Thread: Moment: Night Train Ski (Men's Skis)

Night Train Ski

Reverse this, reverse that ... the Moment Night Train just wants to destroy powder. With the agility of rocker, the float of early-rise, and the stability of flat camber underfoot, this fat twin delivers your face-shot fantasies.

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I´m looking for a one-ski quiver for the west...(tahoe, taos, beaver creek and jackson). I excited with the trains... I only have a question...is it decently stable in groomers?

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Over the Bela?

Haven't skied the Bela, but that's obviously a bit more groomer-oriented than the NT. The Night Train is more than adequate for handling groomers -- in fact, on soft groomers it's intensely fun -- but of course the ski is designed for powder. Is it a OSQ? For T/T/BC/JH, I think it could be, although a backup pair of trusty ice skates is always a good idea, even in the west.

If you're looking for a one-ski quiver in the West, look no further than the Bibby Pros. I've been looking at getting the S7 for a couple years and nearly had my mind made up to buy them. I tried out the Super S7, since they are finally making a shorter version, and was about to go home and look for a deal online. Then as a last demo, we stopped at the Moment tent. There were 3 of us (exfemale racer on 174cm, me on the 184's, and SgSkidmark on the 190's) and 3 pairs of Bibby Pros available so we decided to take them for a spin. After one run in some variable PNW conditions, our jaws were on the floor, and none of us could stop talking about what a game changer these skis were. We didn't come back to the demo tent until our legs were jello. While I haven't tried the NightTrain yet, I'm in love with the Bibby Pro and it is my one-ski quiver of the west.

I rode my 186 Night Trains exclusively all last season at Baker, Hood, Big Sky, Bridger, and Stevens Pass. I would not hesitate to pull the trigger on these bad boys as a one ski quiver for the PNW. I also demo'd the Bibby pros in 190, and really liked those as well, they were more chargy and liked to truck through the crud more, but I find the Night Trains to be much more my cup of tea. Where the Bibbys wanted to bust the crud, I find myself wanting to play with the crud and kind of bounce around and have a little more fun hopping around in the crud on the Night Trains. Not to say the Trains are incapable of busting the crud, just not as willing. Although (obviously) there are better choices to ski on boilerplate ice, or other hard-snow conditions the trains handle these conditions about as well as you would expect, but I still found myself having a good time in hard snow conditions (Big Sky after 3 days of no new snow and overnight below zero temps after a day of full sun baking). Perhaps my favorite thing about the Night Trains though is their incredible "stompability." My very fist day riding these I found myself dropping and jumping with more confidence and stability than ever before. The flex of the ski offers a nice amount of support in the tails and underfoot, but still enough flex to keep the poppy fun of the "jib" ski that it is claimed to be by Moment however, unless you are about 230+ pounds, If you plan on buttering off of everyhting you may want to look elsewhere. Over the last few years I have been making the transition from full time snowboarder to skis, and this last season was my first season skiing more than boarding. My plan for the season was to have a nice split between skiing on the good days (on my NT's) and boarding on the so-so days (I ride a 166 Arbor A-Frame, stiff, burly, badass trenching board), but the I found myself loving skiing so much that I only logged maybe two Half days on my board, the rest on my Night Trains. Great Quiver of one ski for the PNW for sure. I would say probably for the more inland areas (Montana, Colorado, Jackson) maybe the 190 Bibbys would be a better choice for a quiver of one, but The Night Train is an incredibly fun ski that I find to be extremely versatile in a variety of conditions found in the PNW.

So, for an advanced, 5'10" 215 lbs. Tahoe (Alpine & Squaw) skier, mostly off-piste, no hucks or tricks, just steep and deep, would the NTs be a good choice? Looking to add a modern full fat to my quiver. I like in the trees, side-country, but don't want to get hurt on the groomers when skiing with friends who don't. If so, what length would you recommend?

I would go with the 186 for sure if I were you.