Thread: Republicans can't win irregardless

Originally Posted by jfost

so if Obama wins, your party will continue the obstruction for FOUR MORE YEARS?!?!?!??!?

since that's the case - I'll keep up my call for Obama to step down, as WHO HE IS is keeping this country(congress) from being successful.

Here's a hint - Obama's not the problem...

You are soooooo wrong about that. It has nothing to do with who he is. It's about what he is. The most progressive President in our history. America is built of individual freddom and small government ideas. Obama represents the oposite of what most American's want the country to look like. And he represents pure evil to anyone who know's what's good for us.
I would fully expecy anyone I cast a vote for to obstruct Obama's liberal agenda at every possible turn in every possible way.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

... Obama represents the opposite of what most American's want the country to look like....

this I couldn't have said better myself!

in terms of physical characteristics, he IS the "most progressive" - just not in policy... how do you explain the obstruction of policies that would ordinarily garner 100% support among (R)'s??? The (R) machine wants him out, and that's where we are until that day comes.

Originally Posted by Bunion

Hey Kook, piss off. Ever hear of Americans Elect?

I have now. Good luck with that.

I'm a kook?

Sadly, we need to change the system from within. Join the Tea Party.

Originally Posted by jfost

so if Obama wins, your party will continue the obstruction for FOUR MORE YEARS?!?!?!??!?

since that's the case - I'll keep up my call for Obama to step down, as WHO HE IS is keeping this country(congress) from being successful.

Here's a hint - Obama's not the problem...

Right. Of course he's not. And the stuff you call "obstruction", and the parties flipping sides on issues didnt happen prior to 2009 either.

Oh wait,
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...debt-ceiling/1

Hey everybody!

You have to remember that if the Republicans picked a potted plant, they still win 20 states right off the bat without even trying. Same for the Dems.

So if you live in AZ, NV, NM, CO, MT, WI, MI, OH, FL, MO, VA, NC, this election is for you. The rest of you, not so much.

And Ron Paul supporters are more delusional than Michelle Bachmann supporters. Ron Paul supporters have honestly no idea what they are talking about. Ron Paul is not a constitutionalist, Ron Paul is an anarchist.

As a homer, it is hard for me to think about things prior to Jan '09.

Also ilc, "your guy(s) did it too" has been rejected as a valid defense.

edit: you're right - as I stated before Obama IS the problem, but not for the reasons you say, but rather for the reasons you won't admit.

Originally Posted by jfost

As a homer, it is hard for me to think about things prior to Jan '09.

Also ilc, "your guy(s) did it too" has been rejected as a valid defense.

edit: you're right - as I stated before Obama IS the problem, but not for the reasons you say, but rather for the reasons you won't admit.

Right, the whole problem is racist obstructionists taking opposite positions based on who is in office

But if your hypothesis is correct, who was obama being racist toward when he voted against the debt ceiling increase?

And so has EVERY POTUS to date since Ronald Raygun...

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

Your rhetoric doesn't match your actions.

You and Obama rail against the same crony capitalists Obama enables. Then your solution is to tax everyone making $250k plus. What does that do too fix crony capitalism?

Obama has no interest in fixing ANYTHING. Quite the opposite. He only wants to get reelected and entrench government involvement in every part of business and life even deeper.

DBT=Kookster extraordinaire

Originally Posted by jfost

Also ilc, "your guy(s) did it too" has been rejected as a valid defense.

edit: you're right - as I stated before Obama IS the problem, but not for the reasons you say, but rather for the reasons you won't admit.

'They did it too' is all that homer's got, even if he has to ignore the very obvious differences.

Quite something that a president whose major policy initiatives resemble those of Nixon, Reagan, and Bush could be labelled a huge progressive (as if that's a bad thing). Hysterical shit from ILC and DBT's side.

Makes you wonder if there's something about Obama that makes him different to them. Something not related to policy but to appearance. I wonder what it could be.

Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki

'They did it too' is all that homer's got, even if he has to ignore the very obvious differences.

Quite something that a president whose major policy initiatives resemble those of Nixon, Reagan, and Bush could be labelled a huge progressive (as if that's a bad thing). Hysterical shit from ILC and DBT's side.

Makes you wonder if there's something about Obama that makes him different to them. Something not related to policy but to appearance. I wonder what it could be.

"They did it too"?

What the fuck are you talking about? Exactly what bad behavior am I trying to excuse?

Reading and writing--never a strength with you.

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

Right. Of course he's not. And the stuff you call "obstruction", and the parties flipping sides on issues didnt happen prior to 2009 either.

Oh wait,
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...debt-ceiling/1

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...%20Paul&st=cse

DES MOINES — The top Iowa adviser to Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota announced Wednesday night that he was jumping ship to support the candidacy of Representative Ron Paul of Texas.

Originally Posted by jfost

so if Obama wins, your party will continue the obstruction for FOUR MORE YEARS?!?!?!??!?

since that's the case - I'll keep up my call for Obama to step down, as WHO HE IS is keeping this country(congress) from being successful.

Here's a hint - Obama's not the problem...

My party?

Which party is that?

Obama IS part of the problem. He is nothing more, or less, than a puppet for the military industrial complex and their cohorts in the financial industry.

Originally Posted by Bunion

Hey Kook, piss off. Ever hear of Americans Elect?

Most followed potential candidate on their site? Ron Paul.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

to obstruct Obama's liberal agenda at every possible turn in every possible way.

Your pure fucking stupidity will never cease to amaze me.

There is nothing liberal about Obama. Just like there was nothing conservative about Bush. Both of them serve the same purpose. To transfer wealth to the oligarchy.

I just hope that they soon come up with a cure for the twin diseases of Republicuntism and conservatardism.


I think it should be higher on the list than the cure for AIDS, as they are FAR more dangerous to humanity.

I think they would be great projects for the WHO to work on.......and no, I'm not talking about Roger Daltry.

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Originally Posted by Pillsbury

... He is nothing more, or less, than a puppet ...

I'm not comfortable with the language you've used.

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

"They did it too"?

What the fuck are you talking about? Exactly what bad behavior am I trying to excuse?

are you going to worm out again, or did Dex getcha good? Hahhahahhahahahhahhahahahahhahahah!

"exactly what..." hahahahhahhahahhhahahahha

Originally Posted by Alaskan Rover

I just hope that they soon come up with a cure for the twin diseases of Republicuntism and conservatardism.


I think it should be higher on the list than the cure for AIDS, as they are FAR more dangerous to humanity.

I think they would be great projects for the WHO to work on.......and no, I'm not talking about Roger Daltry.

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Take the Big Black Cock out of your mouth!

Seriously though, your blind partisanship is much more dangerous to our countries political system than anything else.
People like you really suck. Republican or Democrat, I don't care. All you give a fuck about is the party. In your feeble little mind Democrats and liberals can do no bad, and Republicans and conservatives can do no good. Is everything black and white in your little world?

Originally Posted by Pillsbury

Most followed potential candidate on their site? Ron Paul.

Yep, your point being?

Just that, at this point, it looks like he could end up being their candidate if he doesn't get the republican nomination, which would, as you said before, give Obama the win.

I do like the concept of Americans Elect. I have spent a fair amount of time on the site. I was surprised to find out that, according to their own statements, Ron Paul is actually more supportive of gay marriage than Dennis Kucinich.

I like their idea of having a republican and democrat on the same ticket.

Iowa. Jan. 3 caucus. Latest polls show Romney either in the lead or tied with Gingrich and Paul.

Romney is also strong in New Hampshire. It wasn't that long ago when Romney was expected to do poorly in Iowa but was still the presumptive front runner.

With a good result in Iowa for Romney isn't it all over but the crying? For all the talk about this time being different aren't the Republican king makers still in charge? Romney now. Just like McCain in 08. Bush in 2000. Dole in the 90s.

It was fun while it lasted. With any luck the show will go on for just a little bit longer. (Go Paul! Go Gingrich!) But it won't be long before the usual cheerleaders are basically writing with every post, "Romney sucks but at least he's not Obama."


As for Ron Paul, I don't see him running as an independent. If he continues to do well then he can have a say in setting the agenda at the Republican convention but not if he leaves the party early. A favorable Paul brand within the Republican party also sets the stage for Rand running in 2016 or 2020.

Originally Posted by Triage

But it won't be long before the usual cheerleaders are basically writing with every post, "Romney sucks but at least he's not Obama."

Just to save bandwidth, can we just call this argument #1, or arg1 for short.

poliasshat will be a quicker read, something like this

librodouche: blah, blah, blah, Romney doesn't stand a chance against the great Obama, blah, blah, blah
conservatard: arg1
librodouche: blah, blah, blah, Romney doesn't stand a chance against the great Obama, blah, blah, blah
conservatard: arg1
librodouche: blah, blah, blah, Romney doesn't stand a chance against the great Obama, blah, blah, blah
conservatard: arg1

that about wraps it up until November

So incredibly fuct--why are they bothering trying? It's just not going to happen.

None of the remaining bozos can possibly do it, and it's too late for someone else to get in.

Third party? Sure....