Thread: the Wasatch's new worst enemy=TALISKER

Originally Posted by TheMessenger

$100 says that Andy McLean rides this thing once it's built.

Sheet, I heard McLean is working on version 2 of the Chuting Gallery, it's going to include the 'USA Bowl Chutes' and 'Radio Tower Road Gnar Gnar Traverse'. Canyons is going to sell them for a $20 upgrade when you get a SkiLink ticket.

Originally Posted by TheMessenger

$100 says that Andy McLean rides this thing once it's built.

For sure, why do you think he took all that S down? Someones money told him to take it down.

So I just sent Jim Matheson an email expressing my strong disapproval of the expansion. I am trying to figure out who else I can call and get involved.

This aggression will not stand.

Another op-ed, this time from the trib:

Resort Snake Oil

Nothing new, but its good to see the issue continuing to get media coverage.

In arguing for the sale of public land for ski resort expansion, The Canyons and Talisker have tossed about statistics about jobs and economic impact. They have been less forthcoming, however, about where they get those numbers.

A chart on the SkiLink website provides as the source Robert Charles Lesser & Co., which is a real estate development consultant commissioned by Talisker. On its website, RCLC explains its mission as: “We strive to add value to our clients’ real estate activities and provide ways for them to gain a competitive advantage in the marketplace.”

That hardly strikes us as “independent economic research,” as Salt Lake County Councilman Michael H. Jensen and Canyons Resort Managing Director Mike Goar described it in their testimony before the U.S. House.

In fact, it stretches the imagination to picture thousands of skiers at The Canyons, one of the largest ski resorts in the country and within a quick bus ride of Park City Mountain Resort and Deer Valley, spending an hour on lifts to end up at Solitude, a relatively small resort, popular with the locals.

A more likely scenario would be thousands of additional skiers driving up Big Cottonwood Canyon to ride over the mountain to The Canyons, exactly what Talisker wants.

Originally Posted by StraightChuter

Speaking of loads of shit, how about that "study" Talisker did showing it would provide 500 new jobs, bring in 51 million a year and save 1 million miles of driving in the canyons per year? That's the mother-lode load of shit.

seriously, I count 4 low-paying liftie jobs, and maybe 20 people to install the lift. It can't be used year around because it starts in the middle of nowhere.

Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat

seriously, I count 4 low-paying liftie jobs, and maybe 20 people to install the lift. It can't be used year around because it starts in the middle of nowhere.

500???? That's 50 more than what run all of Alta. Bogus numbers at best.

Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat

It can't be used year around because it starts in the middle of nowhere.

Now, c'mon, I mean I understand some of your objections, but really, is that any way to refer to Utah?

Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat

seriously, I count 4 low-paying liftie jobs, and maybe 20 people to install the lift. It can't be used year around because it starts in the middle of nowhere.

you're forgetting to calculate all of the construction workers that will be needed to build all those new ski in/ski out homes............

AND don't forget that talisker just might need to fully staff all their pre-exisitng hotels and restaurants in pc with the new influx of tourists that utah will be stealing from europe and colorado......

Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat

seriously, I count 4 low-paying liftie jobs, and maybe 20 people to install the lift. It can't be used year around because it starts in the middle of nowhere.

And the jobs will probably be to Swiss lift installing specialists.

Originally Posted by Trackhead

And the jobs will probably be to Swiss lift installing specialists.

I could be down with that if they're not french speaking swiss...

A more likely scenario would be thousands of additional skiers driving up Big Cottonwood Canyon to ride over the mountain to The Canyons, exactly what Talisker wants.

and damit your elder politicians are telling you this

^^ I wanted to come on here to discuss the idea that the ski link would actually increase traffic up BCC as well. Talisker keeps trying to sell the lift idea as a way to decrease traffic congestion. But in reality more people drive from SLC to the canyons than from the canyons to BCC. if a lift is put in BCC that just means people living in the salt lake valley can access canyons upper terrain faster than someone from PC.

Originally Posted by Wolfmansbro

^^ I wanted to come on here to discuss the idea that the ski link would actually increase traffic up BCC as well. Talisker keeps trying to sell the lift idea as a way to decrease traffic congestion. But in reality more people drive from SLC to the canyons than from the canyons to BCC. if a lift is put in BCC that just means people living in the salt lake valley can access canyons upper terrain faster than someone from PC.

yeah i didn't even think of that the first time around until i saw the trib article, that is a very valid point though and most likely would be the reality.

Originally Posted by ectreeskier11

yeah i didn't even think of that the first time around until i saw the trib article, that is a very valid point though and most likely would be the reality.

Why would you want to leave the kindly core of the Wastch (BCC) to ski the canyons? Half the snow, more wind suffering powder quality,...this is a ONE way lift , one way to steal the heart of the Wasatch and give it to a Canadian real estate speculation company who will want only more.

And to think many posting in this thread, as well as myself, have taken money from these bastards in the form of payment for one service or another.

Kind of embarrassed about that right now.

TH, Taken money how? I hope my heart is pure, God knows my socks smell

don't forget to call your congressmen, their aides seemed less irritated today when I called them..........

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES!

Congressman Rob Bishop (call if you are not in his district as he will not accept your email)
(202) 225-0453
http://robbishop.house.gov/ZipAuth.aspx

Congressman Jason Chaffetz (call if you are not in his district as he will not accept your email)
(202) 225-7751
http://chaffetz.house.gov/contact/email-me.shtml

Senator Orrin Hatch
(202) 224-5251
http://hatch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-orrin

Senator Mike Lee
(202) 224-5444
http://lee.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact

Congressman Jim Matheson (Encourage him to actively fight this proposal that sells off lands in his district)
(202) 225-3011
https://mathesonforms.house.gov/contact-form#dialog

Governor Gary Herbert
http://www.utah.gov/governor/contact/index.html

EVERYONE OF THESE POLITICIANS IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR with the exception of Sen. Mike Lee.
I like to remind them that they'll need my vote in the fall 2012

Originally Posted by yabyum

TH, Taken money how? I hope my heart is pure, God knows my socks smell

I think it was some video work, either gay porn or RC helicopter work?

Originally Posted by yabyum

Why would you want to leave the kindly core of the Wastch (BCC) to ski the canyons? Half the snow, more wind suffering powder quality,...this is a ONE way lift , one way to steal the heart of the Wasatch and give it to a Canadian real estate speculation company who will want only more.

i agree.

Originally Posted by BRUTAH

don't forget to call your congressmen, their aides seemed less irritated today when I called them..........

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES!

Congressman Rob Bishop (call if you are not in his district as he will not accept your email)
(202) 225-0453
http://robbishop.house.gov/ZipAuth.aspx

Congressman Jason Chaffetz (call if you are not in his district as he will not accept your email)
(202) 225-7751
http://chaffetz.house.gov/contact/email-me.shtml

Senator Orrin Hatch
(202) 224-5251
http://hatch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-orrin

Senator Mike Lee
(202) 224-5444
http://lee.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact

Congressman Jim Matheson (Encourage him to actively fight this proposal that sells off lands in his district)
(202) 225-3011
https://mathesonforms.house.gov/contact-form#dialog

Governor Gary Herbert
http://www.utah.gov/governor/contact/index.html

EVERYONE OF THESE POLITICIANS IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR with the exception of Sen. Mike Lee.
I like to remind them that they'll need my vote in the fall 2012

Thanks for posting that I was just going to ask what else I can do...

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

Now, c'mon, I mean I understand some of your objections, but really, is that any way to refer to Utah?

Hey, I didn't say, "it starts in the middle of nowhere near a good beer."

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Originally Posted by BRUTAH

edit because i miss read that: I do ski north of hwy 190. that's where i take all my ladies and the newbs ski touring. that's where 7 times out of 10 i head to ski before work. I get down in the powder park. I also like to ride bikes on the crest trail in the summer. i just like giving your wiggling ass shit cause i'm bored and you talk shit back

all sounds very reasonable to me. i worked in bcc, so it was my almost daily convenience and great for storm tours. i did tour over to or out of lcc at least once a week as well to mix things up. pow park is fun and is low hanging fruit if you start tours before the crack of 10am the ice cream cone is great too if ya get it before it gets wind fucked or sun crusted. corns up real nice in spring due to winters wind compaction. i secretly like being given shit. good effort

less to fight in the mary ellen expansion because 1.) snowbird owns the land already (or that's my understanding) 2.) it doesn't affect the watershed where i get my drinking water 3.) snowbird isn't going to put a lift in so I can ride it downhill and over all the empty mansions. 4.) touring traffic is significantly less in mary ellen than anywhere in the cottonwoods 5.) white pine only gets affected if they get their tram to the top of twin peaks approved by the FS (i.e., snowbird isn't trying to bypass the FS process by buying congressmen to introduce some stupid legislation)

got it.

very bored. touring in bounds and upper little is only mildly entertaining....... PRAY4SNOW!

i'm sure that angry inch or 3 is helping quiet things down a bit, but i hear ya. i know it must be at least a bit grim when i get cg on the phone and his tone is a little low in the stoke factor.

i'm sure sfb will throw at least a portion of this over in the reminisn tr. till then i'll crack another beer.......

rogblog out tr drift for the muthafuckin WIN!

In related news, Snowbird appears to have actually listened to the people, at least in this one small instance. Good for them.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politic...ities.html.csp

Originally Posted by skiski

In related news, Snowbird appears to have actually listened to the people, at least in this one small instance. Good for them.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politic...ities.html.csp

surprising but not that surprising, definitely feel like that may have just been a marketing ploy in the beginning anyway.

Originally Posted by skiski

In related news, Snowbird appears to have actually listened to the people, at least in this one small instance. Good for them.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politic...ities.html.csp

Good news, but it was a ploy the whole time. Aim big! ...then when locals get pissed about original plan, back off and everyone is happy they' re puting the POS in the appropriate place

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