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08-19-2010, 02:32 PM #1
Help me chose a New FR bike for my wife...
She is on an MKIII with more of a light FR build right now. Busted her shock at Whistler and we rented her a Vixa to ride, and she loved it. Her riding has progressed a lot (at the end of 3rd day she was clearing everything on Crank it up, a big deal for someone who hated riding on dirt 2 summers ago) and I want to reward her with a new bike.
She liked the Vixa a lot.
Also looking at the Syren.
Possibly other 160-170mm travel bikes in xsmall/small as well.
Then this [ame="http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198372"]SX Trail[/ame] caught my eye.
Similiar where important (FSR, TT length, HT angle), but even better in some asepcts (shorter chainstays, lower BB and standover.) Definetely costs less.
I think that the women specific models have a higher leverage ratio to accomodate lower weight folks, would the SX trail be hard to tune to someone weighing only 120lbs in her gear?
How heavy will it be with a reasonable build?
Any other thoughts or suggestions?
Thanks for your input.
I need to get this right, I love riding with her and getting a bike that she enjoys riding is critical to keeping her happy on burly trails.
Edit, fix mispelling in title
08-19-2010, 06:03 PM #2
My wife is petite (5'2") and has tried a few bikes. She fell in love with the SX Trail, and also enjoyed the Transition Syren. She wasn't a fan of the Vixa.
In the end, she's been rocking the SX Trail and hitting everything in Whistler and the North Shore including pedals up Fromme in the granny.
As for tuning, throw an extra soft spring on the Fox 36, and a 250-300 spring on the rear and you're gold.
08-19-2010, 06:39 PM #3
What size SX is she riding? The smallest size still looks pretty big...?
08-19-2010, 07:45 PM #4
What fork is your wife running (specifically 6" or 7"?)
About what weight does her bike clock in at?
Is there two different travel settings?
Thanks, I think I may have just found her birthday present, going to have to sell 2 of my bikes in the spring, but it's worth it.
08-19-2010, 08:06 PM #5
Just checked out the frame for sale in other thread and it is an '07 that has totally different #s and doesn't work as well.
The SX has been added to the list of possible frames now though.
08-19-2010, 10:11 PM #6Registered User
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Mrs powking has told me to say that she has nothing but awesome things to say about her Syren. It fits, it's plush, it's light for it's burliness, it comes with girly stickers. She thought her previous bike was "good enough" until I forced the Syren on her and she loves it.
For reference, she's 5'3", with long legs and rides a medium (they are really small).
Now if only I could stop impregnating her, she could ride the damn thing!
08-20-2010, 12:33 AM #7Registered User
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I've seen the Syren up close and it looks great. Then again I might be somewhat biased having owned a Dirtbag and now a Blindside, myself.
08-20-2010, 05:57 AM #8This not my pee
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My little lady just got a Canfield One and is stoked. Canfield is closing out their smalls for $1250.
08-20-2010, 07:41 AM #9
I've thought about the One, but I'd like something a little more slack head angle with a 36.
I'm interested in the new One for me when it comes out.
08-20-2010, 07:46 AM #10
I might try to give the Canfield Bros a call and check. It is hard to figure out what the geo #s might be when you change the travel. It might work to put a 8.5x2.5 in the shorter travel mode and still get 66 deg head angle?
This has been frustrating because we have a Norco and Transition dealer in the area and neither carries the female FR bikes in the store.
08-20-2010, 07:57 AM #11
I would consider both the Turner RFX, and the Intense Uzzi"My policies are based not on some economics theory, but on things I and millions like me were brought up with: an honest day's work for an honest day's pay; live within your means; put by a nest egg for a rainy day; pay your bills on time; support the police." M. Thatcher (RIP)
Judges smoke it, even the lawyer too...So you've got to legalize it..." Peter Tosh
08-20-2010, 08:00 AM #12
08-20-2010, 08:51 AM #13
Lots of good options out there these days. As a loyal owner of a 2010 Giant ReignX, I gotta chime in. The frame is ridiculosuly light (sub 7 pounds with a DHX Air), 6.7 inches of travel, they have great standover, and they are priced well (Frames less than 1500). They also come in Extra Small and Small, so size wise, you have some options. I put a Lyric 170 air on mine, and it is SLAACCCKKKK. Mini DH bike that I can pedal all day. I love it.
I'd also say that if my friends wouldn't beat me up for it, I'd have really looked into a Syren. I road AG's once and absolutely loved it.
Your lady is going to be one lucky woman though, regardless. Every option mentioned is sweet.Keep it unclipped
08-20-2010, 11:40 AM #14
I haven't read the rest of this thread but there's a Rocky Mountain Slayer SS 396 on Chainlove right now in S and XS for $1400
08-20-2010, 03:16 PM #15
Second Tracks, a consignment store in Salt Lake City, has a really clean extra small Syren for sale.
I thought they told me $2300 on the phone a few minutes ago.Don’t race. Leave that to the scorchers.
08-23-2010, 05:37 PM #16
Rode Fluffy Bunny with Mrs. Monkey the other day and she went 3x OTB. Pretty cool too see her learn that falling off the bike isn't the end of the world and jump back on. She took the falls pretty well but is even more motivated to buy a slacker bike now.
After making a spreadsheet with the Vixa, Syren, SX trail, RFX, Reign X, Uzzi, SS II, and One for comparing the numbers I have narrowed it down.
SS has too slack of a seat angle for any real pedaling, so it's out. Uzzi is $$$$$ and long TT, out. RFX long TT not enough standover, out. Reign X = long TT, out.
Sooo, I'm left with the Vixa, Syren, SX Trail, and One, all very similiar numbers with a couple exceptions.
The numbers on the SX trail look good all around, but it is the most expensive and I have to admit that I just am not a fan of Specalized as a company.
I know she likes the Vixa already, but can't find a frame and don't want to buy a complete. It also has the highest standover and BB of the lot.
Don't have anything bad to say about the Syren, just wish I could get her on one for a demo first.
The One is looking good right now though. Low standover (27"), a lot of travel (7.5"), matches up well with the fork I have for her (36 Float RC2), great price on closeout (comes with a good shock, and the Acros headset with bumpstops), perfect reach (21.3") and it's a great company.
I just talked to Chris on the phone about some numbers, whats available, etc. I've met Lance on the trails, and see a lot of very happy riders on Canfields (mostly Jedis though). I have to admit I've always wanted a Canfield for myself too (next years One looks nice.) Plus this thread over in the women's lounge at MTBR have convinced me.
The only last concern I have is the Chainstay length is a little longer (.5-1" longer at 17.5") than the other three bikes. Does anyone think it is going to matter much? I had thought that a short chainstay would be best too make things a little more maneuverable for her, but the stability of the extra length (and the travel that goes with it) might actually be good for building her confidence at speed. Any thoughts?
Going to go over the numbers (geo and $$) with her tonight.
Hopefully my next thread will be a trigger pulled, and build over the winter (shortly followed by a parts garage sale FS in the spring to help pay for it.)
Whoa, sorry for the long post, just did a lot of thinking out loud at y'all.
08-23-2010, 08:34 PM #17
The short chainstay is one of those things that definitely felt different when I first got on my Syren, but once I got used to it I really like it for maneuverability. I mean no, it's not like a DH bike hauling ass over rough terrain at speed, but I prefer the Syren for most riding. Like - last time I went to Whistler, I brought my El Cuervo and the Syren - the Syren got ridden probably 90% of the time. It's easier to maneuver, easier to loft the front end on and all of that encourages me to be more active on the bike, which = more control = more confidence = more fun.
Though I certainly don't think a Canfield would be a bad option either."Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow, what a Ride!"
08-23-2010, 08:45 PM #18
I just want to add that the Syren that is at 2nd Tracks is really clean. I took it for a test ride just to see if it shifts well, brakes work, no play in the linkages etc. and it was sweet. Was too small for the lady friend when she finally decided, but it is really sweet none-the-less.
Yes IG, it is $2300.
But that Canfield is a nice bike and I really like the way those guys run their company.
08-23-2010, 09:56 PM #19
It's no secret that I love my One. I also can't wait to install my new fork and the Hammerschmidt I got from Conundrum. But I mentioned the Syren at Second Tracks because I also know how much AG loves hers. I don't think there's a bad choice to be made between the One and the Syren.Don’t race. Leave that to the scorchers.
08-26-2010, 12:28 PM #20
After talking to the Mrs. and Chris, went with the One. New shocks coming in today from Fox, Canfield should be shipping soon. I'm as stoked as if this bike was going to be mine. Can't wait to start the build thread this winter.
03-19-2011, 03:09 PM #21
New FR Bike for Wife = DONE!
Did a quick and dirty build to get her on it this fall, but just finished the final build (except maybe new bars and cranks) I'm pretty stoked on it (so is she.) It is the first build I've done that aesthetics were even a consideration. Usually I swap in whatever parts I have on hand from the last frame. Here are the pics...
Not sure about weight, feels light to me. Maybe 30lbs plus or minus a few pounds (more likely plus.) Not a whole lot of room for lightening it up without going way $$$$. Two major parts excepted...
I had trouble finding lighter cranks in 165mm length, 73mm BB, that didn't cost a fortune (XTR,) so I just used some Hussefelts I had and swapped some cheap Ruktion arms to get to 165mm (She was clipping the pedals with 170mm arms and CB 50/50s.) Still looking for something ideal...
Bars are just something I had, she already liked, and I couldn't find anything a whole lot better without spending a ton of money.
Cane Creek might be coming out with a 1 1/8" head tube/steerer compatible Angleset soon so I might also try one of those. Hoping that by slacking the head a degree plus little bit extra stack height from the bearings being located outside the headtube might let the knobs clear the downtube so I can loose the Acros headset with the stops in it.
Overall pretty happy with it. Heading south next week for some sun and her shake-down ride. Thanks for everyones' input on this project.
DRS"Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck" Joss Whedon
03-19-2011, 04:35 PM #22Registered User
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Sweet build!! One thing to note as I know of two folks who have had this happen, the gusset at the tup tube/headtube junction develops cracks and is prone to failure so keep a close eye on that. AS for the angleset that sounds like and awesome idea as the one flaw I saw with that bike other than the fork hitting the downtube is the seemingly steep headtube angle. I bet she will enjoy the hell out of it.
I just got my lady a Slopestyle in a small that we are in the process of building up as her DH bike. Since she is only 95lbs we are gonna go with the Fox Float RLC that I got for her as well. Pair that with a FOX DHX 5.0 air that I picked up that is .25 inches shorter i-to-i we should be able to get it fairly slack and low. I will have to check tire clearance with the new shock but I think it will work and 165mm cranks when I come across some should keep pedal strikes to a minimum. I tell ya what, trying to find a capable longer travel bike for someone who is 4'11'' is tough.
Treahd Jack: If anyone has a 1.5 to taper headset laying around in SLC that they would like to get rid of I need one. I can order one but the pickins are slim right now as QBP seems to have discontinued their build your own Cane Creek headset program.
03-20-2011, 11:20 AM #23
I had heard that most of the headtube problems were from running 180mm forks and riding hard. I don't think my wife could break it, I would actually be kinda proud if she did. I will keep on eye on it though.
Along with the short cranks consider Crampon pedals as well, they get you a bit more clearance."Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck" Joss Whedon