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    forward lean in boots?

    How do I figure out how much forward lean I need in ski boots? Like most people, i went from more to less forward lean over the years, and I wonder now how do I determine the optimal lean.

    Any suggestions?
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    You need an Optimal-Forward Angle Calibrator (O-FAC). I saw them on EVO.com for about $579 plus shipping, which isn't too bad, cause their usually $979. Kind of expensive, but you only have to buy it once, and it'll server you for years.
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    ^^^ I bought one. It told me to set my boots to 20.3 degrees. Fuckin' dialed bro.

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    From what I've been able to determine, after you have made 10,000 turns you will know what is right for you. Until then, it doesn't matter much.
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    thanks, this has been verry helpful.
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    The problem with your question and many others is that it does not appear to reflect any research or effort on your part. Many bootfitters have theories of forward lean and many boot companies have made boots with adjustable cuffs. For example:
    http://bit.ly/o1zAfw

    People regularly get answer to questions here. The trick is to contribute by doing some research and summarizing the possibilities as you see them, even if your idea ends up being incorrect.

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    Thanks, whacked. I did research before, Ron Lemaster's book, and a few web articles. I looked at the link, very informative.


    And i am not sure I agree that after 10,000 turns you can figure it out. Obviously, boot manufacturers have changed their mind in the last few years.

    Boots are a lot more upright now.

    Also, racers frequently customize their boots for forward lean. I just haven;t found a bootfitter in Tahoe that works with that.
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    Rod,

    There is a thread here called "WTF is wrong with my boots?.....". It is a wealth of such information. But, I'll save you some (but not all) searching with this simple exercise:

    Put on your boots. Buckles on the outside, and on the right feet. Buckle them. Now, stand on your feet (with them still in the boots), about shoulder width apart. With your feet flat in the boots, straighten your legs as much as you can, locking your knees if possible.

    Did you fall over on your face? Yes? Too much forward lean. No? Okay, was all of your weight on the balls of your feet (about right), in the middle of your foot (too little) or on your heels (you're doing it wrong, or WAY too little forward lean)?

    Now, go see a good bootfitter and get sorted.

    That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iscariot View Post
    You need an Optimal-Forward Angle Calibrator (O-FAC). I saw them on EVO.com for about $579 plus shipping, which isn't too bad, cause their usually $979. Kind of expensive, but you only have to buy it once, and it'll server you for years.
    I prefer the Forward Angle Calculator Optimal Factor Figure (or FAC OFF) model. Much more accurate than the O-FAC. Heard it was discontinued though. Anybody want to sell one?
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    I don't have a o-fac or fac off for sale however I do have a forward angle calculator with ass douche, but due to the rarity of this model I need to get $1000 an hour
    she's worth every penny and guaranteed to get you dailed

    ps I prefer adjustable forward lean
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    Quote Originally Posted by bl2000 View Post
    I prefer the Forward Angle Calculator Optimal Factor Figure (or FAC OFF) model. Much more accurate than the O-FAC. Heard it was discontinued though. Anybody want to sell one?
    YES! I have one. Just pay pal me $375 and pm me your address.

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    Although this thread provides great comedy relief for a monday morning and there's so much more material here to cover, Since you are in Tahoe, just head over to Starthaus and make an appointment with one of the fitters there. They are some of the best fitters in the country.

    Quote Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post
    Thanks, whacked. I did research before, Ron Lemaster's book, and a few web articles. I looked at the link, very informative.


    And i am not sure I agree that after 10,000 turns you can figure it out. Obviously, boot manufacturers have changed their mind in the last few years.

    Boots are a lot more upright now.

    Also, racers frequently customize their boots for forward lean. I just haven;t found a bootfitter in Tahoe that works with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post
    Boots are a lot more upright now.
    I would just like to take a moment to thank Jebus for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arty50 View Post
    I would just like to take a moment to thank Jebus for this.
    That would be might uprighteous of ya.
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    If you're sticking your butt out behind you when you ski ("squatting on the can"), you probably have too much forward lean.

    If you're getting thrown backseat all the time, you might have too little forward lean.

    IMPORTANT: binding ramp angles vary dramatically. It's possible that you have too much with one set of skis and too little with another, depending on what bindings you're using.

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