Thread: War Zone Wisconsin

What do you think this little issue in WI. is all about?

Taking way the right to unionize and reducing the support of the current POTUS by union members, plain and simple. This is all about 2012 and has little to do with budgets or jobs.

In case you missed it, the WI Unions acceded to demands for wage and benefit reductions last night as long as they kept their rights to collective bargaining. Gov. Walker refused to compromise. So much for your theories.

What bill has the new Repub house passed through for Obamas signature?

My question as well retard, glad we agree.

which of you morons would like to guess who wrote this?

[M]eticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government.

All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.


Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees.



Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of pubic employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable.

Originally Posted by Grange

I really don't care to convince anyone here that the protests and the Democratic State Senators' actions are the right thing to do. If you don't like what I wrote I don't care, but it is accurate.

OK - once again - if you don't care to convince anyone here of the validity of your point of view, then why do you waste your time composing long-winded essays supporting your point of view? You make about as much sense as the "protesters" in Madison and the sanators who ran away to Illinois. This bill is going to pass. They want some kind of compromise, but they don't understand that they have absolutely nothing to bargain with. It's like they dull the pain of the gunshot in their right foot by shooting their left foot. There is reality and then there is what's going on down in Madison. Frankly, I hope this goes on for at least another week. Delusional libsheep are mega-funny. It's like a real world version of PolyAssHat. I can't wait 'til Lady Gaga shows up.

Anybody else notice Darth Walker's stoner eyes? Dude looks like he just got done doing bong hits.

Originally Posted by surrender_monkey

which of you morons would like to guess who wrote this?

[M]eticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government.

All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.


Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees.



Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of pubic employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable.

Who is FDR?

A+

and he was very far left
where does that put obama?
read stanley kurtz to find out

Originally Posted by surrender_monkey

A+

and he was very far left
where does that put obama?
read stanley kurtz to find out

s_m you are late for your weekly klan meeting...quick, before they eat all of the cupcakes! Don't forget to pick up gaper jon.

This is what teachers should be doing...

1895 8th grade final exam


This is unreal see how far we have gone the other way. Get the schools out of the government and the Unions and see how much better off the children will be.


Subject: FW: 1895 8th grade final exam



Subject: 1895 8th grade final exam



1895 8th grade final exam

Take this test and pass it on to your more literate friends..


What it took to get an 8th grade education in 1895...

Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina , Kansas , USA . It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society
and Library in Salina , and reprinted by the Salina Journal.



8th Grade Final Exam: Salina , KS - 1895

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,''play,' and 'run.'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.


Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. Deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. Wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. For tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000.. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. Coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft.. Long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt


U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton , Bell , Lincoln , Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.


Orthography (Time, one hour)
[Do we even know what this is??]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis-mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane , vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks
and by syllabication.


Geography (Time, one hour)
1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia , Odessa , Denver , Manitoba , Hecla , Yukon , St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall andOrinoco
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each..
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.

Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.

Gives the saying 'he only had an 8th grade education' a whole new meaning, doesn't it?!

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

This is unreal see how far we have gone the other way. Get the schools out of the government and the Unions and see how much better off the children will be.

you're so strong on cause and effect. i'm impressed.

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

This is what teachers should be doing...

1895 8th grade final exam


This is unreal see how far we have gone the other way. Get the schools out of the government and the Unions and see how much better off the children will be.


Subject: FW: 1895 8th grade final exam



Subject: 1895 8th grade final exam



1895 8th grade final exam

Take this test and pass it on to your more literate friends..


What it took to get an 8th grade education in 1895...

Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina , Kansas , USA . It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society
and Library in Salina , and reprinted by the Salina Journal.



8th Grade Final Exam: Salina , KS - 1895

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,''play,' and 'run.'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.


Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. Deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. Wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. For tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000.. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. Coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft.. Long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt


U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton , Bell , Lincoln , Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.


Orthography (Time, one hour)
[Do we even know what this is??]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis-mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane , vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks
and by syllabication.


Geography (Time, one hour)
1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia , Odessa , Denver , Manitoba , Hecla , Yukon , St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall andOrinoco
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each..
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.

Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.

Gives the saying 'he only had an 8th grade education' a whole new meaning, doesn't it?!

Nope: http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.asp

Originally Posted by jon gaper

imagine a "profession" so unskilled that your mom can do it better at home with no training.

Good luck with that.

More funneh from WI:

-Dumbass runaway Sen. Jon Erpenbach said Friday that the group was prepared to be away for weeks, although he would like the standoff to end as soon as possible.

"That really, truly is up to the governor," he told The Associated Press in an interview Friday at a downtown Chicago hotel. "It's his responsibility to bring the state together. The state is not unified. It is totally torn part."

Ummmmm...no, dumbass. It's your responsibility to stop playing hooky and go back and do your job. Maybe you missed it a few months back when the Dems got their asses kicked. Most of this state is unified in the opinion that you are a jackass.

-Raving libdope on a local radio show: "IF SO MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH WALKER THEN WHY AREN'T THEY HERE COUNTER PROTESTING?!?!"

They're not there because:
1) They have JOBS. They can't just call in "sick" and drive to Madison to yell like an idiot for days on end. If they did that they would get fired. It's called The Real World.
2) They have nothing to protest. This bill is going through. They can laugh at you over the television/radio/internet - why drive down there and do it in person?

-Bull-dyke libdope talkshow host Rachel Madcow says Wisconsin is on track to have a budget surplus this year.

I think the only reason a complete lie broacast over a major "news" network hasn't gained a whole lot of attention is because 12 people tune in to her show.


Check it out:


"Duuuude - I'm SO STONED right now!!!!"

[QUOTE=Grape_Ape;3187285]s_m you are late for your weekly klan meeting...quick, before they eat all of the cupcakes! Don't forget to pick up gaper jon.[/QUOTe


for a weak metrosexual whose wife keeps the cash ,you seem to be the only one bringing up race with your mythical friends covering your ass

its really about the union


Imagine for a moment that you are a public school teacher in Wisconsin. While your job is undoubtedly tough (and important), and you're by no means rich, you do make decent money (more than $52,000 per year), and you do have some nice extra perks that most of us don't enjoy. You work about nine months per year, you have ample additional time off for holidays, and you basically can't be fired. Sure, you can get fired for extreme misbehavior—after months and perhaps years of due process—but do you face the specter of the axe falling based on quarterly results or the loss of a client? Certainly not.

And you have your pension and health plan. Ahh, let us sing the sweet glories of your pension and health plan! Saps like me just have a 401k, and if I don't contribute to it, I don't have retirement benefits. But you? Your plan is extremely generous (how generous? Go and do a calculation), and you can even retire, with benefits, at age 55. As for your health plan, check it out. Add those benefits to your salary, and you're looking at an average total salary of more than $77,000 per year, making your individual compensation roughly 50 percent greater than the median household income in the state.

[QUOTE=surrender_monkey;3187437]

Originally Posted by Grape_Ape

Imagine for a moment that you are a public school teacher in Wisconsin. While your job is undoubtedly tough (and important), and you're by no means rich, you do make decent money (more than $52,000 per year), and you do have some nice extra perks that most of us don't enjoy. You work about nine months per year, you have ample additional time off for holidays, and you basically can't be fired. Sure, you can get fired for extreme misbehavior—after months and perhaps years of due process—but do you face the specter of the axe falling based on quarterly results or the loss of a client? Certainly not.

And you have your pension and health plan. Ahh, let us sing the sweet glories of your pension and health plan! Saps like me just have a 401k, and if I don't contribute to it, I don't have retirement benefits. But you? Your plan is extremely generous (how generous? Go and do a calculation), and you can even retire, with benefits, at age 55. As for your health plan, check it out. Add those benefits to your salary, and you're looking at an average total salary of more than $77,000 per year, making your individual compensation roughly 50 percent greater than the median household income in the state.

boy that sounds great! it sounds like a dream job that lots of really qualified people would want (well, except for the endless hours of work before and after everybody else's 9-5 shift, the neverending bullshit from parents, the politics that essentially destroy any opportunity of doing what you're trying to do, listening to dumbshits like you, etc.). have you checked the dropout rate of new public school teachers recently?

My brother-in-law is a teacher here in WI. He has four kids, two SUVs and lives in a yuppie mansion. He's pissed about this bill, but since he's an honest guy he also admits that he's had it pretty sweet up until now. He wasn't down in Madison screaming like an idiot last week - he was in the classroom doing his job.

Hey - if I had been riding the gravey train ever since graduation and all of the sudden the train pulled into the station at Realzville and I had to get off and join all the other poor slobs I'd probably be upset as well. But I wouldn't be such an immense myopic moron that I'd play hooky, go to Madison, get in front of a camera and whine about how somebody wants to take away my diamond tiara. Especially since there is a really good chance that at the other end of that camera there is some dude who had to take a big paycut (if he's still lucky enough to have a job), is barely holding on to his house and still manages to pay for my lovely diamond tiara with his property taxes.

Oh yeah - the "endless hours" thing is bullshit. The teachers I know complain about the bratty kids, but that'd be like me complaining about dangerous working environments and marks who won't hold still. Kids are brats - always have been, always will be. Nothing's perfect.

Teabagger protest sign. I guess the teachers ARE failing the students. Sister Sarah twatted/emailed teabagger rally in support of Walker. Isn't Todd a union worker?

Originally Posted by Jer

My brother-in-law is a teacher here in WI. He has four kids, two SUVs and lives in a yuppie mansion. He's pissed about this bill, but since he's an honest guy he also admits that he's had it pretty sweet up until now. He wasn't down in Madison screaming like an idiot last week - he was in the classroom doing his job.

Hey - if I had been riding the gravey train ever since graduation and all of the sudden the train pulled into the station at Realzville and I had to get off and join all the other poor slobs I'd probably be upset as well. But I wouldn't be such an immense myopic moron that I'd play hooky, go to Madison, get in front of a camera and whine about how somebody wants to take away my diamond tiara. Especially since there is a really good chance that at the other end of that camera there is some dude who had to take a big paycut (if he's still lucky enough to have a job), is barely holding on to his house and still manages to pay for my lovely diamond tiara with his property taxes.

public school teaching in wisconsin must be an infinitely better job than it is in oregon. i know dozens of teachers now and have known a lot more than that during my lifetime and i've never met a single one who lived in anything remotely close to a yuppie mansion.

edit: don't know where else to put it, but nbc's coverage of the world alpine skiing championship sucks ass. seriously. why bother.

Originally Posted by Moeghoul

Teabagger protest sign. I guess the teachers ARE failing the students. Sister Sarah twatted/emailed teabagger rally in support of Walker. Isn't Todd a union worker?

In the grammatically challenged teabagger's defense - at least when they protest they don't call in "sick" for work, shut down their school district and cost the taxpayers further $$ to cover their sorry asses.

Mogul - I know the Liberal Textbook demands that you show your support, but your side lost. Palin refences and posting a photo of a misspelled sign isn't going to stop this bill.


I wonder if Walker uses one of those vaporizer things...




Spook - I don't know about Oregun, but teachers here in WI do have it pretty cushy. Another teacher I know (raving Obamazombie) has two kids, boat, wife stays home. Another summers in France and is actually retiring this summer, living in France (with her frog husband - really cool guy actually) 10-11 months out of the year, but keeping her house here for the month or so when she comes back (she doesn't give a flying fuck about this whole mess in Madison). I know yet another teacher who lives pretty modestly in a pre-fab house with her two kids and husband, but that's about as close to the stereotypical saintly, impoverished public servant that I've ever seen.

Originally Posted by Jer

In the grammatically challenged teabagger's defense - at least when they protest they don't call in "sick" for work, shut down their school district and cost the taxpayers further $$ to cover their sorry asses.

Mogul - I know the Liberal Textbook demands that you show your support, but your side lost. Palin refences and posting a photo of a misspelled sign isn't going to stop this bill.


I wonder if Walker uses one of those vaporizer things...

I don't have any skin in this game. I'm more interested in the entertainment value and how far this spreads. Flinging turds from both sides of the polyass spectrum is demanded by the Trolling textbook.

Originally Posted by Moeghoul

I don't have any skin in this game. I'm more interested in the entertainment value and how far this spreads. Flinging turds from both sides of the polyass spectrum is demanded by the Trolling textbook.

True, but my turds are smelly, mushy and disgusting. You're flinging novelty store rubber.

[QUOTE=spook;3187446]

Originally Posted by surrender_monkey

boy that sounds great! it sounds like a dream job that lots of really qualified people would want (well, except for the endless hours of work before and after everybody else's 9-5 shift, the neverending bullshit from parents, the politics that essentially destroy any opportunity of doing what you're trying to do, listening to dumbshits like you, etc.). have you checked the dropout rate of new public school teachers recently?

Oh you're breakin' my heart. I don't know of a single salaried position that doesn't have shit/politics/idiots to put up with, and is always is more than a 9-5 gig. If you don't like it quit. Find another job. Quit bellyaching about the shit you have o put up with, that if you just did the most rudimentary of investigations would have discovered is all part of the job. They can always lick their wounds during there 2.5 month paid summer holiday (sounds very Euro to me).

...and another thing: I don't know what it's like New York or Delaware or wharever, but here in WI it seems like there are bi-weekly reports of teachers molesting students. It's like a public-sector version of the Catholic Church. You'd think these kinds of creeps would be "S"ing the "FU" and keeping as low a profile as possible instead of playing ditch-day and screaming about how they're not gonna be able to afford the ultra-delux detailing package on their new Yukon on national TV.

I'll bet Walker uses an 4 station hookah.... or maybe one of those multi-chambered glass bongs that changes colours.

Originally Posted by Grape_Ape

s_m you are late for your weekly klan meeting...quick, before they eat all of the cupcakes! Don't forget to pick up gaper jon.

The last refuge of a liberal

The only hope for liberals is to play the race card.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082605233.html

Originally Posted by Tippster

Nope: http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.asp

Did you read the snopes article, or just the 'false' part. It never addresses the authenticity of the exam, instead it offers an opinion on whether that exam illustrates that education in 1895 was superior to education today, and even that, indirectly.

Snopes should stick to fact checking rather than opinion policing.

I could totally see Walker in something like this:



Does no one else wish to discuss how Walker looks like he's baked 24/7?

Originally Posted by Jer

I could totally see Walker in something like this:



Does no one else wish to discuss how Walker looks like he's baked 24/7?

Big whoop, blowing weed. Who doesn't anymore ??

[QUOTE=OSECS;3187502]

Originally Posted by spook

Oh you're breakin' my heart. I don't know of a single salaried position that doesn't have shit/politics/idiots to put up with, and is always is more than a 9-5 gig. If you don't like it quit. Find another job. Quit bellyaching about the shit you have o put up with, that if you just did the most rudimentary of investigations would have discovered is all part of the job. They can always lick their wounds during there 2.5 month paid summer holiday (sounds very Euro to me).

i'm not a teacher exactly because i'm not willing to put up with tools like you, osecs, or be responsible for your fucked up idea of parenting. and no, not every job is filled with politics -- the real kind -- you know, legislatures -- defunding, passing unfunded mandates, subverting public schools so their godnut buddies can homeschool everybody to even bigger idiocy. and most 9-5 jobs are not charged with developing today's youth, frequently in the face of inadequate or nonexistent parenting.

i used to think everybody should have to wait tables so they can have a better view of what assholes a lot of people are when you're "serving" them. i think teaching is another one of those. the only people i've met who think teaching is easy or cushy are the ones who haven't done it.

but i digress. osecs, you seem thrilled to repeatedly demonstrate your simpleton's ignorance.