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Thread: Scarpa T2 screws backing out
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01-05-2011, 09:51 AM #1
Scarpa T2 screws backing out
At the beginning of the season I bought a new pair of Scarpa T2's (the green ones). Within a couple of days the ankle pivot screw on one boot had backed out (lost on the slope). It's the inside screw that holds the wire bail on. Fortunately, the ratcheting buckle prevents the loss of the strap itself. I had a local ski shop do a temporary repair and ordered a replacement screw. The next day the same screw on the other boot backed out and was lost. The boots had never been disassembled or modified in any way - just like they came from the factory.
Why are the screws backing out?
Even the temporary repairs with medium strength Loctite do not stay put for more than one ski day.
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01-06-2011, 12:07 AM #2
I can't believe no one else is experiencing this issue.
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01-06-2011, 11:48 AM #3
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This is a recognized problem with (last year's?) T2 Eco.
Your trusted local should should have a replacement t-nut and plastic thingie; make sure they (or you) use some Loctite on the threads.
And make sure to do the other boot too!
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01-07-2011, 05:40 PM #4
Yes, already used lot's of Loctite (medium strength as supplied by Scarpa) but they still don't last a day of skiing. What did they do with the new model to fix the issue?
I had to have the small ski shop near the mountain (that don't even stock new Scarpa's) do the repair. Since I bought them in the city 3 1/2 hours away I have almost $50 in makeshift repairs and parts (they charge me $18 just for the pan head hex screw and little plastic shroud for one boot).
I'll go broke if these keep backing out
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01-07-2011, 08:34 PM #5
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Dude. Just find any Scarpa dealer. They (damn well) should get you parts no charge via warranty. Might not be an on-the-spot fix but they'll be the right parts.
FYI you don't need to use "a lot" of Loctite. Just a bit should do it. Also, with the fitting that Scarpa provides there is a 6mm hex slot INSIDE as well as outside the boot, when installed. I've fixed several dozen for customers with no probs.
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01-07-2011, 09:21 PM #6
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If its a known issue you wana check your boots for loose fasteners every day ,I do a fastner check on my skis and boots every couple of weeks or so but most people don't do that ... they wait for shit to break or fall off
I had some screws in the walk mechansim on my garmont xena's keep backing out ...I put a litttle slow set epoxy under the screw heads and they have been good since
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01-08-2011, 01:33 AM #7
Actually, after I lost the first bolt on the first or second day I skied the boots I did start checking them at the beginning of every day. Problem is, they don't make it through the day (not even once).
I'll try that if the latest "fix" doesn't work. I have most recently applied synthetic grease on the surfaces that the inner nut runs on against the boot shell (but have not had the opportunity to ski them. I think this might work finally because I noticed the boot is molded to accept a square "nut" inside the shell but Scarpa used a round "nut". I assume this was done to allow the inner nut to turn against the shell when flexed (instead of unscrewing the assembly).I had some screws in the walk mechansim on my garmont xena's keep backing out ...I put a litttle slow set epoxy under the screw heads and they have been good since
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01-08-2011, 01:45 AM #8
Yes, problem is, it's not really practical to drive 360 miles every day I ski to pick up a new screw. So I go to the local small shop (who is apparently a Scarpa dealer without any inventory). That is not the shop I bought the boots at so they charge me.
I used just "a bit" of Loctite the first 4 repairs and that didn't work. The most recent repair I coated the entire over-lapping threaded portions which should provide about twice the locking power compared to when I just used "a bit" of Loctite.FYI you don't need to use "a lot" of Loctite. Just a bit should do it.
Thanks for the tip - the bootfitter where I bought the boots did not even seem to be aware of that - he commented on how there is no easy way to grip the inner portion in order to tighten it. And the ski tech at the small shop (who is apparently a Scarpa dealer) was similarly unaware of that fact - he used a screwdriver levered against the face of the inner fitting to hold it from turning while torquing.Also, with the fitting that Scarpa provides there is a 6mm hex slot INSIDE as well as outside the boot, when installed. I've fixed several dozen for customers with no probs.
I have been using needle nose vice grips to grip the outer flange.
Still, it amazes me they didn't come from the factory properly assembled either - neither the left or the right boot made it two days.
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01-13-2011, 11:26 PM #9
Update: The latest fix has held for two ski days. I used more Loctite and applied synthetic grease where the inner fitting contacts the shell. Not sure what did the trick but am just happy the dang screws can make it through a couple of days without falling out on the mountain somewhere.












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