Thread: "Because if there's one thing the "small government" folks like, it's big business."

Because if there's one thing the "small government" folks like, it's big business. Discuss.

I just want my special raw goat cheese from south France, fucking assholes and regulation.

Originally Posted by DasBlunt

Because if there's one thing the "BIG government" folks like, it's big business. Discuss.

I just want my special raw goat cheese from south France, fucking assholes and regulation.

FIFY....

End of thread.

You are so wrong......it hurts. Are you really just a 17 year old kid with access to the internet?

My statement is 100,000 times more true than yours. You can't see the truth through your self generated haze. (Literally & Figuratively)

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

My statement is 100,000 times more true than yours. You can't see the truth through your self generated haze. (Literally & Figuratively)

Dude...have a little more perspective than what Fox News programs you to believe. (taxes, taxes, taxes).

Lobbyists are the biggest bankroll of the GOP...that is a hint. But I assume you will not get that, so make another pigeonholed response, right?

Originally Posted by DasBlunt

Lobbyists are the biggest bankroll of the GOP...that is a hint. But I assume you will not get that, so make another pigeonholed response, right?

Hmmm...complaining about regulations, lobbyists, and such...
http://www.opensecrets.org/parties/i...DPC&cycle=2010
Money from lawyers and lobbyists - 2010:
Democratic Party - $35.0 Million
Republican Party - $8.5 Million

Originally Posted by DasBlunt

I just want my special raw goat cheese from south France, fucking assholes and regulation.

Could you prioritize ... which of these do you want most to least?

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

My statement is 100,000 times more true than yours. You can't see the truth through your self generated haze. (Literally & Figuratively)

marijuana poisoning.

Working class Americans were "clubbed into submission long ago, and now require only enough medication for high levels of cholesterol, enough alcohol to keep the sludge moving through our arteries, and a 24/7 mind-numbing spectacle of titties, tabloid TV, and terrorist dramas. Throw in a couple of new flavors of XXL edible thongs, and you've got a nation of drowsing hippos who will never notice that our country has been looted."


-- Joe Bageant, "Rainbow Pie: A Redneck Memoir

Originally Posted by JimmyCarter

Hmmm...complaining about regulations, lobbyists, and such...
http://www.opensecrets.org/parties/i...DPC&cycle=2010
Money from lawyers and lobbyists - 2010:
Democratic Party - $35.0 Million
Republican Party - $8.5 Million

I should have said, I assume lobbyist's spend their biggest amount ON the GOP to protect big business, not supporting it. Sorry and thanks for the fact check.

Originally Posted by BrianH

LOSERS LIKE BRIANH were "clubbed into submission long ago, and now require only enough medication for high levels of cholesterol, enough alcohol to keep the sludge moving through our arteries, and a 24/7 mind-numbing spectacle of titties, tabloid TV, and terrorist dramas. Throw in a couple of new flavors of XXL edible thongs, and you've got a nation of drowsing hippos who will never notice that our country has been looted."


-- Joe Bageant, "Rainbow Pie: A Redneck Memoir

FIFY.....

Originally Posted by DasBlunt

I should have said, I assume lobbyist's spend their biggest amount ON the GOP to protect big business, not supporting it. Sorry and thanks for the fact check.

The GOP has to lobby. Obama just gives them all cabinet positions.

BIG government is in bed with business, not SMALL government. Party has nothing to doi with it. You want less corruption? Shirnk the government and take away most of what it does. It takes 2 to tango.

Maybe if a professor draws real fast again you will understand human nature like I already do.

Shit - I thought DasCunt killed himself a few days back.

?????

The problem isn't business vs government or religion or any of the world's various institutions. The problem lies within the hearts of people, people create all of these institutions, and make them do what they do, for good or ill.

As long as people seek advantage over one another there will be governments malfunctioning, business done in a corrupt manner, and religions behaving hypocritically. These forms of human interactions can only be as much of a benefit, to those who form them, as is the intent of those engaged in them.

Originally Posted by Rasputin

The problem isn't business vs government or religion or any of the world's various institutions. The problem lies within the hearts of people, people create all of these institutions, and make them do what they do, for good or ill.

As long as people seek advantage over one another there will be governments malfunctioning, business done in a corrupt manner, and religions behaving hypocritically. These forms of human interactions can only be as much of a benefit, to those who form them, as is the intent of those engaged in them.

So you think we should function on the lefts false belief that they can successfully change human nature. Liberalism runs counter to human nature. It can work because it CAN NOT cahnge human nature. Liberalism is wishful thinking. Nothing more or less.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

So you think we should function on the lefts false belief that they can successfully change human nature. Liberalism runs counter to human nature. It can work because it CAN NOT cahnge human nature. Liberalism is wishful thinking. Nothing more or less.

Human nature is more complex than your appraisal of it, it is not limited to bestial nature, as you seem to think. The very fact, that there are those who seek to nurture motives other than the avaricious hoarding of substance, bears witness to this, and yet the reptilian minds, of those avoiding evolving into the use of the rest of their brains, deny the existence of anything but the instinct to gorge and hoard.

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Human nature is more complex than your appraisal of it, it is not limited to bestial nature, as you seem to think. The very fact, that there are those who seek to nurture motives other than the avaricious hoarding of substance, bears witness to this, and yet the reptilian minds, of those avoiding evolving into the use of the rest of their brains, deny the existence of anything but the instinct to gorge and hoard.

The human nature of individuals is not the same as human nature of "The collective".

Liberals make policy based on what they think individuals should do. They don't seem to understand that what they do affects and is reacted to by all of "nature". Think of human nature as ONE big organism. It will not do what the liberal intends it to do.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

The human nature of individuals is not the same as human nature of "The collective".

Liberals make policy based on what they think individuals should do. They don't seem to understand that what they do is affects and is reacted to by all of "nature". Think of human nature as ONE big organism. It will not do what the liberal intends it to do.

PERFECT example from today's headlines...


The chief spokesman for pharmaceutical manufacturers says President Obama has stuck two thorns in the industry’s side at a time marked by uncertainty as lawmakers contemplate cutting health care programs and battles over the new health care law wind their way through the courts.

When the president presented his deficit-cutting plan last week, he included measures that will drive up drug prices and squash investment in companies that develop drugs and medical devices, said John Castellani, president of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA).

The industry is especially fuming over Mr. Obama’s push to reduce the length of time a company can produce biologic drugs exclusively by paring the patent protection time frame from 12 years down to seven.

“It’s absolutely wrongheaded,” Mr. Castellani said. “It drives the opposite effect that the president stated he wants to reach.”In an interview with editors and reporters of The Washington Times, Mr. Castellani criticized the administration for policies he thinks will hinder medical advancement, outlined recent negotiations with the Food and Drug Administration and touched on his hopes for the congressional supercommittee charged with reaching a deficit-reduction agreement this fall.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

PERFECT example from today's headlines...


The chief spokesman for pharmaceutical manufacturers says President Obama has stuck two thorns in the industry’s side at a time marked by uncertainty as lawmakers contemplate cutting health care programs and battles over the new health care law wind their way through the courts.

When the president presented his deficit-cutting plan last week, he included measures that will drive up drug prices and squash investment in companies that develop drugs and medical devices, said John Castellani, president of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA).

The industry is especially fuming over Mr. Obama’s push to reduce the length of time a company can produce biologic drugs exclusively by paring the patent protection time frame from 12 years down to seven.

“It’s absolutely wrongheaded,” Mr. Castellani said. “It drives the opposite effect that the president stated he wants to reach.”In an interview with editors and reporters of The Washington Times, Mr. Castellani criticized the administration for policies he thinks will hinder medical advancement, outlined recent negotiations with the Food and Drug Administration and touched on his hopes for the congressional supercommittee charged with reaching a deficit-reduction agreement this fall.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

“EPA had the [science] reviewed by a panel of 12 federal climate change scientists. However, the panel’s findings and EPA’s disposition of the findings were not made available to the public as would be required for reviews of highly influential scientific assessments,” the investigators said. “Also, this panel did not fully meet the independence requirements for reviews of highly influential scientific assessments because one of the panelists was an EPA employee.”

So using your own "logic", the fact that Mr. Castellani works directly for big pharma as a Chief Spokesperson must in your mind, with regard to your post on the EPA, similarly disqualify his statements.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

The human nature of individuals is not the same as human nature of "The collective".

Liberals make policy based on what they think individuals should do. They don't seem to understand that what they do affects and is reacted to by all of "nature". Think of human nature as ONE big organism. It will not do what the liberal intends it to do.

I think of all as one big organism. All matter, all force, all form, all life. I think I couldn't have ever encountered a mind like yours if I didn't have that nature within me, presenting to find acceptance by barking at the shadows.

Nature is mutable, it evolves through movement of the will. Or, do you deny the evolution of forms of life? If so, I guess it's not surprising that you also believe human nature can't evolve.

The fact is, that all nature on earth is waiting for humans to evolve beyond the belief, that life has to be a fight for survival, once we evolve, nature will too. We have the knowledge and the wherewithal to allow everyone on earth to live abundantly, but many resist this direction at every turn.

Originally Posted by Rasputin

I think of all as one big organism. All matter, all force, all form, all life. I think I couldn't have ever encountered a mind like yours if I didn't have that nature within me, presenting to find acceptance by barking at the shadows.

Nature is mutable, it evolves through movement of the will. Or, do you deny the evolution of forms of life? If so, I guess it's not surprising that you also believe human nature can't evolve.

The fact is, that all nature on earth is waiting for humans to evolve beyond the belief, that life has to be a fight for survival, once we evolve, nature will too. We have the knowledge and the wherewithal to allow everyone on earth to live abundantly, but many resist this direction at every turn.

That's all great but we aren't there yet. Why pass laws - in the real world - today - based on some distant future fantasy of utopia?

Now would it be BIG government or SMALL government involved in this one?

Repubs or Dems??

It’s as if Solyndra never happened. The Obama Administration is giving $737 million to a Tonopah Solar, a subsidiary of California-based SolarReserve. PCG is an investment partner with SolarReserve. Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law happens to be the number two man at PCG.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

That's all great but we aren't there yet. Why pass laws - in the real world - today - based on some distant future fantasy of utopia?

When you can pass them based on some distant past fantasy?

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

That's all great but we aren't there yet. Why pass laws - in the real world - today - based on some distant future fantasy of utopia?

Duh, it's in keeping with this Nation's mission statement, that's why.

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