Thread: Dynafit Titan Ultralight

Originally Posted by LeeLau

Anyone else have weights? I'm weighing mine at 1820g

Boot: 1516g

Liner: 304 (+ 20g footbed)

My 29's were 1.94 kg per boot without footbeds. My Titans were 2.2kgs for the same size.

Originally Posted by Hohes

Another problem I have had with this boot is when you fully extend the cuff range backwards with a big stride, part of the shell overlap comes out from under one of the upper buckle straps and gets caught resulting in a cuff that momentarily wont articulate forward again until there is a loud crack when the hooked-up plastic releases. This has already caused small cuts in part of the shell overlap.

Interesting to hear this coming up in real world use. I found that to be a mildly disturbing consequence of the less-shape-holding pebax, that when the buckles were loose, part of the lower shell would expand out enough to come between the pebax tabs that hold the two upper buckle ladders. Even in shop vetting it was damaging the plastic, but it was only really troublesome on long strides where there was a lot of negative motion in the cuff.

Do keep us posted on how the wear progresses, or if it is purely cosmetic.

The plastic eventually cracks. The issue existed in the ZZeus, in the Titan and now in the Titan UL. It's been pointed out to Dynafit before but they insist it only happens in carpet testing in the store; which is manifestly untrue.

My solution is snippers to cut out sections of the plastic. Either that or the more unpalatable option of not having the buckles loose all the way and losing that free cuff motion

Just got a pair of Titan ul myself and noticed this in the store while trying them out. I immediately came up with a solution of adding a small strip of plastic between the two flaps to give the cuff underneath a piece to run against (think shoehorn) to stop the snapping. I'm thinking t nuts through the unused buckle holes to attach the plastic. If the plastic has slightly oblong holes and the t nuts are not compressivley tight, it should not effect the movement of anything in any way and the weight should really only be a couple grams.
I have not done the mod yet, but as soon as I get a chance I can post pics. I figure, 10 grams added at most and if I can do it right, should have no detrimental effect on any function.

The plastic eventually cracks. The issue existed in the ZZeus, in the Titan and now in the Titan UL. It's been pointed out to Dynafit before but they insist it only happens in carpet testing in the store; which is manifestly untrue.

I can attest to the problem existing in the Zzeus as well.

I'm the one skiing the Zzeus's that Sinecure posted the picture of earlier. They haven't cracked but there's a little nick in the bottoms of the fronts of the cuffs in the same place on both boots that seems to be getting slightly larger each time I wear them. Every time I take them off I also see a bunch of plastic dust on them from the cuff and the bottom part rubbing together.

I haven't noticed any performance issues because of it though, as rangerjake was saying, I think it's purely cosmetic. At least for me anyways.

Just tried this boot on in the store. Very impressed. Any more real life feedback? People using this as a quiver of one boot with an emphasis on touring/backcountry? Thanks.

Originally Posted by kevino

Just tried this boot on in the store. Very impressed. Any more real life feedback? People using this as a quiver of one boot with an emphasis on touring/backcountry? Thanks.

I got these boots at the beginning of the season, planned on using these as a "quiver of on boot". I have about 8 days on them so far and am loving them, 50/50 resort and touring. I would say that they aren't a 100% replacement to alpine boots, but they do pretty good for what they are.

The only issue can bring up on them is the ankle pivots, they have been developing a bit of play. Not enough to really get worried about yet, though only 8 days in and it is there. Something to watch for, not sure if anyone else is having this issue.

Thanks Ruckus. You swapping the soles out? Often? Never? I've never owned alpine boots so I don't have much for comparison. Aslong as they are as stiff as my busted beat up adrenalins then i'll be happy. Thanks.

Does anyone else have issues with the ankle pivot?

Size 27s just arrived today. I threw an intuition liner in them w/o cooking and the feel pretty good! I've been on the TLT 5s and the Titan UL is stiff as hell! Walk mode is minimal compared to the TLT 5, but that's to be expected. Once we get some snow I'll use this boot for Lotus 120s and Wailer 112s. More to come after I ski them, but first impression is it's a nice stiff boot.

Originally Posted by kevino

Thanks Ruckus. You swapping the soles out? Often? Never? I've never owned alpine boots so I don't have much for comparison. Aslong as they are as stiff as my busted beat up adrenalins then i'll be happy. Thanks.

Does anyone else have issues with the ankle pivot?

I have swapped them a bunch, worked out that I have been alternating between resort and touring every other time I go out. It is easy enough, just don't strip the plastic in the shell and there is nothing to worry about. The only thing is it gets kind of tedious after a while, think about using the power driver next time I am swapping them out.

Originally Posted by RUCKUS

I have swapped them a bunch, worked out that I have been alternating between resort and touring every other time I go out. It is easy enough, just don't strip the plastic in the shell and there is nothing to worry about. The only thing is it gets kind of tedious after a while, think about using the power driver next time I am swapping them out.

It'd be nice if there were metal inserts just in case

Originally Posted by LeeLau

It'd be nice if there were metal inserts just in case

I would like to see some insert in there forsure, it may be possible to t-nut the boots later if one does get stripped. Hopefully I don't have to do the tests on that one.

If I were you, I'd only use the power driver for removing, not replacing the soles. Way too easy to strip the plastic with a power driver. I almost never change my soles. I bought some Marker bindings for my resort skis so they handle the rubber soles just fine. I have Zzeus, not Titan, but it's pretty much the same boot.

I had a pair of Adrenalines that I skied for years and swapped the soles quite regularly. Like Sinecure says, I used a drill to remove and most of the time a screwdriver to install. Although, the Adrenalines had more screws and I did eventually set the clutch super light and began using the power drill to install and then hand tighten. No problems over three years of frequent swapping. Just be careful doing it!

Originally Posted by auvgeek

Be curious to hear from someone who has skied both these and the Cochise. Paging Marshal to Aisle 1 please, Marshal to Aisle 1.

I realize this is pretty old, but I'll respond anyway.

3 years in zzeus (very similar to the Titan) boots, about 15 days in the cochise this season. I can't think of one thing the zzeus did better- the cochise has more (and better- no clicking) articulation, it's lighter, and most of all the cochise skis so much better than the zzeus (stiffer and more even flex, much stiffer lateral and rearward).

Yeah, thanks goldenboy. I'm super happy with the Cochise (+ Intuition PW) thus far as well. Was coming off the Radium, and I think these tour as well (for my stride) and ski much better. After I posted that question, I found the Titan UL in a local store - turns out I really don't have a Dynafit foot (arch is weird), so they wouldn't have worked for me anyway. Was hoping to save a few ounces, but oh well.

Will be interested to see how the Cochise Light and Pro models coming out next season compare to the current version, but I'm feeling pretty happy with my choice.

When I was looking for boots, I was aiming for the cochise or the Titan UL. I went with the Titan based entirely on fit, I was swimming in the cochise. There was just too much room above my foot compared to the titan. I am interested in what comes out next year, being the cochise pro, and the new dynafit boots. Going to have to be some major improvements to get me to switch though, fairly invest in the Titan UL right now, and they are working well for me.

Originally Posted by RUCKUS

There was just too much room above my foot compared to the titan.

Typical problem, solved with a sheet or two of Bontex. (Just in case someone else is reading this thread and hasn't yet made it over to the cochise thread or read the review on blister.)

So in wildsnow's review the cochise would be about 200 g heavier, and thats with the light liner, which costs extra. Nor does the cochise come with both soles...interesting

Interesting to hear from goldenboy and ruckus. I tried on the Cochise and it fit me well, without any tweaks. I might want it a smidge wider, but I think the liner will pack out enough to accommodate my foot. I wish it came with both soles stock, but I may wait until some maggot is selling off a set of alpine soles. I'm thinking that the Cochise will be my boot next season.

Cochise DIN soles are $40. Tech Soles are $70

If you want to make your Cochise lighter the easiest thing to do is take the arch grip piece off the bottom of the boot. A thermoform liner usually saves some weight over the stock liner as well. Interchanging the hybrid buckle/power strap for just a power strap will save weight but you might not get the same wrap at the top of the cuff especially if you've got chicken legs.

Cochise is $649.... Titan UL is $869...

Cochise Light for next year is right around 1600g with a solid 120 flex. What is published weight on the UL? 1746g? 1600g is a 310mm 26.5 Cochise where as 1746 is a 27.5 UL but most people can go down a size from a Titan to a Cochise. I can wear the 28.5 Cochise (with a small toe punch) and I can't even get my foot in a 28.5 Titan. I'm sure Dynafit will be coming out with something lighter and stiffer for next year but won't see that until OR next week.

3 seasons on zuess no complaints cept the buckles blow out every year and they give me new boots
They changed the zuess from cool earthtones to steezy yellow crap.
Got the titan ul hookup from a mang, never change soles. May keep both boots. Should sell zuesses
I have a spair pair of unused 29 zuess sole blocks if anyone needs for shippin and a few stickers or kind words

Originally Posted by auvgeek

Typical problem, solved with a sheet or two of Bontex. (Just in case someone else is reading this thread and hasn't yet made it over to the cochise thread or read the review on blister.)

This is true, but I didn't want to pad my boots like a teenager padding her bra. It may look right, but it is just not the same as the real thing.

ok the more i read about the cochise the more interested i am. how much rearward and total cuff movement is there? people using these for ski mountainering?


wasatch, how much does the arch grip weigh?

any pnw stores have these in stock? specifically around the seattle area

thanks all for the info

Pro Ski might be the only shop in the country with a 27.5 Cochise left. Not sure what other sizes they have, but I would call there first. They also carry the Titan UL for you to compare fit (not sure what sizes). I also know that Grassroots Outdoor (GRO) in Everett had some Cochise in stock a while ago, but not sure what sizes they have left (I bought the last pair of 27.5). If all else fails and you're a 27.5, you're welcome to try on mine and order online.

I'll probably use mine for some ski mountaineering when my partners want to do that, but that's not my main objective. Not sure how well they'd climb ice, if that's the kind of ski mountaineering you're into. I think the perfect two-boot quiver would be the Cochise Pro and TLT5P.

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