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Thread: Wasatch Conditions 10-11
10-24-2010, 03:57 PM #1
Wasatch Conditions 10-11
Hey, it's snowing.
Okay, this'll make for a soap-boxy sort of kick-off, but if this a thread you love and/or hate I'd by psyched if you'd share your thoughts.
After having a number of conversations with various OGís in the Wasatch scene it seems everybody has anecdotal evidence that threads like this one change patterns of backcountry use. The general consensus is that guidebooks promote dispersal while threads like this one tempt people to herd together once wordís out that the skinnerís in.
If that's true, is that bad? And if so, why?
And if you agree that crowding in the backcountry is undesireable, do you see a way to share beta about current conditions (plus a healthy does of bluebird faceshot skintrack backflip Stoke) and also promote dispersal?
Moving on, I still think this is what we're aiming for here, though I'm not even a little interested in policing:
Last edited by The Gnarwhale; 10-24-2010 at 05:27 PM.
10-24-2010, 04:01 PM #2
10-24-2010, 10:58 PM #3
I think a good start would be a voluntary ban on the use of the word 'EPIC' in any form.
10-25-2010, 01:34 AM #4
what about epicurean?
or if i'm sporting my olympus, can i mention the TruePic III capabilities?
10-25-2010, 08:14 AM #5
10-25-2010, 08:24 AM #6
Pretty strong dynamics in LCC - as per the 12z NAM soundings and Theta/time height I just looked at. So solid precip rates should continue through much of the day. However....the snow must be fairly wet given the water equiv reported on mesowest compared to snow in 24 hours. Might lighten up as temps drop. Wind very high in the early morning hours but that seems to have backed off. Residual high RH values in the low troposphere and some pockets of enhanced vertical velocity should result in a fews SN showers following the tapering off of the main event.
10-25-2010, 09:41 AM #7
10-25-2010, 10:04 AM #8
me gusta Utah!!
have a great winter!
10-25-2010, 10:11 AM #9
I think the increase in traffic has more to do with the explosion of BC skiing then people poaching the forum for ideas on where to go. ...Even though I'm sure that happens sometimes, I doubt it coulb compete with the fact that every dick, tom and harry on Dukes is getting on it nowadays.
maybe, use less description on route travel and names?
...also, I forbid it to snow before I get out there mid-November.
10-25-2010, 10:12 AM #10
La Nina is muy bien. Te amo.
10-25-2010, 10:34 AM #11Registered User
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I would concur that trip reports lead to followers, and I would bet that areas get more crowded after a recent trip report. I am guilty of it myself from time to time. But I don't think it's as much "hey, X skied there, so it must be safe," as it is simply "oh shit, I haven't skied that area in a while, I should get back over there." In other words, it just reminds people of an area or a run.
(For all the OG's who are making this complaint, what are you doing in an area shortly after a trip report that you happened to know about? Pure coincidence, right?)
But, that doesn't mean people shouldn't post trip reports. They are the most entertaining ski-related thing on TGR. Plus, observations are more useful if you know the exact location.
So here's an idea - if you see a trip report from an area, and you don't like skiing around people, go elsewhere for a week or two. Theoretically, all the people will be concentrated in the area from which the trip report came, freeing up other places.
10-25-2010, 01:47 PM #12Hailstone, UT
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10-25-2010, 04:37 PM #13
People who whine about crowding either.........
1. Lack creative thinking skills and can't think outside the box, or sheep pen to come up with ideas on alternative places to ski.
3. Need to realize it's the Wasatch, and ski touring is constantly on the rise.
4. Need to learn to smile, shut the fuck up, and have a good time while you still have a pulse on this earth.
In the mean time, is there enough snow in PC to skate at Round Valley yet?
This should help keep the sheep in the pen
10-25-2010, 04:46 PM #14
2) Can't get up the hill at first light?
Thanks for thread. I'll be following this one. One more set of tracks.Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each.
Henry David Thoreau
10-25-2010, 04:47 PM #15
10-25-2010, 05:00 PM #16Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each.
Henry David Thoreau
10-25-2010, 05:29 PM #17
trackhead, you already thinking about the pfeiff?
shera, welcome to the cottonwood canyons.
to the op: yeah people read the threads and decide where to go but some of that is due to safety concerns (conditions). gotta take the good with the bad. so far the good outweighs the bad, imo.
10-25-2010, 05:39 PM #18
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10-25-2010, 06:19 PM #20
10-25-2010, 06:23 PM #21Registered User
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10-25-2010, 06:32 PM #23
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10-25-2010, 07:40 PM #25
With this much good terrain so conveniently accessible and so near such a large population base, 'crowds' in the BC are inevitable.
I know that some of the old timers will pine for the good old days when they could head up pole line and have Cardiff to themselves, but for the most part those days are long gone.
There are still plenty of places to find solitude if you are willing to put in the effort. Fortunately, most BC users still aren't. Most of the users on this board already know from the pics where most of the stoke is coming from anyway, even if it isn't stated in the posts.