Thread: Trying to eliminate play in Dukes....

So I have some first generations dukes that other than 4 new AFDs, have treated me well. Hundreds of days in the BC and only a handful inbounds. Anyhow, they still work fine, but have developed a ridiculous amount of play in the pin/toepiece interface.

Has anyone experimented trying to eliminate that play and fill the space between the metal pin and the plastic toe-piece? Has to be something that will still allow the binding to pivot freely, maybe a soda can to shim it? Any ideas?

I brought mine to a good shop and they handled it. Bindings work like new! Not sure exactly what they did but it worked like a charm.
Sorry that's likely no help but maybe someone has the answer.

Somewhere there is a thread from Jondrums where he talked about an idea on how to fix it and putting together a kit of parts, but I'm not sure if it ever happened.

Oodles of play?

Sure you don't have Freerides?

your talking about the removable pivot pin and the plastic on the toepiece right? I had this exact same problem and figured out a pretty good solution.

I took out the pin and disassembled the binding so i had the 2 different parts, each with 2 places where the pin went through and had developed play. I took some chemical degreaser and made sure that they were bone dry and clean. I then mixed up some JBWeld and coated the insides on the plastic with it, just a couple of mm. let it dry, then drilled the holes out with a bit the same size as the pin.

When i finished the holes were still 90% black plastic, but in a few areas i could see where the gray JB Weld remained. Put some WD40 on the pin, put it back in, and i experienced zero slop for the first time in years. I only got 1 day in after the fix, but it seems rock solid (and the pivot still works just as well).

^^^ I'd be interested to hear how that holds up over time... I have some Dukes with the dreaded fore-aft slop as well.

Originally Posted by mc_roon

your talking about the removable pivot pin and the plastic on the toepiece right? I had this exact same problem and figured out a pretty good solution.

I took out the pin and disassembled the binding so i had the 2 different parts, each with 2 places where the pin went through and had developed play. I took some chemical degreaser and made sure that they were bone dry and clean. I then mixed up some JBWeld and coated the insides on the plastic with it, just a couple of mm. let it dry, then drilled the holes out with a bit the same size as the pin.

When i finished the holes were still 90% black plastic, but in a few areas i could see where the gray JB Weld remained. Put some WD40 on the pin, put it back in, and i experienced zero slop for the first time in years. I only got 1 day in after the fix, but it seems rock solid (and the pivot still works just as well).

That sounds like a pretty good idea as long as the pin can still pivot freely. You have only been able to ski on the bindings one day after the fix? tour or lifts?

here's the original thread. I successfully fixed the "lever-slop" on my dukes. scroll down for photo tr.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ple-skis/page2

Might as well make my twice yearly call to action: if anyone has a single or pair of dukes that I can use to do R&D on the repair kit pm me. I might render them useless, but hopefully not. You'd be taking a gamble on that for the greater good. Best would be if they are already broken or orphaned in some way so I don't have to sweat too hard worrying about ruining someone's gear.

Originally Posted by Z

That sounds like a pretty good idea as long as the pin can still pivot freely. You have only been able to ski on the bindings one day after the fix? tour or lifts?

did the fix in june. I skied on them lift served on the 4th of july(hammered on them), then actually toured with them in august, so 2 days so far. No noticeable difference with the pivot, night and day with how rock solid they are now for the downhill.

Sounds like there needs to be a bushing/sleeve for the pin to pivot on, without wearing the plastic of the toe. Jon should be able to come up with something. Could drill out the hole, then glue in a bushing.

Originally Posted by jondrums

here's the original thread. I successfully fixed the "lever-slop" on my dukes. scroll down for photo tr.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ple-skis/page2

Might as well make my twice yearly call to action: if anyone has a single or pair of dukes that I can use to do R&D on the repair kit pm me. I might render them useless, but hopefully not. You'd be taking a gamble on that for the greater good. Best would be if they are already broken or orphaned in some way so I don't have to sweat too hard worrying about ruining someone's gear.

jondrums... shooting you a PM... got dome duke parts you can mess with....

posting here so I can find this later!

Originally Posted by ARpowhound

Sounds like there needs to be a bushing/sleeve for the pin to pivot on, without wearing the plastic of the toe. Jon should be able to come up with something. Could drill out the hole, then glue in a bushing.

That is essentially jondrums kit. Sounds like the JB weld is is a stupid simple fix as well.

^^ actually, it sounds like there are two separate problems:
mc_roon describes a problem with the main touring pivot
others have experienced a problem with the mode-switching-lever pivot

I wasn't aware of the touring pivot problem previously, but Matt seems to have come up with a pretty good fix.

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