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12-15-2011, 06:08 AM #451
12-15-2011, 09:04 AM #452
new page so here is the information if you actually want to do something......
here a list of people you can call to voice your opinions about HR 3452 and S 1883
Congressman Rob Bishop (call if you are not in his district as he will not accept your email)
Congressman Jason Chaffetz (call if you are not in his district as he will not accept your email)
Senator Orrin Hatch
Senator Mike Lee
Congressman Jim Matheson (Encourage him to actively fight this proposal that sells off lands in his district)
Governor Gary Herbert
Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands.
HR3452 has been sent to committee, this might be the best place to call. encourage them not to earmark it to another bill and just let it die.
FYI bills need to sit in committee for 2 years before they die.
Here is an online petition you can sign if you're against the "SkiLink"
You can also voice your opinion here. popvox.com is a government site that allows people to let their congressmen whether they are for or against any bill/act of congress
Here are the government tracking sites that allow the public to follow where currently active bills and acts of congress through the process of becoming or not becoming law..
tracking site for HR 3452
S. 1883: Wasatch Range Recreation Access Enhancement Act
another thing I've taken to doing is calling the canyons (888-canyons) and solitude (801) 534-1400, and telling them directly that you will be taking your business elsewhere...... i know one marketing director who has been feeling the push back from his resorts push into public lands
ok now, back to the grubble gobble rubble bickering............
12-15-2011, 09:55 AM #453
12-15-2011, 01:10 PM #454
No, but they're working on the Silver Fork lift, luckily I don't like Silver Fork that much, so I'm cool with it.Life is a lot like climbing: there isn't anything much more comforting than a good #2.
12-15-2011, 07:55 PM #455My karma ran over your dogma
12-16-2011, 11:14 AM #456
I'm just a silly East Coaster, but I've read a good bit of this tread simply out of interest. I'm sorry if this question comes across as naive, but I can't help but ask why all you guys are only shitting on Talisker and Canyons. Why doesn't anyone appear upset w/ Solitude as well? Do they not want this Ski-Link? Was it forced upon them? Are they against it? I haven't seen anything saying Solitude DOESN'T want this gondola, but it seems like they get a free pass from the protest b/c they are a family owned mountain that keeps things old school? I'm really just trying to get a handle on what's going on out there, but can't seem to figure this part out.northern lights and southern comfort...
12-16-2011, 11:28 AM #457
iceman owns sillytude
12-16-2011, 11:50 AM #458
w/ apologies. family owned was incorrect. can you give me some insight on why he gets a free pass on this?northern lights and southern comfort...
12-16-2011, 01:11 PM #459Registered User
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A few theories dark star...soli is getting some pretty good heat elswhere..ask Matt Turley
1. The tram won't upload people at soli with just a soli ticket to ski the terrain under the lift; it takes another Canyons lift after that one ends at the canyons to get to the terrain. Not true for Canyons ticket holders, no existing solitude lift need to do another run.
2. This is a real estate deal for the Colony, a Talisker$$$ subdivision, not a ski deal.
3. Why would Soli even want this thing, that is a better question...they could lose quite a bit of their parking if the traffic flows as the opposition has suggested. This because The Canyons does have some good terrain but all of it sits right on the crest, way more easily accessable from BCC than synderville. The canyons does have a lot of intermediate terrain, and no matter what the pundits say here, that is what sells $100 lift tickets, not a few trees with uncut pow. I think too that Talisker sure would hope to buy Soli.....this could be the start of that deal...the Darthvandersnoobies are getting pretty old.
12-16-2011, 03:50 PM #460
Understood 100%. That was the explanation I needed.
Thanks for the knowledge.
BTW, I agree that Canyons does have some cool terrain esp off the 9990 lift. I was there for 3 days last Feb, 2nd half of President's week. We had 2 15+ inch days and we were skiing untracked every run. With my home mountain being Windham, NY, I certainly had no complaints.northern lights and southern comfort...
12-16-2011, 03:50 PM #461
powderpond for mayor of bcc
mrs.ice(wo)man as vp
sillytude is as sillytude is
fantasy magic carpet ftw
12-19-2011, 11:09 AM #462Registered User
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Bump for an Opinion article from a "neutral" party:
12-19-2011, 12:06 PM #463
Mike Goar is a paid turd polisher for Talikersatan.it is good to be the geezer!
12-19-2011, 04:25 PM #464
Just got a return letter from Rob Bishop.
My favorite paragraph:
"At a recent event four people separatly spoke to me about this issue. They were from PC and SLC. The first three were excited about the possible tourism increase. The last individual wanted nothing to change. (75% in favor not jiving with reality here) I don't know if the last persons arguments were any less legitimate,But the studies so far support the first three. Studies say It could bolster tourism revenue, upon which so many winter industries rely. INDEPENDENT STUDIES estimate 500 permanent jobs in our state would be created and more the 500million would be infused into the local economy. Another study also predicts that it would reduce pollution by removing over 18,000 autos from the road
I have asked groups to send any independent studies that would refute these claims"
Such complete and utter bullshit. They must think we are fucking stupid to keep trying to sell us on the Canyon's "independent" studies.
I'd think anyone could come up with an "independent" study to refute their claims. It shouldn't be too hard, just make shit up like they did.
12-19-2011, 09:28 PM #465
I was stuck in Ted Wilson's "Red Snake" in LCC on Saturday, and, like so many other times, it turned out not to be from congestion, but from a traffic accident. This was a bad one and involved a car that went off the road, which required that traffic be halted, emergency vehicles, etc.. It occurred to me that not only is it cheesy/sleazy for the Canyons to use traffic jams as an excuse to build a lift under the pretense of solving traffic jams, but in cases like this, they are using other people's misfortune, or even death, to try to slam in more development.
I was also wondering about their 51 million dollar a year claim. This lift is going to be running about 120 days a year (less in years like this), which means it supposedly will bring in $425,000 per day, or $35,416 per hour. It is just such bullshit that it's hard to believe anyone but a paid-off politician would believe it.
12-19-2011, 11:07 PM #466
12-20-2011, 10:08 AM #467
got an email back from ole whorrin hatch:
Originally Posted by Orrin Hatch
12-20-2011, 01:54 PM #468
Straight from Orrin's Hatch.........
I continue to be a strong proponent for giving Utah (You mean Canadians) more local control over Utah’s land, and this proposal has a lot of local support. Utah is a beautiful place, and I believe it is important that we develop our resources responsibly. (You mean fuck it up entirely) This will ensure that future generations can appreciate this place that way we do. (So future generations will never know what open space is like) SkiLink is a responsible way to bring more connectivity between our canyons while still protecting Salt Lake City’s municipal watershed as well as the backcountry experience in the Wasatch.
Last edited by Trackhead; 12-20-2011 at 04:09 PM.
12-20-2011, 02:47 PM #469
Ka ching: the sound of the check clearing from Taliskersatan to orrin hatch. Hey Orrin did we mention there from Canada.!!!it is good to be the geezer!
12-20-2011, 04:14 PM #470
The whole thing is a disgusting abuse of power, it's no wonder Congress has a 9% approval rating. they keep pulling this shit and everybody just apathetically stands by and lets them lie to us. Fuck this shit.
12-20-2011, 04:43 PM #471far from my next whomp
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12-20-2011, 05:09 PM #472
It's a great question. What can we do really?? it' feels like it's out of our hands, all being done in the back rooms of washington by people who have no idea about the facts and logistics of the project. It's very frustrating to listen to these total lies, and At this point I'm just hoping the truth comes out thanks to opponents in high places like the FS, Mattheson, etc.
Sad thing is; I consider myself a Can local, been here 12 years, used to patrol a long time ago, and have a lot of pride in my little slice of scrub oak hell, (tho I spend most my time out the gate) but the direction Talisker has been taking this place over the last couple years marketing to ultra yuppies and colony cronies is totally disgusting, and the epitome of eveything that is wrong with the ski resort formula today. However I really don't want to boycott because this place is like my family and I live 50 feet from the cabriolet.
12-22-2011, 07:27 AM #473
ask Randy Mcapostle for a lift
got my whorrin email too cant get my wake the fuck up and realize your church of visionary right wing morality is sending more potential vacation/tourism $$$$$ to our neighbors and how bout some turd term limits to send you sad old relect me old gray mares out to pasture reponse to go through
01-11-2012, 09:20 AM #474
We did it ya'll~!!!!!~
SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH: the gayest place to live in the nation!
I think gay gondolas and gay liquor laws had a lot to do with this! call your congressmen and tell them thanks for gay ideas like the skilink for helping make our city the gayest place in the nation!
Thanks to our awesome congressmen, lds church and skiing for making salt lake the gay place to stay!
01-11-2012, 12:52 PM #4753 bean salad
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so no skilink??? (cool)