Thread: Bachmann, deluded moran, or just a bald faced liar?

Yeah, umm..OK.
I guess she hasn't figured out that the US doesn't actually HAVE much usable sweet crude....Or that Oil is a global commodity.

Holy desperation and pandering to fools like the Tweedles, ILK and DBT

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news....htm?hpt=hp_t2

Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas




By Charles Riley @CNNMoney August 18, 2011: 5:17 AM ET
GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann blamed President Obama for increasing gas prices and said she would change that.

GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann blamed President Obama for increasing gas prices and said she would change that.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- President Michele Bachmann has a promise: $2 gas.

"Under President Bachmann you will see gasoline come down below $2 a gallon again," Bachmann told a crowd Tuesday in South Carolina. "That will happen."

Sure, politicians promise all kinds of things on the campaign trail. But Bachmann, a leading contender for the 2012 Republican nomination, is wading into truly tricky territory.

The price Americans pay at the pump is tied to the crude oil market -- a global system largely beyond the reach of Washington.

It's certainly true that prices -- now about $3.50 a gallon on average -- have risen since President Obama took office.

"The day that the president became president gasoline was $1.79 a gallon," Bachmann said. "Look what it is today."

Of course, that's not the full story.

When Obama took office, the country was mired in a terrible economic contraction.

"That was in the 4th inning of the greatest recession of our lifetime," said Tom Kloza, chief oil analyst at the Oil Price Information Service.

During recessions, demand for gasoline plummets as trucks pull off the road, companies cut back on travel and laid off workers drive fewer miles.
Obama's desperate SPR oil play

"You have to be careful what you wish for because the recipe for cheap prices these days is economic disaster," Kloza said.

Since early 2009, the economy has recovered somewhat and demand for crude has risen. It has even spiked in the developing world -- especially in China, India and South America.

Kloza said that increased crude demand is the principal driver behind higher gas prices.

"We're going to have to recognize the rest of the world has this increasing appetite for oil," he said. "If we go below $2 a gallon, it probably means there has been a lot of wealth loss and we are in a deflationary period."

There are some measures that could be taken to lower gas prices, according to Phil Flynn, a senior market analyst at PFG Best.

A stronger dollar would take pressure off prices, and reducing the number of miles Americans drive in gasoline-powered cars would also weaken demand.

"I never say never," Flynn said. "But whether or not Bachmann can do that in four years is a tall order."

Bachmann did not lay out a specific plan to drop prices on Tuesday. But her campaign website says that as president, she would ease restrictions on drilling and roll back federal regulations on the shale gas industry.

While increased oil and gas drilling in the United States may create good-paying jobs, reduce reliance on foreign oil and lower the trade deficit, it would have little impact on gas and oil prices.
Drill baby drill won't lower gas prices

That's because the amount of extra oil that could be produced from more drilling in this country is tiny compared to what the country -- and the world -- consumes.

Plus, any extra oil the United States did produce would likely be quickly offset by a cut in OPEC production.

According to a 2009 study from the government's Energy Information Administration, opening up to drilling areas off the East Coast, West Coast and the west coast of Florida would yield an extra 500,000 barrels a day by 2030.

The world currently consumes 89 million barrels a day, and by then would likely be using over 100 million barrels.

After OPEC got done adjusting its production to reflect the increased American output, gas prices might drop a whopping three cents a gallon, the study said.

When they create a global depression with deflationary economics.

She's both....and more. Now that the Sheriff Perry of Crazytown is stealing the show, the shit coming out of that pie hole will ratchet up.

bet she plans on subsidizing gas, you know in keeping with the tea party motto: "mmmmm...cake!"

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I think she is both an idiot and a liar.

This is scary though. Bush won one election by bribing the electorate, it could happen again.

This is straight out of the "Get Elected" playbook. Tell the sheeple what they want to hear and to hell with the truth.

Originally Posted by Moeghoul

She's both....and more. Now that the Sheriff Perry of Crazytown is stealing the show, the shit coming out of that pie hole will ratchet up.

No doubt that they all are going to go ape flinging shit crazy except for the only adult in the room. RP is da man.

Originally Posted by liv2ski

This is straight out of the "Get Elected" playbook. Tell the sheeple what they want to hear and to hell with the truth.



No doubt that they all are going to go ape flinging shit crazy except for the only adult in the room. RP is da man.

umm, you do know that ron paul has repeatedly promised to lower gas prices exactly like this, right?

"Read My Lips...Cheap gas for all, and a chicken in every pot! 40 Acres and a Mule!"

I'll take both, just like every other politician under the sun, for $1000 Alex!

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I think she is both an idiot and a liar.

This is scary though. Bush won one election by bribing the electorate, it could happen again.

What candidate doesn't bribe voters ?

I think it is more of a matter of blatant disregard for reality than the promise itself

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

umm, you do know that ron paul has repeatedly promised to lower gas prices exactly like this, right?

Aaaah, but Ron Paul can say it because he knows his plan to downsize the guberment is deflationary and in that economic environment, commodities will get smoked in the near term. Try and keep up Grasshopper.

The sad party is too many delusional Americans will actually believe her.

Originally Posted by rideit

I think it is more of a matter of blatant disregard for reality than the promise itself

Thats the GOP position as of late.

Bachmann, deluded moran, or just a bald faced liar?

Trebek, the word is both.

No shit , what a morun .

Lines like - hope and change , a new way of doing bis in DC , the most transparent administration in history . jobs from green energy - you know , shit like that.

What kind of idjet doesn't use proven lines like these ?

Liar? Well that has not been substantiated in this case, we'd have to give her the reins to find out. However, she is most certainly bald faced, she has no beard!

She is also bold faced in her promises to reduce gas prices. If she doesn't believe it when she says it, then she is a liar too.

you lefties are so used to taking it up the ass you are beginning to like it.

$2. gas it possible and with the adults at the helm will happen.

Obama promised high energy costs prior to election and he has delivered. We'll fix it, no worries

Originally Posted by hutash

The sad party is too many delusional Americans will actually believe her.

It's amazing how many fools fall for that Hope & Change hook line and sinker isn't it?

Originally Posted by mrw

you lefties are so used to taking it up the ass you are beginning to like it.

$2. gas it possible and with the adults at the helm will happen.

Obama promised high energy costs prior to election and he has delivered. We'll fix it, no worries

Bachman can't guarantee $2 gas but she can have a lot to do with increasing supply. More supply = Lower price. Not to mention great jobs that CAN'T be exported.

Originally Posted by Downbound Train

Bachman can't guarantee $2 gas but she can have a lot to do with increasing supply. More supply = Lower price. Not to mention great jobs that CAN'T be exported.

because it will be our beaches, coastlines and rivers that they are scrubbing the oil off of?

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Trebek, the word is both.

Beat me to it. I too am a believer in the "genius of the and"...

And I beat you both.

Originally Posted by advres

I'll take both, just like every other politician under the sun, for $1000 Alex!

Originally Posted by OSECS

What candidate doesn't bribe voters ?

FUCK YOU GUYS!!!!!

REPUBLICANS=LIARS/EVIL/MEAN/STUPID/CRAZY, DEMOCRATS=HONEST/CARING/INTELLIGENT/CARE ABOUT TEH COMMON MAN!!!!!!

WMAT"S UP WITH YOU TWO?!?! DID YOU STOPDRINKING TEH KOOL-AID?!?!?! DON"T STOP DRINKING TEH KOOL-AID!!!!! THAT"S WHEN TEH REPUBLICANS PUT TEH MICRO CHIP IN YOUR BRAIN STEM!!!!!

KOOL-AID!!!!


AIDS!!!!!!


Back in 2008 I thought the best thing for the country would be for Obama to get elected. After Obama fucks up the country for a few years, then maybe most people would see that both parties can produce real losers and maybe instead of voting for somebody who makes them feel all squishy when he speaks, they would vote for somebody who wouldn't be a complete failure like the last two failures. I knew there would still be a minority of morons who, no mattter what, would cling to their Democrat heros like a child clings to his banky. Namely the TGR librodouches.

Plus - everybody knows there is actually plenty of oil in the US. It's in the 53rd state. Or is it the 56th state? It's in one of the 58 states.

Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat

because it will be our beaches, coastlines and rivers that they are scrubbing the oil off of?

Right - let the countries with no environmental standards at all make all the money and have all the jobs. If we drill 100 wells, there isn't that much chance that they'll all be on fire every 5 years like they are in other parts of the world. Do you think they pick up teaspoon sized spills anywhere else in the world like they do here?

The oil company experts admit that drilling all the oil in the US now will make no more than a 3 cent a gallon difference. But Hannity, Rush, and Bachman know more than the geologists and economists employed by big oil.