oh well, who cares. It's all about the down.

Originally Posted by NWskibum

Cham series from Dynastar actually blew me away, I was spinning din for them at the SIA on snow the last couple days and had 20+ people say either the 87, 97 or 107 was their favorite ski they got on over the demo. The 97 and the 107 skied very nice and didn't really feel like a 20m radius ski. It was happy making bigger swooping turns and straight lining anything, super stable but ready to be nimble at a moments notice. the flat pintail was powerful without locking you into your turn like the LP105.

Good to hear. Love my LP115's, but it's hard to recommend them to customers unless I'm convinced they charge and have a command of traditional ski technique . . .

Glad to hear people saying they liked the Cham series. I actually heard the opposite from most people I talked to. It seems to be a pretty polarizing ski. People either really liked it or wanted nothing to do with it. Not much middle ground, kinda like the BBR.

Originally Posted by PappaG

MASSIVE link to a fuckton of photos on next year's shit:
http://freeski.downdays.eu/articles/...spo-2012-skis/

Good link. I actually like next year's Volkl graphics.

Originally Posted by ski_cartel

bca is working on a new beacon, may drop as early as nov.

Did not expect that. Makes me happy I didn't get upgrade to the Tracker 2.

Tracker 2 = iPhone 4s

Damn I wish 'everyone else' would ditch the LCD display on transceivers and run with LED like BCA is.

Originally Posted by PappaG

MASSIVE link to a fuckton of photos on next year's shit:
http://freeski.downdays.eu/articles/...spo-2012-skis/

So Salomon and Atomic are growing into each other? First the bindings, then the tracker/guardian, now that boot?

Originally Posted by SiSt

So Salomon and Atomic are growing into each other? First the bindings, then the tracker/guardian, now that boot?

My understanding is that their design departments are across the hall from one another.

Originally Posted by Johnny Drama

Glad to hear people saying they liked the Cham series. I actually heard the opposite from most people I talked to. It seems to be a pretty polarizing ski. People either really liked it or wanted nothing to do with it. Not much middle ground, kinda like the BBR.

These Cham skis are NOTHING like a BBR...

Originally Posted by SiSt

So Salomon and Atomic are growing into each other? First the bindings, then the tracker/guardian, now that boot?

what is "that boot"?

pretty sure nothing is shared aside from bindings and WC race skis.

Originally Posted by westoxified

what is "that boot"?

pretty sure nothing is shared aside from bindings and WC race skis.

Truth. The boots are nothing alike. The boots that look the same in those photos are not alike at all.

Originally Posted by zombinate

My understanding is that their design departments are across the hall from one another.

I am pretty sure that Atomic is still based in Austria, and Salomon is certainly based near Annecy. Reading the discussion about the Rocker2 115, and the Automatic would certainly suggest that in general they do not have anything to do with each other development wise.

Ok: This boot: http://freeski.downdays.eu/wp-conten...up-705x352.jpg

Ghost with a custom-shell part in the forefoot? And an Atomic paintjob?

Originally Posted by SiSt

Ok: This boot:


Ghost with a custom-shell part in the forefoot? And an Atomic paintjob?

Fixed it for ya.

Originally Posted by The Dad

Fixed it for ya.

Thnx. Did the post from my phone...

Originally Posted by SiSt

Ok: This boot: http://freeski.downdays.eu/wp-conten...up-705x352.jpg

Ghost with a custom-shell part in the forefoot? And an Atomic paintjob?

That's not a CS shell. It's Atomic Live fit. Besides having 2 buckles, and made out of plastic I don't see it being all that similar.

Originally Posted by PhiberAwptik

That's not a CS shell. It's Atomic Live fit. Besides having 2 buckles, and made out of plastic I don't see it being all that similar.

Is this LiveFit you speak of any different from CS? Please elaborate!

From what I have read Live Fit does not get custom molded to your foot. I think it just adjusts when you put it on, and as your foot flexes, and moves it continues to adjust. If this is the case I do not know how it feels to ski in a boot that is not rigid through the 6th toe area, but obviously it is different to the Salomon CS.

"Glad to hear people saying they liked the Cham series. I actually heard the opposite from most people I talked to. It seems to be a pretty polarizing ski. People either really liked it or wanted nothing to do with it. Not much middle ground, kinda like the BBR."

Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

These Cham skis are NOTHING like a BBR...

What was said is that reaction to the ski is very polarizing, like a BBR, not that the ski is like a BBR. I know everyone on this forum has a boner for the Cham skis, but there are a lot of people out there (who have actually skied them) that didn't think very much of them, in addition to the people that liked them. Different strokes for different folks.

There is also a BBR 10.0 for next year that is NOTHING like the 8.9 that is out this year or any of the Cham skis.

Originally Posted by Johnny Drama

I know everyone on this forum has a boner for the Cham skis, but there are a lot of people out there (who have actually skied them) that didn't think very much of them,

There are also people who didn't think very much of the explosive, xxl, and wrenegade. those people seem to like the bbr.

Originally Posted by 1000-oaks

Who would have thought something could possibly be as ugly as skis are these days...at least DPS and PM Gear have some style, and don't look like your girlfriend's cat hurled rotten mouse guts all over your skis.

Oh well, who cares. It's all about the down.

Other than DPS and 4FRNT, all of the skis in that link are ugly.

They're making Black Diamond's geometric design topsheets look attractive.

Originally Posted by Johnny Drama

"Glad to hear people saying they liked the Cham series. I actually heard the opposite from most people I talked to. It seems to be a pretty polarizing ski. People either really liked it or wanted nothing to do with it. Not much middle ground, kinda like the BBR."






What was said is that reaction to the ski is very polarizing, like a BBR, not that the ski is like a BBR. I know everyone on this forum has a boner for the Cham skis, but there are a lot of people out there (who have actually skied them) that didn't think very much of them, in addition to the people that liked them. Different strokes for different folks.

There is also a BBR 10.0 for next year that is NOTHING like the 8.9 that is out this year or any of the Cham skis.

I wouldn't say there are a ton of people here who even give shit about the Cham's.

when can we start talking about 13/14?