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  1. #1
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    Zermatt ski test mini reviews (Side Stash, Movement Trust, S3, Scott Stunt vs S7)

    So I made my annual pilgrimage to Zermatt to get the legs going and test out the tasty new skis. I brought my 1st gen 188 S7s with me as well to get a baseline.

    Me: 5'10", 170 lbs decent skier 60 days/year in Cham, but not amazing
    Skis I ski: S7, RC112, Scott Crusade, Volkl Kendo
    Conditions: a foot of fresh pow, low viz, but pretty flat terrain (glacier skiing)

    Movement Trust 178 (comes in 186 as well but not available)- I've been intrigued by this one since I first saw the dims, rocker, flat tail, and no metal. Contact length is actually pretty similar to a 188 S7. This is a super fun and easy ski that refused to have it's tip burried even at low speeds and has nice edge feel (tells you what's going on w/out too much info). At high speeds it's not the most stable ever but it has a nice pop too it and never felt out of it's depth. My only reservation would be how it would hold up to set up junk w/out the metal. Like most Movements, it feels really light on your feet and I wouldn't hesistate mounting it up with a Dyanfit for day tours.

    Nice ride.

    K2 SideStash 181 11/12 model- Word is that they've elongated the rocker on it this year vs last. My caveat is that I have not liked any K2's in the last 5 years including Coombas or Seths (9/10 model). That said, I actually really liked this ski which means something from a K2 sceptic. It had a bit more stability and dampness compared to the Movment but was by no means lifeless. It still managed to feel light on the foot however but still super comfy at high speeds. Tip was un-bury-able. If you likes your turns a bit longer and stronger I'd probably opt for this over the Movement but it wasn't quite as fun.

    Solid reliable ski.

    Scott Stunt 186- I wanted to give this a go even though the design is a bit outdated now. I own and like the Crusade and this is supposed to be the same basic construction just bigger and wider. Unfortunately, bigger isn't always better. While the Crusade's dampness on edge is great for a mid-fat, the Stunt comes out feeling heavy and lifeless while not floating as well as the competition. It's probably unfair of this ski as I reckon it'd do a lot better at higher speeds and heavier snow, but first impressions were not kind.

    I think there's better options out there.

    Rossi S3 186- I actually picked up a pair of these at the end of last season on 50% off but hadn't had the chance to mount them up and ski them yet. I'm still debating whether to put dynafits on them or maybe a Duke. Anyhoo, I was taking a particularly critical eye on these but they live up to my expectations. Oddly enough I was suprised that they floated even better than my S7s at lower speeds. For a 98mm waisted ski, they handle chop and pow fantastically but are a lot easier to get over on edge. I'm definitely keeping these puppies but am still unsure what to mount on them.

    Lives up to good reviews and then some.
    'waxman is correct, and so far with 40+ days of tasting them there is no way my tongue can tell the difference between wood, and plastic made to taste like wood...but i'm a weirdo and lick my gear...' -kidwoo

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    You think the instability on the trust is down to the short length? I hope so as I am thinking about them (or legend 105) in 18x to compliment my Lotus 120's for this coming season in Cham...
    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Whelk View Post
    a more stupid motherfuck does not exist.
    Big Balls is worst asshat kind.
    kind that wear bukkake from above.
    with warm drown he gurgles final death, for one time not worried about his misplaced import known of african american social standing and prominent community members. for he is only drown, as is the way.

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    To be honest I couldn't even get enough speed to even really call it instable, was more a feel I would say. I was really hoping they had the new Legend 105 there to test as I'm leaning towards that one too.

    Given that you have a light pow ride in the Lotus, the Legend or Side Stash would probably be a better compliment as an all-rounder for the weird, set-up snow you can get in Cham. I've already got the RC112 for that kinda stuff so would lean more towards the Trust.
    'waxman is correct, and so far with 40+ days of tasting them there is no way my tongue can tell the difference between wood, and plastic made to taste like wood...but i'm a weirdo and lick my gear...' -kidwoo

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    Welcome to the S3 club
    Imvho, they are the ideal tele ski, so if you're not sure about what to drill....

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    Yea you may be right, I have always liked the lively yet sold feeling of Movement skis (couloir, sluff and goliath) and never liked the damp and imho dead feeling of K2's.....The legends I am curious about but I have only ever been on the troublemaker from them (which I fucking loved).

    You in Cham full time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Whelk View Post
    a more stupid motherfuck does not exist.
    Big Balls is worst asshat kind.
    kind that wear bukkake from above.
    with warm drown he gurgles final death, for one time not worried about his misplaced import known of african american social standing and prominent community members. for he is only drown, as is the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verbier61 View Post
    Welcome to the S3 club
    Imvho, they are the ideal tele ski, so if you're not sure about what to drill....
    Verb- Ha! You taunt me you do! Thankfully I truly suck at tele so I have no designs to mount such a nice ski in order to flail around.

    stokes- Geneve, but I'm up every weekend and take a few weeks off during the season as well, got a small cabin I rent. As for the Legends, I've had both iterations of the LP, first super stiff race room one in a 186 and 2nd that was a bit more like a wider Mythic Rider in a 184 that I still have. I would not call either very lively, they are damp strong machines and the 105 looks to be in that vein. You can demo the Dynastars for free at the GM test center if you get a little voucher from Sangalard, Snell, or another Dynstart dealer in town.
    'waxman is correct, and so far with 40+ days of tasting them there is no way my tongue can tell the difference between wood, and plastic made to taste like wood...but i'm a weirdo and lick my gear...' -kidwoo

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    Yea I will have to try them for sure....I am working for Footworks in Cham sud, opposite the midi, this season so I am pretty sure we have both the Trusts and the 105's...hopefully for demo too.

    Pop in and say hello one day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Whelk View Post
    a more stupid motherfuck does not exist.
    Big Balls is worst asshat kind.
    kind that wear bukkake from above.
    with warm drown he gurgles final death, for one time not worried about his misplaced import known of african american social standing and prominent community members. for he is only drown, as is the way.

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    Ha- I'm sure our ships have probably passed in the night. I'm a 'rob' too, sure I'll be in there at some point.
    'waxman is correct, and so far with 40+ days of tasting them there is no way my tongue can tell the difference between wood, and plastic made to taste like wood...but i'm a weirdo and lick my gear...' -kidwoo

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