Thread: FKNA!!!! I Had Stem Cell/PRP/HGH Injections in Two Knees and One Shoulder Yesterday

I'm a potential but I won't know what's up with my knee until a year of rehab. I plan on having a chill season and hopefully learning how to ski with 2 torn ACL's instead of 1.....that sucks to type and have to think about

You would likely need to have the surgery to put an tendon into place that could grow and reconfigure itself into an acl. I don't think stem cells alone will build the bridge of cartilage and affix itself to the bone as it sounds you hope it would. That might be asking a bit much...

there was major sarcasm when I posted that, who knows hundreds of years from now though. I have other issues going on besides just acl's

Hey, my knees were totally gone, I thought, in '93.
They rattled and I couldn't walk up or down inclines and steps well at all. I braced up to ski for over a decade on both knees. My first turn-around eye opener was prolotherapy, prolozone, to be exact. Three rounds and I threw the braces away, both knees felt like new.

Those results wouldn't duplicate for my knee with prolo after the surgeries; mostly because the prolo doc had a list of lame excuses and gave me some other stuff because he said he forgot the formula he used the first time and he also mentioned he forgot it because he used it on some kung fu mafia enforcer dude who had a bad reaction to it and he thought the dude was going to hurt him. Apparently the guy made an impression big enough he actually forgot it. He said he injected the guy and the guy left his office and called him that night screaming and cussing because his knee totally locked up, which is believable because he shoots enough juice and ozone in the knees that walking is a chore. Your knee joint is just floating all over the place. Anyways, the prolo wouldn't reproduce results since he forgot the formula.

The stem cell injection is kinda like that, too. My knees definitely were floating a bit when I tried to stand. The doc warned me and I caught myself. But what the stem cells did is still, right now, as I type, miraculous. My knees feel so new again. Not totally new, but in a place where I can go do anything. After being down as long as I was, it's day and night. What I'm saying, Piggity, is there are treatments that work, that aren't a kabillion bucks, like prolo, that you should try as a low budget cash treatment. Do what you can afford for your knees. A prolo treatment is prolly the same as a day skiing at Mammoth. If it doesn't help, think stem cells. I have gotten the relief you are looking for at the lower end and the upper end of the treatment spectrum. Start low, aim high.

splat, thanks for the offer man! i'm still trying to find a local guy, but it's not easy. i found this guy who does PRP down in MA (i'm in NH) but he doesn't do the stem cells. http://jontristermd.com/platelet-ric...a-therapy-prp/

one would think that in this mecca of the medical world (aka beantown) i would be able to find someone easily. patience.

i found this article that seems pretty good, although i have not read the whole thing yet.

http://www.prolotherapy.com/articles/Stem_Cell_2011.pdf

Splat, your life is like a movie....kung fu enforcers and secret forgotten formulas all in the same post, action/adventure film for sure. The end result sounds awesome though, especially if you thought your knees were toast back in '93. I might have written it off after that long.

My recovery has been as expected. My left acl has been torn for years, I'm guessing junior year in high school and I managed some of my best years of skiing after that. I hoping for the same result on this acl, it just takes time for it to feel normal. If I can get back to 85-90% without surgery, then I'll be happy. I appreciate the updates on your knee, since I might need some of these options in the future. Best of luck this season, amigo!

splat, glad to hear the news - hope to see you back on snow man!

Very interesting stuff. Have they looked at all at using this with degenerative disc disease? I f'ed my neck racing bikes way back when, and just had surgery a year ago (bilateral c5/6/7 foraminotomy). So far so good, but the surgeon was pretty clear that'd be a temporary fix... Goal was to put off fusion as long as possible in the hopes somebody figures out something better.

I haven't even had my knees or low back looked at, because I don't want to have another doc tell me I should just give it all up and play golf.

Originally Posted by strawjack

i found this article that seems pretty good, although i have not read the whole thing yet.

http://www.prolotherapy.com/articles/Stem_Cell_2011.pdf

I read this artilcle last night. it's really impressive and makes me want to get this done more so than ever. still, i cannot find anyone in the NE area doing it yet.

i just found this guy up in VT, but he is not doing stem cells yet. he does do the PRP using Harvest Technologies which is recomended in the above article. he is looking at stem cells and 'preparing' for it.

http://www.jfentondo.mymedfusion.com...type/68915.cfm

Have you checked to see that they didn't also implant you with some alien DNA? How weird would it be if you started turning green, and growing extra ampendages?

Stopped by the doc's office today and ran into a maggot friend heading in to discuss options for his knees. I was hopping around the lobby of the doc's office on my formerly bad leg to show Patches and the doc how far it had come. Since the stem cells came from me and there were no aliens present, I guess my own stem cells did the trick.

Ran my first mile on my knee in like three years at the gym tonite. I'm having to retrain my knee to gain my gait, but that was a milestone I had worried I'd never see

Congrats mang! Not to bring the running discussion into yet another thread, but are you trying to do in *barefoot* shoes (or whatever they're called these days)?

Not gonna argue with you, just curious.

I'm excited to start running myself after having knee and hip surgery. Should be soon now.

No, but I was working on that forward leaning stance to land on the front of my foot that they say the barefoot shoes help you do. I used to land on the heel and roll to the toes, so it was kinda foreign to land on my forefoot but then, so was running kinda foreign after that much time, so I figured I'd change up and try that.

Originally Posted by splat

No, but I was working on that forward leaning stance to land on the front of my foot that they say the barefoot shoes help you do. I used to land on the heel and roll to the toes, so it was kinda foreign to land on my forefoot but then, so was running kinda foreign after that much time, so I figured I'd change up and try that.

I dunno what kind of shoes you're wearing, but I found it really hard to run on my forefoot while wearing regular running shoes since they had such a thick heel (I wanted to see if forefoot-running would help with my shin splints). Switching to a pair of flattish shoes (Chuck Taylors) helped (and I haven't had issues with shin splints since then).

The Doctor Speaks.

Just wanted to post a note up that Dr. Rebecaa Gelber, the beautiful redheaded doctor who cured my bum knee, is giving a presentation on 'Innovations in Stem Cell Therapy' at her Incline Village office on Tuesday January 24th from 5:30 to 7:00pm. Her office is located at 770 Northwoods Blvd and is directly behind the Wells Fargo bank.

If you ever had any questions, this is the time to go meet the wonder woman of stem cells and find out if it might cure your nagging whatever. I just went in and got a prp booster shot in both knees and my shoulder. One thing that was evident was the inflammation in my knee as compared to when I first had the stem cell injections. The whole knee capsule was so inflamed when the doc first shot into my knee that her hand quivered to inject the solution in but she was flawless in execution. I could feel how it was like cement the needle had to go through. The inflammation was gone when I got the prp booster shot. Went totally smooth. I continue to be impressed. The shoulder has been nagging me a bit lately because I have a habit of picking up ten pairs of skis at a time (not that ten pairs of our skis weigh that much ).

You can always call Patches (Matthew) at 775.298.1750 during office hours if you have any questions.

Skied my first day of the season yesterday. Icy firm stuff. Skied it hard. It was also the first day I've skied pain free in almost three years. Thanks, stem cells and Dr. Rebecca Gelber! It worked!

Can't figure out how to do PM's here, but would love to talk more about this.
Can you email me at dnitake@yahoo.com?
Appreciate it.

Nice pat, FKNA! Way to be liberated from your knee pain.

Originally Posted by splat

Skied my first day of the season yesterday. Icy firm stuff. Skied it hard. It was also the first day I've skied pain free in almost three years. Thanks, stem cells and Dr. Rebecca Gelber! It worked!

pat, thanks for this thread!

Just wanted to drop a note and say that I skied with the beautiful red headed lady doctor who stem celled my knees on Monday. She ripped. There was some other guy there who said he was her husband but I only noticed him for like a couple seconds. I hyperextended my knee about twelve days ago and it's been a bit achy since, so the wonderful Dr. Rebecca Gelber did a prp injection Saturday and we were skiing Monday.

The hyperextending my knee is the first setback I've experienced, but it will teach me not to do overly-exasperating shit like walk up the driveway, which is how I did it. It was one of those moments where the signal didn't quite connect between my leg and my brain.

Oh, and that guy, Patches, who's married to the most wonderful doctor in the world, he's a pretty good dude to ski with, too.

Checking in at nine months since I got my stem cell/prp/hgh injections to say that my improvement continues still. My knee is something I almost never think of aymore. Same goes for the other knee and shoulder that was treated with this amazing cure.

For anyone facing radical joint surgery, I can only say this - Keep your parts as long as you can. The after effects of surgery can sometimes be worse than the problem. Stem cells allow you to cure yourself. Consider it before placing your future in the hands of others who don't have to live in your body for the rest of your life.

that is amazing.
Good to hear.
get back to work!

Nine months and still getting better. The doc said the stem cells continue to work for a year and I have seen it and she was right. I almost never even think about my knee anymore. Or my shoulder. And just healed a broken arm in 30 days with no cast. Still totally stoked....

freakin awesome splat!