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12-18-2010, 09:15 PM #1
Bluehouse Monarch Wondering, Ideas?
So my old man bought some bluehouse Monarch's, first rockered ski ever, and first new ski in a long time. Took them in to get mounted, base structure, edges (.5,2); edges were detuned to right about where the rocker/side-cut come into contact with snow.
He went out to ski them and said the things just wouldn't track or run stably at all, the only way to control them was to put them on edge, but any time you let it run they would wonder and were impossible to control.
Im trying to think what some problems could be, bases look very flat, are the edges detuned too far/not sharpe far enough? Something else?
He also said that it took a lot of effort to turn them but I wonder if thats more a result of the little side cut, combined with no camber, and a good amount of rocker. But if you guys have ideas here as well opinions and thoughts would be great.
On a plus side the graphics seem to be bluehouses best effort, the finish on this skis looks great (but topsheets seem to have the same duribility issues as before).
Thanks for your help.
Last edited by CDubz; 12-18-2010 at 09:30 PM.
12-18-2010, 09:21 PM #2
I'd guess it's a combo of a first non-cambered ski + rocker. Takes a bit of getting used to. Once you do it's fun as hell though.
12-19-2010, 12:11 AM #3
maybe its because that ski is not made for the type of sick park jibbing your dad is into.
12-19-2010, 10:41 AM #4Registered User
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12-19-2010, 02:50 PM #5
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12-21-2010, 08:07 PM #6
Really best way to figure out what they feel like is probably to get a few runs on them since most of this is based on me trying to interpret how he perceives the problem.
Again I probably should take a few laps on them and see if they ski similar to other rockered skis I've been on (Maestros, JJ, S7, ARG,etc.), although I've never skied a rocker ski thats this narrow, could that be part of it?
I think he was hoping for a good resort ski for colorado, decent in pow but could ski open bowls to trees to bump runs and groomers on the way back to the lift when the snow isnt uber deep.
Thanks everyone for your help so far.
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12-21-2010, 10:35 PM #8
bases should be flat, the shop really worked them over because i dont think they were anywhere close to flat coming for the manufacturer, but taking a true bar to them to double check isn't a bad idea.
other than that maybe we just need to be more aggressive with detuning the skis and run a gumi stone down a little further and if that helps break out a file, although at that point im not sure i trust myself.
thanks for your help, hoping we can get this ironed out so he can really enjoy the advantages of a rcokered ski.
12-22-2010, 12:17 AM #9
Have you checked the mount point against BOF? Here's how to measure that:
Let me know where they're mounted relative to BOF.
Since rockered skis have a short running length, they are even more sensitive to mounting point than a traditional ski. I definitely found this to be true with my LL2s: the "all-mountain" mounting point was too far back, and caused people all sorts of problems until they moved their bindings forward.
01-27-2011, 07:05 PM #10
Bumping this thread to see if anyone's been on these yet. Thoughts, comments, feedback? Anyone ride these skis...what do you think. Pics of the camber/rocker?
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01-28-2011, 02:13 AM #11
I've skied them a couple days on hardpack, crust, and corn/slush. I like the rocker profile and the width, but wish they had less sidecut. More when I've got deeper impressions.
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