View Poll Results: Would you be interested in purchasing custom ski/ride pants?
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Maybe, with options I will post in this thread
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01-18-2012, 03:24 PM #26
I would definitely pay $275-300 for a bib that had full leg zippers (must be able to put pants on with ski boots on), inside leg vents, and were waterproof. Anything else, I'll keep rocking my Arcteryx bibs.
01-18-2012, 04:25 PM #27
01-18-2012, 04:29 PM #28
i think taping is CRITICAL for me, at least on the butt crack seam. why chance getting wet? course I'm PNW/Tahoe so there ya go...
also, the scuff guard could be kevlar weave, like steep tech?... jfost is really ignorant, he often just needs simple facts laid out for him...
01-18-2012, 04:40 PM #29
heh, and this is the problem with custom. i'd like outer vents from hip to knee (~18-20") and inner vents at the knee (6"). seam taping is nice, but not a deal breaker. mesh behind the vents can be cut out. i don't really shred cuffs, but the keprotec stuff that arcteryx uses is the best i've used. (haven't used trew's superfabric)We heard you in our twilight caves, one hundred fathom deep below, for notes of joy can pierce the waves, that drown each sound of war and woe.
01-18-2012, 05:31 PM #30Registered User
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01-18-2012, 08:45 PM #31Registered User
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- Morrison, CO
I absolutely would. I'm bigger than the average skier (did not say taller, sadly), and just a bit bigger than the average XXL stuff available from the major manufacturers.
I realize that people my shape/size don't get this way by being active, and clothing manufacturers are not going to build gigantor sizes for the handful of us that DO get out and do shit, but it'd be really pretty cool to have some good bibs in my size. Snowmobile brands do have sizes (hell, too big for me - that's saying a lot, and not a normal feeling...), but the sled-specific crap is either over-insulated or really bulky/stiff feeling. And ugly. Or all three.
I'd be stoked for a pair of my-size pants that don't suck.
01-20-2012, 07:59 AM #32
I'm going to hold up on the pics till I sew the next sample. I have added and or deleted the following based on suggestions, comments, my own thoughts and engineer's recommendation:
Added 8" interior leg vents, no netting.
Retained the outside 12" leg vents no netting.
Made the front pockets with pocket bags inside instead of outside
Zippers for front pockets no velcro
Added loops inside to attach suspenders
Could be a bit before I have the next one to sew and show. Thanks for everyone's input.
01-20-2012, 02:16 PM #33
nothing more irritating than skinning on the uptrack, all vents wiiiide open, and a pound of snow falls into your pants from a low-hanging tree limb moved by the wind and/or your shoulder. therefore mesh across the vents has been a good thing in my experience...and can be cut out for people that don't BC ski near trees.
01-20-2012, 03:04 PM #34
01-20-2012, 03:32 PM #35Minion
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Mike - I love the jacket and I can't wait to see the pants. I would also favor at least one cargo pocket on the front with a zipper and velcro.
My issue has always been inseam length. I am a pretty standard 36 waist but I am 6'3" and mostly legs. So far the only pants I found that work in the length are Volcom. I would be stoked to match a pair of your snow pants with the jacket. I also snowboard so a seam-sealed arse would be preferable.
06-21-2012, 09:08 AM #36
Have there been any developments in the last 5 months? Is it still likely to happen?
06-23-2012, 10:17 PM #37
difference in price about $125
internal pockets have approx. 40% more time and additional fabric requirements.
Final cost tba later. Pictures will be posted later in summer. I put about 40 days on a test pair of external pockets. Customers will be pleased. stay tuned...
06-24-2012, 12:21 AM #38
I want pink pants that fit like my favorite pair of jeans.. can you make me those?
06-25-2012, 06:28 PM #39
Yes, count me in, PLEASE! The ONLY pants I have ever found that work for me (15 years in outdoor retail, so I have seen a lot of pants go by) are Arcteryx Thetas in xxl short. I am a 44 waist, 29 inseam. I want a highly breathable pant. I am thoroughly self-insulated, somewhere between Emperor penguin and walrus, so I need NO fuzzy stuff or lining on the inside. Thus, the ability to spec fabric would be great. I want something stretchier and more breathable than my Thetas for touring/everyday. Plus, I will want an embroidered logo so I can schill my company (it can be smaller than yours, though ;-) I don't really care much about pockets, more likely to carry things in my jacket or pack.
06-25-2012, 07:48 PM #40
^^^ I will keep you both updated. Check this thread periodically as we get closer to winter. Pink may not be in the stars for this year
06-29-2012, 10:03 AM #41
Different colors/patterns might be a good niche market. Can you buy small amounts of odd color fabric?
07-01-2012, 10:45 PM #42
here are the colors available
i know.... subtle hues....but this is all 3 layer stuff. water proof breathable . one color is neoshell, the other one is not. i tested the neoshell fabric this past season. it is kick ass. but suffers from edge cuts. I am working on this....
Last edited by MiCol; 07-10-2012 at 11:05 PM.
07-02-2012, 03:54 PM #43
Which shade is the neoshell, and how light is the lighter one?"It need not be fun to be fun." - Big Steve
07-10-2012, 09:43 PM #44
^^^ I will post some photos in next few days. I have in hand the samples for both outer and inner pocket models. Last season I spent some time in the outer pocket model. I thrashed them hard. They kicked ass. I will report these findings and review shortly.
Today, I got the inner pocket sample finished. There are a few screw ups but im going to the snow with them when I get back to Leadville. They are extremely bad ass!
Here is what I need. I am needing to get sizes from people who want custom waist , custom inseam. I am going to start a build list. No deposits or money at this point. Simply send me an email to express interest with sizes. firstname.lastname@example.org
I will try to fish through this thread and pm's and start letting people know that I am in the information gathering phase.
I will post some pics when back in Leadville in about 2 days where my good camera is stored.
Looks like it may be the two charcoal colors only as I ended up cutting all the black for jackets.
If there is a demand for black, I will source some more.
07-10-2012, 09:56 PM #45
Last edited by MiCol; 07-10-2012 at 11:04 PM.
07-10-2012, 10:06 PM #46
This by the way is going to be the new freeride systems logo
07-10-2012, 10:31 PM #47
hell , here's some camera phone pics till I get to my good camera
(These pictures are low quality and definition)
Note any stiching that does not look straight is camera, this is highly
professionally sewn garment.
Front of knees have double fabric
The overall feel and look of the pant is much like the schoeller cloudveils of the past. the back pockets are easy to open and because of design help camoflage anyone with giant ass. big complaint about look of many pants is that most dont really take into consideration large swaths of fabric with interior rear pockets make your ass look like blue whale landed. these do not. the rear pockets break up the swath. so we have a little bit of fashionista going here on top of great features.
here is what is missing, not finished, or changing
1. interior leg vent will have wind flap (does not have one in this picture)
2. bottom of pants cuff will have snap (no snap shown)
3. zippers will have different pulls. these are ykk zippers
This is best color representation for this photo set. This also shows outside vent with flap, and pocket with zipper (note wrong zipper pulls)
These inner leg vents will have flaps so you will not see zipper (note outer leg vents are longer 12")
Outside bottom cuff note no snap on this sample (not doing velcro down here for snap. it causes pain in ass problems on the mountain)
shot of the leg powder skirt
Last edited by MiCol; 07-10-2012 at 11:00 PM.
07-10-2012, 10:47 PM #48
this pic is best representation of the true color on the neoshell
front fly and closer shot of front interior pocket with zipper ( pull will be different)
The vent zipper goes all the way up to bottom of pocket. (12")
Last edited by MiCol; 07-10-2012 at 11:16 PM.
07-13-2012, 04:21 PM #49
Also, Looks like I will have more fabric choices available for these pants.
This pant will run approximately $275 with custom waist and inseam. If you are a bigger guy like me, you can count on probably an increase of 10% or so for more fabric and more sewing time. These are being sewn in a domestic professional industrial setting.
These pictures are of the outside pocket model that I wore all last year season and thrashed as hard as I could while, skiing, skinning, bootpacking, falling, sliding down suncup boilerplate, and overall just general beating them as much as possilbe.
This is a polartec neoshell. It is not going to take thrashings quite like a heavy hardshell. But, most of the marks you see are from 1) falling on boilerplate with skis that did not release 2) from my use of asterisks knee braces under both knees at all times i.e. skinning, falling , dropping to knees to pack skis or remove skins. You pay for premium breathability.
will be using beefier cuff liners for edge strikes
Rear end and pockets same as Interior pocket model
07-13-2012, 04:30 PM #50
This model is the Inside pocket Version
Better pictures than my previous post.
Again, more fabrics will be available than just charcoal.
Beefier cuff guards. Zipper pulls different than shown. Flaps that will be covering inside vents.
Approximate price range of $375 with custom waist and inseam. Again, more if you are bigger person because of more time to sew and more fabric.
Inside and outside leg vents.
rear end and pockets same as outside pocket model