Thread: VOTING: MPC #74, FOLIAGE

Originally Posted by Mathematics

Voted for Lonnies shot.

I have some constructive comments to make, positive & negative, but I'll refrain from making them until this MPC is over & I remember to dig this thread up, and then remember my initial comments, and how relevant I thought they were at the time, and then post them in all of their relevancy.

That or I'll get distracted & go straight to the NSFW thread in the padded room.

Anyways great MPC, nice shots everyone.

Now everyone is going to vote for Lonnie, since you said you were voting for Lonnie. It's all effed up now! So just to make it fair, I voted for altmanator...

Originally Posted by skiingislife

Has the voting time period always been 8 days long? It just seems to me like most of the votes are in in the first two or three days.

As a finalist that looks like a long shot, I'd have no problem if gpetrics decided to shorten the voting to just a few days (end Monday at midnight?). Also, the contest thread is packed with awesome shots, beautiful work.

Yeah I've always felt like the voting period was too long. Most of the regular photo folks get in there in a first couple days. I'd say 40 votes and we've got ourselves a valid MPC and that usually happens in the first 3-4 days

i just went with what happened last time, and used that a precedent. i feel weird changing the rules after the board has been set. if this is going to change, i advise the winner of this MPC to consider making the change in the NEXT MPC (if they so choose).

2 comments.

#1 - 8 days for voting is waayyyy too long. I did 4 days and it saw almost the same number of voters as these longer ones.

#2 - Lonnie always fucks up every MPC voting thread ever. He asks for no comments when he is in the running, but he sticks his fucking nose into every-single-one regardless. Do you really need attention that bad? Your facade is crystal dude and I can see the insecure you behind your e-persona.

8 days is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Lonnie

Well Steve, I've seen the vote sway in these things based on positive and negative comments, so just trying to keep the playing field level for all.

It's a request, but really should be the etiquette for these things. Talk about it all you want after it's over, but while the voting is going on, hold your fingers. It's why TV doesn't report on election results until the polls close....

I like all the comments and what not and I voted for birdboatboy. If you want picture with no banter just head over to flicker. Does it really matter if all the talk sways this important election one way or the other? Frankly I think birdboatboy killed it here and it'd be better if a hundred other people were on here discussing it.

maybe i should start a polling thread about whether or not to reduce it from 8 days! XD

jk... i DO feel bad about changing the rules in the middle of the game, but I STRONGLY encourage the winner here to modify the next instance of the MPC.

and as far as comments... i like discussing stuff whether it's a voting thread or not. I come here because they are the TGR DISCUSSION forums... not the TGR silent auction forums... so... i guess i just don't agree with lonnie. it's all good to disagree tho

I've talked this over with gpetrics, and while he disagrees, I'm going to politely withdraw my entry. Justin, feel free to get #75 rolling...

I haven't said anything yet, so please let me put my foot in my mouth.

Fuzz, if you're paying attention to this thread I really liked your shot here, and certainly thought it was among the best:

Originally Posted by Fuzz

As far as my entry goes, I was happy to submit something that didn't feature leaves changing in the foreground but I guess I wish I brought them out a little more in post. Anyways, thanks for picking the shot GP, it was nice to be included.

Fall is really just starting to get started down here, and where that shot was taken in VT it was already done. Maybe the next contest can be Autumn instead of Foliage () or "Giant Human Heads" in which case I'm gonna smoke you fools.

I was going to vote for Lonnie, but he bitched and moaned so much that I voted for Altmanator.

Originally Posted by Lonnie

Well Steve, I've seen the vote sway in these things based on positive and negative comments, so just trying to keep the playing field level for all.

It's a request, but really should be the etiquette for these things. Talk about it all you want after it's over, but while the voting is going on, hold your fingers. It's why TV doesn't report on election results until the polls close....

That's why I vote before I read the comments.

WTF is up with all this butt-hurt drama over a feel-good "competition" where nothing is at stake?

I also don't understand why we shouldn't discuss. So what if the outcome is influenced? Not like someone's losing out on big money. I personally like to learn when others point out the (subjective) pluses and minuses -- helps me develop my critical eye and my own photography in turn. And if you don't want to be influenced, vote first and read second.

FWIW, I thought birdboatboy and ml242's entries were the most unique of the finalists. I voted for birdboatboy's; with a little bit of processing, ml242's one might have won out for me.

Originally Posted by Fuzz

WTF is up with all this butt-hurt drama over a feel-good "competition" where nothing is at stake?

I also don't understand why we shouldn't discuss. So what if the outcome is influenced? Not like someone's losing out on big money. I personally like to learn when others point out the (subjective) pluses and minuses -- helps me develop my critical eye and my own photography in turn. And if you don't want to be influenced, vote first and read second.

FWIW, I thought birdboatboy and ml242's entries were the most unique of the finalists. I voted for birdboatboy's; with a little bit of processing, ml242's one might have won out for me.

Exactly. Except Lonnie needs to turn every voting thread into some sort of drama.

Originally Posted by Lonnie

Well Steve, I've seen the vote sway in these things based on positive and negative comments, so just trying to keep the playing field level for all.

It's a request, but really should be the etiquette for these things. Talk about it all you want after it's over, but while the voting is going on, hold your fingers. It's why TV doesn't report on election results until the polls close....

Crazytalk.

Originally Posted by Fuzz

WTF is up with all this butt-hurt drama over a feel-good "competition" where nothing is at stake?

I also don't understand why we shouldn't discuss. So what if the outcome is influenced? Not like someone's losing out on big money. I personally like to learn when others point out the (subjective) pluses and minuses -- helps me develop my critical eye and my own photography in turn. And if you don't want to be influenced, vote first and read second.

Normaltalk.

Originally Posted by Todds

That's why I vote before I read the comments.

Simple solution but in the end, does anyone really care that much? If you do, well... I don't know what to say about that.

Originally Posted by HotDiggity

Exactly. Except Lonnie needs to turn every voting thread into some sort of drama.

Yeah, it was EXACTLY this comment I was waiting on, because I KNEW that none of you would understand where I was coming from. When the guy running the contest tells you to "eat a bag of dicks" (it was said "in jest" and he edited out, but I saw it), there was not way I could feel good about the outcome. So I PM gpetrics and bailed. If he's man enough, he'll verify what I'm saying.

All I originally did was make a request. It's TGR and the United States of America, you guys all have freedom of speech and can do what ever you want. You guys disagreed with me, and after my comment to Steve, I didn't say anything else. I'm not sure how that's butthurt, but some of you apparently think it is. It's all here in the thread (with the exception of what gpetrics edited out of his post). The butthurt didn't come from me, it came from everyone else.

Say what you guys will, chalk it up to butthurt or what ever you guys want to think about me. I know where I'm coming from with this and after it's all said and done, this little guy will give me a happier feeling in my pants that one of these things ever will.

Originally Posted by Fuzz

WTF is up with all this butt-hurt drama over a feel-good "competition" where nothing is at stake?

I also don't understand why we shouldn't discuss. So what if the outcome is influenced? Not like someone's losing out on big money. I personally like to learn when others point out the (subjective) pluses and minuses -- helps me develop my critical eye and my own photography in turn. And if you don't want to be influenced, vote first and read second.

FWIW, I thought birdboatboy and ml242's entries were the most unique of the finalists. I voted for birdboatboy's; with a little bit of processing, ml242's one might have won out for me.

I agree. Comments are good and you shouldn't wait until the end. I also like to vote before I read the comments. I'm not sure there is anything wrong with reading the comments. Maybe someone will bring up an interesting point that will affect the outcome - it might not be a bad thing. Maybe I'll read the comments before voting next time.

I voted for birdboatboy's also.

Originally Posted by Lonnie

Yeah, it was EXACTLY this comment I was waiting on, because I KNEW that none of you would understand where I was coming from. When the guy running the contest tells you to "eat a bag of dicks" (it was said "in jest" and he edited out, but I saw it), there was not way I could feel good about the outcome. So I PM gpetrics and bailed. If he's man enough, he'll verify what I'm saying.

All I originally did was make a request. It's TGR and the United States of America, you guys all have freedom of speech and can do what ever you want. You guys disagreed with me, and after my comment to Steve, I didn't say anything else. I'm not sure how that's butthurt, but some of you apparently think it is. It's all here in the thread (with the exception of what gpetrics edited out of his post). The butthurt didn't come from me, it came from everyone else.

Say what you guys will, chalk it up to butthurt or what ever you guys want to think about me. I know where I'm coming from with this and after it's all said and done, this little guy will give me a happier feeling in my pants that one of these things ever will.

Remember a few months ago when you posted a voting thread to the padded room? And now because you are in it you want everyone to not comment until voting is over? Like I said, your insecurity is transparent (maybe why you keep posting pictures of your naked wife and newborn) dude and please I don't need another PM from you justifying your position.

You're a joke. A joke that takes nice pictures but still a fucking joke.

Originally Posted by advres

Remember a few months ago when you posted a voting thread to the padded room? And now because you are in it you want everyone to not comment until voting is over? Like I said, you're insecurity is transparent dude and please I don't need another PM from you justifying your position.

You're a joke. A joke that takes nice pictures but still a fucking joke.

And as I said in the PM, I AM sorry for that. Unfortunately, I can't change past history. Lesson learned. And lesson learned here. And for the record, I've been in alot of these. So your insinuation that I get in this one and try to throw everything is off the mark.

Truth be told your the one that's still butthurt because of the the small sensor MPC...

Remember this??? I do...



So it looks like I'm not the only mag here that's cuntted up a MPC. Welcome to the club...

Yeah I remember that one. I crushed in that thread. Especially my handmade circle with the line through it over my camera.

But I bitched about the topic, not the comments. I claimed that you didn't want to leave anyone out and then you made it solely blocking many of us out. I still claim it was a stupid topic for the exact reasons you suggested were the reasons for it.

Now will you please leave this thread for commenting on the awesome pictures and voting instead of again trying to inflate your self-important ego?

Originally Posted by advres

But I bitched about the topic, not the comments.

Like it matters? You were as much of a dick in that thread, even more so, that any comment that I made here. Everyone ignored what I asked here anyway, so no harm, no foul.

In that thread you submarined the topic before it even got going. As I said, all I was trying to do there was take folks out of their comfort zone and see what they could do when the image isn't decided by the quality of the body or glass someone's sporting. It's calling pushing the boundary artistically and creatively. You never got that.

As for the commenting in the voting thread, think of it this way. What if I'm in one of these and write up a pretty stinging critique of my competition and PM it to my buddy to post in the voting thread? Would that be cool? Not saying it would happen, but it could...

Agahahaha, I knew you couldn't not post again.

Originally Posted by advres

Agahahaha, I knew you couldn't not post again.

I'll quit posting when you do. I bet you can't resist....

And by the way, Quoted for hypocrisy...

Originally Posted by advres

#2 - Lonnie always fucks up every MPC voting thread ever. He asks for no comments when he is in the running, but he sticks his fucking nose into every-single-one regardless. Do you really need attention that bad? Your facade is crystal dude and I can see the insecure you behind your e-persona.

Originally Posted by Lonnie

and after it's all said and done, this little guy will give me a happier feeling in my pants that one of these things ever will.

I don't know what you guys are arguing about, but does your wife know about that happy feeling?



sorry, couldn't resist. Guess foliage really brings out the worst in people.

leggggggennnnnn... dddduhhhhh.... aaaaairrrrrrr.... eeeeeeeeeee