Thread: 2011-2012 Jackson/Targhee/Tetons/Togwotee Weather, Conditions & Stoke Thread

http://teton.outerlocal.com/skiing/j...e-gtnp-outpost

This really got to me. Be careful out there everyone!

Originally Posted by SimB

http://teton.outerlocal.com/skiing/j...e-gtnp-outpost

This really got to me. Be careful out there everyone!

holy shit, what a bunch of morons

its mind boggling how many poor decisions were made in that vid (though i guess you need to be informed in the first place in order to make "decisions" and these guys clearly are not)

glad he is okay, but what the fuck

Thank You!! Point Of Release. just a lurker.

Originally Posted by meatspicy

holy shit, what a bunch of morons

its mind boggling how many poor decisions were made in that vid (though i guess you need to be informed in the first place in order to make "decisions" and these guys clearly are not)

glad he is okay, but what the fuck

i look at it more like a pretty comprehensive 'how not to travel in avi terrain' video, cool he was humble enough to post it...

Well, it's been around 5 years since a skier died in a backcountry avy in the Tetons. Wray Landon died from his fall and the two climbers up in garnett canyon died in their tent. Guess the noobs who just got out here won't get it til we get a multiple fatality in a terrain trap. For awhile, we were losing someone every two years, at the least, so maybe there's a big experience/inexperience gap building up.

Nice vid POR. 2 GoPros at once?!? Holy shit, you must be the best skier on the mountain!!

Originally Posted by neckdeep

Well, it's been around 5 years since a skier died in a backcountry avy in the Tetons. Wray Landon died from his fall and the two climbers up in garnett canyon died in their tent. Guess the noobs who just got out here won't get it til we get a multiple fatality in a terrain trap. For awhile, we were losing someone every two years, at the least, so maybe there's a big experience/inexperience gap building up.

Hmm, not sure what point you're trying to make. And just so you know, DK, who is the pov in the vid, is not a noob who just got here, but a local who was raised in the valley. Sometimes that can be worse, as they have grown up seeing what is possible, what people get away with on a regular basis, and their standard of 'good skiing' is very different from others. Hey, you gotta get rad if you live in J Hole, right?!?

Mission off the west side of Glory into Coal Creek- a couple of nice laps in pretty low-angle terrain but the trees are getting filled in.

Lots of crowns visible from this recent cycle: frequent fliers like the lower pocket in Casino (or Super Bowl), Cave Bowl, Burbank, Skeeters into main fork Mail Cabin, the cross-loaded ridgeline on Calverts. Also some notables that I haven't seen go to this scale in a while: full bowl on Moose Brush, full lower bowl of the Columbias. Maybe a crown off the Diving Board on Oliver, but lower down where it rolls over. That's all I saw today- not the greatest visibility and still snowing.

Also got a lower view of the east side of Taylor- saw a smaller crown just lookers right of the apron, which is the farthest s side of the Laurel Dana slide; then most of the run on the s side of Summer Trail Bowl (lookers right of Wolverine). Couldn't see up into the main east face, and saw no crowns off the s ridge or into the s face.

I might be a pussy, but my family, and I enjoyed a great ski week at JH, but I decided to stick to low angle inbounds runs. I really wanted to go higher, but did not. Even patrol, was worried about slides inbounds, and out. When they talk I listen. We don't have alot of avy terrain where I am, so i am not familiar with it. I heard it had not been like this in along time, and I was listening to people that lived there. I swallowed my ego, and stuck to the lower mountain with the family. We still had a ton of fresh powder runs inbounds, and we came home safe..Great time..You guys be careful..

Woah, that shit's scary.

Originally Posted by SimB

http://teton.outerlocal.com/skiing/j...e-gtnp-outpost

This really got to me. Be careful out there everyone!

Haha, I've been shooting with two since last spring. Surprised I don't get called out for it more often.

Originally Posted by powder_prophet

Nice vid POR. 2 GoPros at once?!? Holy shit, you must be the best skier on the mountain!!

Some notes from what Ive seen on the pass/heard from Jay lately. These are mainly reminders for folks here but if youre new, listen up. Also if you see people doing things wrong Jay encourages people to politely speak up.

If you have to hitch from below the gut or the NE ridge please do it from the snowbank, not IN the road.

When your walking up from shovel/first/second/etc and theres another group walking...walk on the same side of the road. Skinning back is ideal but if you have to walk the road do it on the same side.

Trail Creek and the Coal Creek lot are still the best places to hitch. First shot at cars and they have places where the cars can pull off the road and let traffic pass. Hopping the road and skiing out the old pass road doesnt add that much time to your lap.

Remember its only going to take one accident.

South side of the pass skied great today. Lots of people on Edelweiss. Stoke coming later.

Originally Posted by SimB

http://teton.outerlocal.com/skiing/j...e-gtnp-outpost

This really got to me. Be careful out there everyone!

Hmmm..... I skied with one of the guys in that video last year. He's a super cool WY local, a phenominal telemark skier with a ton of backcountry experience, but never took a course in avalanche safety. We skied right after a fresh storm last year, but as conditions worsened, we backed off to less avy prone terrain. I felt out of my element being in continental snowpack, but found that I had more avy training than the rest of the group. Hopefully with this scare, they'll sign up for an avalanche safety course now.

Originally Posted by powder_prophet

Hmm, not sure what point you're trying to make. And just so you know, DK, who is the pov in the vid, is not a noob who just got here, but a local who was raised in the valley. Sometimes that can be worse, as they have grown up seeing what is possible, what people get away with on a regular basis, and their standard of 'good skiing' is very different from others. Hey, you gotta get rad if you live in J Hole, right?!?

I dunno man...if he grew up here, he had his head in the ground not to have learned anything from somethin like 30 avy deaths around here in just the last decade. That would be my point; He should also know what people have not gotten away with. Small community, ya know, one has got to have an oblivious "it can't happen to me" attitude to think a legend like Haas can get mowed down but he and his bros are going to be ok skipping the basics on a high risk day. I've been around for just 13 years but I met one woman who died on the westslope shortly after I met her. Another time, I was in a rehab therapy when the therapist got a call and started crying, her friend had just died up in Coal Creek. One of my riding buddies spent the night out in the woods with his little brother's body up in Darby, right behind where I live. Made an impression on me, to say the least. Glad your friend got off with a lesson and is ok. Nature is a swift and impersonal killer and two guys bombing down a treeless gully together just screams "It can't happen to us!" JP was rad but rad don't count for shit when you skip the basics.

To quote Marley: "He who fight and run away, will live to fight another day"

Stoke incoming. Pass the last couple days.

Simb






Me

Couple questions from a mag visiting in 4 weeks:

The return from Granite Canyon to the resort, is it a traverse out, a hike out or a skin out?

Perusing the online eating establishments I get there are good burger places in town. Any good cheap eat places I should hit-beyound the burger places? Any twofers I should know about? Beer specials?

Anyone have a good online link to a map with the parking areas at trailheads?

Peace


Vid at the top of the page was a bit boggy loading-just saw it. Was that the bad layer I was reading about a week or two ago? looked like a relatively shallow angle slope to release. Sure hoping things sort themselves out before I get there.

Traverse. Please know where youre going back there. Pretty easy to get into trouble back there.

Go to Billys and/or Bubbas.

Trailheads for the park can be found on the parks website and trailheads on the pass are really easy to spot. Again, know where your going or ask someone to show you around.

Hi guys.. I'm coming in Feb 2 from Boston, for a few days with my nephew who is 18.

Obviously we are Pats fans and need to tune into the SB. I was told Sidewinders would be a good spot.. anywhere else that would let an 18 YO hang around during the game?

Originally Posted by cat in january

Couple questions from a mag visiting in 4 weeks:

The return from Granite Canyon to the resort, is it a traverse out, a hike out or a skin out?


Peace

.

If you dont know where you are going back there, and have dont have anyone to show you, dont go into granite.

Originally Posted by Snowboard Professor

If you dont know where you are going back there, and have dont have anyone to show you, dont go into granite.

I feel that, but I would want to know how I was getting out so I could plan. Thanks for the heads up. I will post closer to coming. Weather sure looks good out there now. Listening to rain tap against my window.

Originally Posted by cat in january

Perusing the online eating establishments I get there are good burger places in town. Any good cheap eat places I should hit-beyound the burger places? Any twofers I should know about? Beer specials?

Originally Posted by Beast_Coast

Hi guys.. I'm coming in Feb 2 from Boston, for a few days with my nephew who is 18.

Obviously we are Pats fans and need to tune into the SB. I was told Sidewinders would be a good spot.. anywhere else that would let an 18 YO hang around during the game?

listen to these other skiers on the skiing, i'll be at the ghee and am not really that smart.

cat- grab the daily and read over the restaurant specials. Particularly the cowboy steakhouse bar, thai me up, the garage for food; and the cadillac grill fappy hour.

beast- the Winder will be packed: THE place for that game. No specials, and slow service, but way fun. Other places will be fine...but not quite as balls out full on Super Bowl/Giants game kinda fun...

Originally Posted by cat in january

Couple questions from a mag visiting in 4 weeks:

The return from Granite Canyon to the resort, is it a traverse out, a hike out or a skin out?

sidestep from hell

Note on that VID:
Bro out with those dudes bro loc ness all u want. They are fuckin idiots enda story. The fact that the idiot didn't just ski into that first clump of trees and self arrest shows how fuckin amateur they are. If u have a choice of scratching your goggles as you flail into a stand of trees or...... taking a thousand foot ride down a terrain trap, um seems pretty fuckin simple to me? I mean really, that was the poorest execution I have ever seen. I wouldn't kayak on Jackson Lake with that idiot let alone moving water!!!!! And that is before you even talk about the other fuckin idiot wanting to get on helmet cam and skiing 2 or 3 at a time and the terrain choice for a red high day. Fucking FAIL!!!!!!! Those dudes should be teaching crayola crayon coloring classes to the special ed class at the pre school in fuckin Etna. And even then ehy should be wearing helmets, life jackets, and mouthguards. Just in case one of them decides it to be a good idea to stick their face in the toilet and try and breath water for 10 minutes or something almost as retarted as what they just did. Wanna learn a lesson from this? Those dudes should fuck off before they kill themselves, someone else, or someone who has to go and recover their body.

ps. they also suck at skiing and a whippet is for self arresting in the high peaks. Maybe he was using it on his freinds ass or something? Stick it in someones ass before being an ass?????

oh yeah, and the fuckin music SUCKS!!!!!!

maybe they should take the pipe outta their mouth, stop treating the backcountry like a PHISh concert and ski into that clump of trees and hold the fuck on like their life depends on it! cuz it does!

john c on my offensive line please!

Originally Posted by john c

Stick it in someones ass before being an ass?????

i have to admit i only read the first and last sentence of posts that are longer than 2 sentences, so i guess i got lucky this time.

not sure what is meant but funny just the same.

sidewinders or the big tv in the room next to the bar at cascade (in the village)