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11-24-2010, 01:22 PM #1
MFD All time Touring bindings? Any Beta?
Hey guys, I just saw the link on the front page advertising the MFD Alltime touring system. It looks like a very good touring option and I was wondering if anyone had any info on them like release date, price etc... Has the potential to be a game changer from the looks of it, like a trekker that doesn't suck and goes under your bindings.
Here's the link for those of you who didn't see it:
11-24-2010, 01:27 PM #2
looks pretty coolI've got the key to the highway... I'm gonna leave here runnin', walkin's far too slow
11-24-2010, 01:38 PM #3Registered User
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I'd be very interested in this too if it isn't too expensive. I can't imagine it'll be available super soon though considering there's pretty much nothing on their website
11-24-2010, 02:01 PM #4
Personally, i don't see it gaining much market that the duke doesn't already have or is soon to capture. I doubt theres much, if any weight savings over the Dukes, doubt the touring performance will be even equal, and well, the duke's downhill/alpine performance is just fine.
11-24-2010, 02:06 PM #5
I think this came into our shop for torque testing a couple times last year.
I dont understand why you wouldnt just use the duke I guess. There is no way this is lighter, and I have a hard time believing it would tour any better.
11-24-2010, 02:09 PM #6
11-24-2010, 02:20 PM #7
it will be lower to the ski than Dukes and you can then tour on whatever binding you want.
11-24-2010, 02:33 PM #8
11-24-2010, 03:13 PM #9I've got the key to the highway... I'm gonna leave here runnin', walkin's far too slow
11-24-2010, 03:14 PM #10
I'm curious how the pivots will hold up on a design like the MFD.
On the Duke, the pivots (on the toepiece end of the binding) only see a side load when touring. When switched into downhill mode, the binding plate locks together with the baseplates and is pretty rigid laterally -- and I don't think the pivots bear any of the lateral load.
The MFD is more like a Fritschi, where the pivots see a side load when touring and when latched down into downhill mode. If those pivots are strong enough, shouldn't be a problem.
11-24-2010, 03:30 PM #11
They need to make the front pivot similar to Naxos design. Then we would have a winner.Best Skier on the Mountain
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11-24-2010, 03:49 PM #12
11-24-2010, 07:08 PM #13Registered User
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Perhaps think of it not as a better AT binding but as a really CHEAP way to tour ,if this binding worked better than trekkers and could be sold @150$ ,this looks like THE cheapest way for some dirt bag who can only afford 1 alpine setup to go touring
even if you had complete setups in AT & alpine could you see buying one if it allowed you to tour your alpine setup for 150$ ?
Dynafit has the pivot very far back for better touring , fritschi is moving the pivot back on their bindings , the pivot on this desgn does seems very far forward compared to where AT bindings are going ?
does this plate have any adapter plate type capabilities ?
11-24-2010, 07:13 PM #14
Not sure if people watched the vid..
11-24-2010, 07:27 PM #15
el kanone invented this in the 90's
11-24-2010, 07:32 PM #16
1. looks good if you're stomping massive cliffs on each run.
2. better be prepared for huge slogs if you're touring in an alpine boot, alpine bindings, and that mod. AKA it's going to be heavy and suck to skin on.
3. Pivot point is probably way forward.
4. the dudebros (sage) who are using these are probably being heli dropped in some zone and using the bindings to venture into the final zone AKA no long approach. (that's my guess at least. honestly, who would choose as setup like this system for logging real bc miles?)
5. hey bud, in case i didn't mention it before, how do you like touring in your alpine boots?
6. Hoji stomps on Dynafits.TRs, photos, videos, and building skis (2 pairs so far...):
11-24-2010, 07:37 PM #17if this binding worked better than trekkers
11-24-2010, 08:21 PM #18
I wonder if that plate is going to have snow build up issues under it...Life is a lot like climbing: there isn't anything much more comforting than a good #2.
11-24-2010, 08:55 PM #19Registered User
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There are lots of broke ski bums around here trying to make it till spring by skiing instead of working who would go for a cheap option that would get them out in the side country so you are going to tell them to forget it till they can afford the proper boots/dynafits/new skis?
hoji sounds like he has too much money to buy these
edit: the brownies have worn off a bit and now the thot comes to me ,how about if the plate had multiple mounting holes which would mean we wouldnt have to read all those fucking "where should I mount this ski ? " questions because buddy could just move his bindings around till he like's them ?
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11-24-2010, 10:26 PM #20Registered User
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The pivot looks real high. I wonder how that feels?
I'm not saying that I'll be an early adopter, but their does seem to be interest in a product like this if it's well executed, and and at a good price.
Also, I think their was a thread in the spring about these that had more info, speculation, and mudslinging.BEWARE OF FEMALE SPIES
11-24-2010, 10:38 PM #21
hah, nice to see Prigge still living the dream.
looks like a decent solution to the downhill oriented backcountry problem."They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
11-24-2010, 10:50 PM #22
My only questions are about the bomberness of the release to touring mode and being 100% guaranteed of having no insta tele, I mean it looks similar to naxo/freerides in that respect, and also, will being down inside that channel make pivot heelpeices not release right?
Looks sick though, real sick, I dont REALLY trust dukes, although they are the best on the market currently.__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________
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11-25-2010, 12:01 AM #23
Also wonder how they compare slop and instant-tele wise with respect to the Fritschi designs, because the concept seems very similar and the hinge at the front doesn't seem that bomber (only main difference seems to be the lever which is attached at the binding instead of the ski)? Anybody knows if they did any back-to-back testing?
11-25-2010, 12:41 AM #24
I remember seeing a few posts on this last season. Great to see guys getting on this and pushing equipment forward!
I can't for the life of me see how its possible to mount the heel piece in enough different places such that it can accommodate the full range of BSL. That proto sure looks like it was custom made just for the boot (notice that there is a tiny cutout for the brakes - its in just the right place).
I think this is a much better solution than trekkers, and probably on-par with dukes.
I see some great possibilities if you could put a set of these on a few pairs of skis and swap bindings from plate to plate.DynaDuke, SollyFit, DynaLook, Inserts, and Tools
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11-25-2010, 12:45 AM #25
If this is done right, you should be able to buy a 2nd ski kit for it. Just the rear post and the front pivot mount. Then you can easily swap bindings between skis. That would be fucking huge. Then we just need an alpine binding that accepts AT boot soles better.
If Fin at Bomber designed this thing, it would be amazingly adjustable and super slick (and probably cost $289). He'd build in adjustable pivot point, 2nd ski kits, ability to move binding fore/aft w/in the gizmo, plus the whole thing would assemble/disassemble with a 5mm allen wrench. And it would be Bomber.**
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