Thread: Line Prophet 115 - my review

100's are some of the best skis I've ridden, my only gripe is that the tips often hook badly in heavy snow because of the intense amount of sidecut but they make up for that on groomers. I prefer riding groomers on Prophet 100's than on my GS skis

Originally Posted by Blurred

Well, get back here after skiing them and tel everyone else what y'all think!

I have two days on my 115s and I’m very satisfied with my purchase. I was looking for a quiver of one and I think I found it; I’m heading to Utah for New Years and will only bring one pair of skis.

Day One: Crystal Mountain, WA, conditions were boot to knee deep pow on the lee side and dust on a heinous crust on the windward. The 115s were fun in pow (like most skis). More importantly, I was skiing with three friends on S7s and I didn’t feel like I’d brought a knife to a gun fight.

Day Two: Alpental, WA, home to all manner of crusts—rain, wind, melt/freeze, and occasionally sun. Sunday’s conditions were wind buff, soft bumps, and the high traffic zones were slick and firm. The 115s felt solid when it was steep and icy, I have Prophet 100s and 130s and the 115s are equal and significantly better than its predecessors with edge hold.

Downsides… the skis are too new for me to say bad things about them, talk to me in April.

Glad to see youre stoked w/ them.

What's your BSL? Sounds like i need to borrow these for a run or two

Some cat who posts here and has an ecommerce site had these discounted last month but now I can't find his thread. Maybe he will read this and PM me or post? Cheapest I can find is $699 at bc.com.

Originally Posted by SeatownSlackey

What's your BSL? Sounds like i need to borrow these for a run or two

325. I think we can work something out.

Originally Posted by Greydon Clark;

More importantly, I was skiing with three friends on S7s and I didn’t feel like I’d brought a knife to a gun fight.

So which do think was the better overall preformer?

Skied these for a few runs at the last demo day at alpine. Its true they rail amazingly well for 115 I thought I was skiing on 100 waisted skis. The only thing I didnt like was the tip flopping about a bit, it didn't affect the skiing and Im sure it would be awesome in the powder.

Nice one. I am totally in love with my Prophet 90's, they are the best ski I've ever owned - I haven't skied the 100 but I am sure that is great as well, but the 90 width is best for everyday Australian conditions.

I am turning my gold buddha Gotamas into touring skis and had been thinking that the Prophet 115 would become my next ski.

Seriously, this guy is right. These skis rip powder, crud, moguls, hard pack, long and short radius turns. Been hitting it hard for 46 years, Vail ski patrol, Aspen Ski School, 5'10", 185lbs. Took back my JJ's on a performance guarantee for these, guaranteed to put a grin on your face every time! Oh and they simply stomp every air every time.

Originally Posted by nickwm21

I heard a rumor that line was discontinuing the Mothership for this reason.

not a rumor. its the truth.

Those of you that have the 115, what is your binding placement...mid-sole, -1 or something else?

anymore comments or opinions on the 115 vs 100 (186) ?

I have both mounted on the line.

regardless of the width of the P100 it is not a pow ski. The 100 is a resort ski that carves better than any ski i know. The 100 has more camber and might be a touch stiffer than the 115. If i still lived in VT I would ski the 100.

the 115 is a better pow ski (obviously). great crud ski too.

I ski the 100 early/late season and days when it hasn't snowed in awhile. otherwise, i'm on the 115.

Originally Posted by mtskier

I have both mounted on the line.

regardless of the width of the P100 it is not a pow ski. The 100 is a resort ski that carves better than any ski i know. The 100 has more camber and might be a touch stiffer than the 115. If i still lived in VT I would ski the 100.

the 115 is a better pow ski (obviously). great crud ski too.

I ski the 100 early/late season and days when it hasn't snowed in awhile. otherwise, i'm on the 115.

can you be more specific about why you feel the 100 is not a pow ski and the 115 is? i am on the 100 now and in the powder with it. it is obviously not like skiing my fp descenders or a any reverse rocker rocker but it seems to hold its own in pow. However, I got the 100s used and there is not much camber there. they are 2-3 years old.

im just trying to understand how the 115 skis differently. i looked at lines site and it says 25cm of eary rise. so, i can see some float of that for sure. I see the tip height is more than the p100 also , again guessing this help keeps it up and not diving. whats the feel difference in say 10-14" of fresh pow
thanks

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Way less hooky in the tip than the prophet 100. Flatter tail seems to release earlier as well. P115 handles variable conditions way way better than the 100 while still maintaining the super carvy ride. ( still rails the groomers)
I have owned 2 pairs of 100's and currently have the 115's. The ski is a winner.

Originally Posted by jetski

^^^^^^^^^
Way less hooky in the tip than the prophet 100. Flatter tail seems to release earlier as well. P115 handles variable conditions way way better than the 100 while still maintaining the super carvy ride. ( still rails the groomers)
I have owned 2 pairs of 100's and currently have the 115's. The ski is a winner.

thanks
nuf said...sign me up

Originally Posted by jetski

^^^^^^^^^
Way less hooky in the tip than the prophet 100. Flatter tail seems to release earlier as well. P115 handles variable conditions way way better than the 100 while still maintaining the super carvy ride. ( still rails the groomers)
I have owned 2 pairs of 100's and currently have the 115's. The ski is a winner.

Need some advice on whether I should go with the P100 or P115. Ski Utah, want something All Mtn but emphasis on handling Pow. Int>Adv skier. 6'0", 165 lbs. Tried Atomic Access (100 waist) loved them but can't find them; had horrible experience with Moment Bibby Pro (118 waist), very heavy, sluggish and crappy edge hold. My next move was going to be the P100 and then I read this thread and I'm starting to question my decision.

Thanks.

as i posted a while back, i picked up a pair of P115s. after ~10 days on them, here is my "dear diary" review as well as a POV video on a mix of hard pack to 6" of light pow….

skiing background: i am 5'9" 145 lbs. (about 20 lbs lighter than my college racing days 20 years ago when i was 60-70 FIS point racer). the last 4-5 years i have been primarily skiing and coaching telemark, but this year i have been primarily skiing and coaching alpine ski racing. for the last 7-8 years i have averaged 45-75 days/season.

ski setup: i mounted them up fixed heel with a pair of Salomon 16STHs mounted on the line. i went with the 179s for playfulness in the trees, billy goating, etc. i have owned and skied the P90 and P100 in the past. i have also done ski testing for Couloir Magazine in the past, so i have some experience being on a variety of skis.

overall impressions: these are FUN skis. these have been my "everyday" Tahoe ski for the last 2+ weeks of this storm cycle. i have been out in fresh light pow, cut up chop, wind-affected styrofoam, some heavier sierra cement, hard-pack groomers, etc. these skis can do big long turns, fairly short turns and everything in between.

groomers -
i tend to favor GS style turns and like high angles. on groomers…. these things can RAIL like my Volkl GS race skis. the tails are stiff enough so that if you want load them up, they will respond and you shoot across the hill into your next turn. if you want to ski more mellow and simply roll them on edge, these things will hold and let you just cruise… and enjoy the ride. definitely nice, at the end of the day when the legs are running out of juice. i did not take them out on true consistent bullet proof ice, but on ice that i did hit…. these things held fine. torsionally, these skis are stiff and it transfers down to the edges… which wasn't the case with some other wider skis that i have owned in the past, like the Volkl Sumo.

groomers/cut-cup chop -
going from groomers to cut up pow or chop and then back again to groomers…. if you stay centered on the ski and drive them…. they make the transition feel seamless. maybe it might be due to locking my heels down vs telemark, but i could charge right through both conditions without ever feeling like i might get bobbled around.

cut-up chop -
in full cut-up chop, these skis smoothed out the slop. no i won't say it made firm cut-up chop feel like a "groomer", but i definitely could hit this stuff at speed and feel fully balanced. if you end up in the back seat, with the stiffer tails…. the skis could toss you around. so you definitely need to stay somewhat attentive, and especially at higher super-G speeds. in regards to the slight tip rocker... in the cut up chop, the tips did tend to flap a little especially at higher super-G turns and speed. at first it was a little unnerving, but eventually i have gotten used to it. if you stay centered and ski with good technique, totally not an issue. 186 vs 179 length. i would imagine that the 186 would give a more stable ride in this regard at higher speeds.

pow -
the P115s rock. it makes the pow so easy, it is ridiculous. i skied them in anywhere from 6" fresh to 18" fresh…. they killed it. the tip rocker, the 115mm waist, etc…. combines to make a fun pow ski in big open turns and in tight trees. need to scrub speed or butter a pivot turn around a tree… not an issue. just ease up on the throttle, flatten your edge angle, and there you go…. spread the butter.

air -
i am NOT a big air guy. 10-15 feet is about as big as i go. the P115s have more than enough surface area to make landing those drops fun and easy. bigger airs, i don't know…. but i am guessing they would be just fine.

final conclusion: so far, to me they seem to be the perfect Tahoe ski. the 179 length is a fun length for me…. if Squaw (vs Alpine Meadows) were my home mountain, i would probably choose the 186 for gobbling up vert at higher speeds. i was unsure about the sidecut and tend NOT to like skis with wide tails, but it has not been an issue… i had originally thought i was going to have a 3 ski quiver with a racer carver for groomers and ice, something around 90-95mm for all mountain, and the P115s for pow or day after storm skiing etc. at this point and from what i have seen with the P115s…. they will be my quiver of one, with my race skis reserved for coaching days or maching the groomers.





ps. this video was me goofing around with a GoPro camera.... skiing with my wife and kids.

Originally Posted by onehotchili

torsionally, these skis are stiff and it transfers down to the edges… which wasn't the case with some other wider skis that i have owned in the past, like the Volkl Sumo.

i was unsure about the sidecut and tend NOT to like skis with wide tails, but it has not been an issue…

^ good review

one quick question: how would you compare the 115 to the Sumo head-to-head in powder?

obviously, the 115 is constructed differently (early rise, etc) and skis harder snow better, but how does it perform as a dedicated powder ski vs the Sumo?

I would think the straighter cut of the Sumo and the size difference would make them comparable for a dedicated pow-only ski with the nod to the Sumo for powder performance, even though it doesn't have early rise (but is flat as a pancake anyway)

would you have given up the Sumo's for the 115's if the decision was a pow-only ski? and why

I have dibs on a new old stock pair of Sumo's so trying to make a decision about the two and I would only use them for powder days

Fuck. I rode my buddy's pair this weekend and fell in love with this ski. I've been looking for a replacement for my aging Goats for a while and this is it.

Came off the hill yesterday and went to BC.com and of course they are sold out of the 186.....it's out there elsewhere but not at the mag discount. Fuck.

they sound fun

Can you get the Mag discount of a full 20% on Line Skis? Couldn't on Moments . . .

Has anyone inquired if BC will get in more?

Originally Posted by Smails

Can you get the Mag discount of a full 20% on Line Skis? Couldn't on Moments . . .

Has anyone inquired if BC will get in more?

Never got that far unfortunately....

I talked to them and they said that's it for the season. Poop.

Are you guys interested in a maggot discount?

I could run it by a few people at Line if you'd like.

Originally Posted by Blurred

Are you guys interested in a maggot discount?

I could run it by a few people at Line if you'd like.

Id certainly be in for a pair