Thread: War Zone Wisconsin

Originally Posted by Jer

I could totally see Walker in something like this:



Does no one else wish to discuss how Walker looks like he's baked 24/7?

Originally Posted by spook

the only people i've met who think teaching is easy or cushy are the ones who haven't done it.

I don't know anybody, teacher or not, who thinks their job is cushy. Everybody complains about their work to some extent. Only a very very few go on national TV and cry about having to actually contribute to their retirement and having to pay 50% of the national average for their health insurance*. Walker should just tell all these dopes to go home and stop harshin' his buzz.


*Wasn't Obama supposed to just make that free? WTF?

i'm partial to the big dick bongs, but i don't want to get anybody's sfw panties in a wad.

You mean like this?:

yeah, i'm barely paying attention to what's actually happening in wisconsin. i'm just speaking about teaching generally. there's definitely a difference in my opinion between teaching and being "responsible" for the development of everybody else's kids and most other jobs. and it's been a thankless job subject to public scorn for longer than i've been alive.

that said, i hope i'm getting some credit for your heli trip.

Originally Posted by Jer

You mean like this?:

haha. more or less. though there are some much more realistic looking ones that my redneck friends won't touch no matter how desperate.

Correction from earlier: Walker is no Reagan. Walker is strong in the dark side ..able to draw power from raw emotions like fear, envy, and loathing, but he’s no Reagan. Ronald Reagan once shot down a Russian ICBM with his finger by saying, “Pew! Pew!” That’s where the Star Wars idea came from.

Walker is merely tapping into the dark force set forth a long time ago in a district, far, far away… In a period of civil war when people began to struggle to balance the obligations of holding a job and raising a family in a world of douchebag bosses, dead-end jobs, tight finances, and other forces mostly unhelpful to people in their position ..forces that removed unnecessary stable benefits for losers like job security, pensions and socialist health care.

The dark force is so strong now that dopes would rather see pensions and benefits taken away from their neighbors rather than demand (pffft, as if they had the power to resist) the same for themselves. Walker is merely a pretender to that kind of power!

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Jeeze hey - give the guy a chance! He's only been in office for a month and a half. Remember - it took Obama nearly two years to surrender to Osama bin Laden and force all Navy SEALs to wear women's underwear. Everybody's gotta start somewhere.













...well yeah - except for Reagan. He was begotten, not made.

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Originally Posted by OSECS

i'm not a teacher exactly because i'm not willing to put up with tools like you, osecs, or be responsible for your fucked up idea of parenting. and no, not every job is filled with politics -- the real kind -- you know, legislatures -- defunding, passing unfunded mandates, subverting public schools so their godnut buddies can homeschool everybody to even bigger idiocy. and most 9-5 jobs are not charged with developing today's youth, frequently in the face of inadequate or nonexistent parenting.

i used to think everybody should have to wait tables so they can have a better view of what assholes a lot of people are when you're "serving" them. i think teaching is another one of those. the only people i've met who think teaching is easy or cushy are the ones who haven't done it.

but i digress. osecs, you seem thrilled to repeatedly demonstrate your simpleton's ignorance.

You really are an arrogant ass aren't you ?? I'm sure you hear it a lot so no surprises I'm sure. Where to begin ?

There's politics and bullshit in every work place under the sun. Maybe you're waiting tables and haven't experienced the real world yet.

Teachers can be paid $100K a year and it won't make one damn bit of difference in their teaching ability or the passing rate of their students. You don't go into the teaching profession to get rich. If you can't teach and it's just a job, get out and find another profession. That old adage "those that can't do teach" is bullshit. Very few can teach well. Teaching isn't easy and many aren't able to do it successfully, and need to get the hell out and let the people who have a passion and real skill for it take their place.

Parents are the major reason why kids excel or don't. A good teacher makes kids want to pay attention and achieve, but if parents aren't involved it usually won't matter. Teachers and schools don't have the authority to really deal with trouble students today.


Teaching is a calling in many ways like the military. People don't strike in the military for better wages and they aren't paid as well as most teachers.

As for my fucked up parenting ? Whatever, you make negative comments about everything with no real knowledge, so no shock there. Both our kids went/are going thru public schools, we were involved from day one. We've got two kids accepted/enrolled at top state universities, and one has made the final cut for a possible appointment to the US Air Force academy now. I've been involved in education for 15 years now and have seen the good and bad (mostly good teachers), so I doubt there's little you're gonna school me on the subject.

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Originally Posted by spook

You really are an arrogant ass aren't you ?? I'm sure you hear it a lot so no surprises I'm sure. Where to begin ?

There's politics and bullshit in every work place under the sun. Maybe you're waiting tables and haven't experienced the real world yet.

Teachers can be paid $100K a year and it won't make one damn bit of difference in their teaching ability or the passing rate of their students. You don't go into the teaching profession to get rich. If you can't teach and it's just a job, get out and find another profession. That old adage "those that can't do teach" is bullshit. Very few can teach well. Teaching isn't easy and many aren't able to do it successfully, and need to get the hell out and let the people who have a passion and real skill for it take their place.

Parents are the major reason why kids excel or don't. A good teacher makes kids want to pay attention and achieve, but if parents aren't involved it usually won't matter. Teachers and schools don't have the authority to really deal with trouble students today.


Teaching is a calling in many ways like the military. People don't strike in the military for better wages and they aren't paid as well as most teachers.

As for my fucked up parenting ? Whatever, you make negative comments about everything with no real knowledge, so no shock there. Both our kids went/are going thru public schools, we were involved from day one. We've got two kids accepted/enrolled at top state universities, and one has made the final cut for a possible appointment to the US Air Force academy now. I've been involved in education for 15 years now and have seen the good and bad (mostly good teachers), so I doubt there's little you're gonna school me on the subject.

you take it all so personally. i don't even know if you have kids. i'm talking about the stereotypical asshole parent that teachers have to deal with.

yeah, i think you're an asshole blowing a bunch of bullshit generally, but if you've been called a pompous ass as many times as i have been, how can you possibly take it personally? i laugh almost every time it happens. unless it's somebody much bigger than i am who's drunk and getting in my face, which hasn't happened in a long while. then i try not to giggle. though i have, which actually deterred any future violence because they figured if i was giggling i was going to enjoy what was coming or i had a better plan. plus a true giggle in that situation frequently elicits some kind of sadistic homosexual vibe, which tends to freak out the drunken steroid monsters if you look like you might be able to put up a fight, which i did at one time. in any case, you should try it the next time somebody wants to kick your ass. you never know what's going to happen.

but as i was saying, everybody knows that the most arrogant people are the most insecure and ego based people. terrified of the indefinite life, having to be heard all the time. that said, i quit waiting tables many years ago for the exact same reason i didn't become a teacher. i have to limit my interactions with other assholes because i can't take it. i'm not a bell tower type or anything, but i do have a limit. i think it's healthy to protect yourself and those around you from your limits.

still, equating typical office bullshit and politics with what public school teaching entails is a little ridiculous in my opinion. teaching has the bullshit and politics you're talking about, plus at least two other levels of it between parents and legislatures.

in any case, i hope my ramble measured up to your ramble. i gave it my best shot. i didn't mean any of it. i got my ass kicked when i giggled.

Nice blog man. ^^^^^^ definitely entertaining and funny.

Originally Posted by spook

i'm not a bell tower type or anything,

Actually, bell towers and the like are horrible places to set up a hide. It's obvious where the shots are coming from.


...and I'd much rather go up against a drunk himbo than a sober one.



Apparently, Lady Gaga has just HALO dropped onto State St. wearing nothing but a rhinoceros placenta. The Battle for Madison has just jumped the shark. Freezing rain turning to a blizzard tomorrow should extiguish the Flame of Freedom for good.

Originally Posted by Jer

Actually, bell towers and the like are horrible places to set up a hide. It's obvious where the shots are coming from.


...and I'd much rather go up against a drunk himbo than a sober one.

yeah, but how many bell tower types ever intend to come down when they're done? no way out. make their statement and then make their statement. and sure, i'd rather face a drunk if i'm forced into something. and it just so happens that the days when people wanted to kick my ass most often were the days when i was regularly around drunks. i'm nearly lovable to sober folk.

Can you two just fuck and get it over with?

State employee unions are willing to accept the benefit concessions that will reduce pay by over 8%.

http://www.thewheelerreport.com/rele...llerletter.pdf

http://www.thewheelerreport.com/rele.../0218lassa.pdf

Originally Posted by ilikecandy

Can you two just fuck and get it over with?

They're tangoing for OSECS

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

They're tangoing for OSECS

once the tension's gone, the magic's gone. artists don't fuck with that shit.

In my opinion the state senators who walked out ARE doing their jobs. Their job is to represent the people of their district, not simply to sit there and take it like a bitch. Their constituency elected them to represent the people of their district. People are losing track of the fact that elected representatives are supposed to "represent", not just do whatever they please. These politicians feel that this bill isn't right, they see that their constituents aren't happy with it, and they did what they had to do to prevent it from becoming a law. They are taking a big risk doing this, and could face serious repercussions for walking out and refusing to appear, hell they could probably all lose their jobs if this goes on long enough and they are certainly all facing censure (however stupid that whole thing is). But they knew all that and they did it anyway. That takes balls if you ask me, and we don't usually see balls on politicians. I see nothing cowardly about fucking off to Illinois to fight the passage of this bill. A coward would have sat there, voted no, and had shitty legislation shoved down his throat without putting up a fight.

The bill will probably pass eventually, but I have to give respect to those guys for actually putting up a fight and making this a national issue. Even when the bill passes in Wisconsin, the whole nation is now talking about this and when the similar bills take off in Ohio and other places, more and more people will be getting involved and making their voices heard and it will be harder and harder to push these bills through.

On a side note, the bill coming through in Ohio is set to remove collective bargaining rights from all public employees, including police, fire, and state highway patrol. That means an even bigger uproar than in Wisconsin is brewing. And if the state reps and senators go AWOL here too, good luck convincing the State Highway Patrol to go pick them up and take them to a vote that will kill their own union.

Perhaps we can at least all agree that firefighters and officers of the law are grossly underpaid for the level of risk they face in their jobs? Maybe that is wishful thinking..

Originally Posted by spook

once the tension's gone, the magic's gone. artists don't fuck with that shit.

this is the original 2 creepers dancing for a hooker version

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

this is the original 2 creepers dancing for a hooker version

creepers got art, too.

Originally Posted by OUgetsdumb

Perhaps we can at least all agree that firefighters and officers of the law are grossly underpaid for the level of risk they face in their jobs?

No. You watch way too much TV. I suppose it's very dependant on the area, but most LEOs and firefighters I know are at least 50lbs overweight and every bit as lazy as...say...roofing contractors I know. And those roofing guys could always slip and fall - maybe they should get combat pay too. Just like teachers, there are those who more than earn their pay and put up with tremendous bullshit and risk but the old myth that being a teacher/cop/fireman automatically makes you a hero is bullshit. Hell - just ask any of the libdouches here - they'll tell ya that cops are powermad racist jerks. Well, until the libdouches actually need the cops. Then the police are great. Kinda like how they feel about the democratic process.

One other thing - anybody notice how the "protesters" in Madison are all angry white people?


Old too. Put them in a NASCAR shirt with a Gadsen flag in their hand and you couldn't tell the difference between them and the Teabaggers.

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

They're tangoing for OSECS

Jealousy is an ugly trait Hugh.

Hey - as long as we're talkin' Wisconsin - any Green Bay/Valley/Manitowoc/Trivers mags wanna meet up @ mighty Hidden Valley this afternoon?

The blizzard track has moved a bit south - only 4"-8" predicted for me, but just south of Green Bay is supposed to get socked.

Hidden Valley is where I done learned how to ski - one rope tow, one double chair and I think a whole 200 feet of vert. But way over on the east side there's probably enough pitch to turn in a foot of powder. I plan on getting there around 1 pm. I gaurantee you I will be the only guy with Praxis Powders, grease stained chartreuse pants, red jacket, long hair and a beard.

Sure the place is lame unless you're a 10 year old, but it beats typing to you dopes all day. Plus - I haven't been there in about three decades.

See you there!

My solution is to issue live ammo to the National Guard and use that union scum for target practice. Then, take the bodies and dig mass graves in front of every school. They will think twice before whining again.